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Aquattro 04-04-2012 03:33 PM

How many fish in a 50?? :)
 
Here's my list so far

sailfin tang
powder blue tang
2 x yellow tang
emporer angel
3 x anthias
3x clown
asst damsel
2x chromis
pesky goby

Ok, a bit overstocked. No skimmer, so what do ya think would be a good water change schedule?

*** This is a temp holding system for 3 weeks

spawn 04-04-2012 03:37 PM

the tang police are coming, I can hear them.

Aquattro 04-04-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spawn (Post 701294)
the tang police are coming, I can hear them.

lol, no doubt!!

Reef Pilot 04-04-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 701292)
pesky goby

Sorry for off the topic question. But why is he "pesky"? Am planning to get a couple of these for my tanks, because of their sand cleaning habits. I don't have sugar sand.

Leah 04-04-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 701292)
Here's my list so far

sailfin tang
powder blue tang
2 x yellow tang
emporer angel
3 x anthias
3x clown
asst damsel
2x chromis
pesky goby

Ok, a bit overstocked. No skimmer, so what do ya think would be a good water change schedule?

*** This is a temp holding system for 3 weeks

Have you any live rock in it or just the few fish? :wink:

Aquattro 04-04-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Leah (Post 701302)
Have you any live rock in it or just the few fish? :wink:

bout 25 or 30 pounds LR, plus a large aquaclear with 2 foam blocks

Aquattro 04-04-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reef Pilot (Post 701299)
Sorry for off the topic question. But why is he "pesky"? Am planning to get a couple of these for my tanks, because of their sand cleaning habits. I don't have sugar sand.

sand spitter, and it took me a month to get it out of the display tnk

subman 04-04-2012 04:21 PM

Hey Brad I think the Tang police have left canreef to make an Emergency arrest...

knock knock knock

rofl.

(I love it need to see pics of this tank!!)

Aquattro 04-04-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by subman (Post 701318)
(I love it need to see pics of this tank!!)

Yup :) I'll take a pic once I add the remaining fish. I think tonight..

subman 04-04-2012 04:28 PM

Epic!!!

ponokareefer 04-04-2012 05:07 PM

I'd recommend at least 25% water changes/week. That is a big bioload.

Aquattro 04-04-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ponokareefer (Post 701346)
I'd recommend at least 25% water changes/week. That is a big bioload.

Ya. I guess I have to buy a new bucket for them, so can probably do at least 50% weekly for a few weeks.

toytech 04-04-2012 05:14 PM

I have a picture in my mind of a bunch of fish all squished against the glass with fins and things sticking out fo the top of the tank .As for whaterchanges i would just regularily test nitrates and do waterchanges acordingly to keep them at a level you deem aceptable .The thing that would worry me with that many fish would be O2 saturation , but you must be running a good skimmer so it should be ok. +1 on a picture , bet it looks awsome.

ponokareefer 04-04-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toytech (Post 701350)
I have a picture in my mind of a bunch of fish all squished against the glass with fins and things sticking out fo the top of the tank .As for whaterchanges i would just regularily test nitrates and do waterchanges acordingly to keep them at a level you deem aceptable .The thing that would worry me with that many fish would be O2 saturation , but you must be running a good skimmer so it should be ok. +1 on a picture , bet it looks awsome.

He states in the opening that he has no skimmer on this tank.

Zoaelite 04-04-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 701292)
Here's my list so far

sailfin tang
powder blue tang
2 x yellow tang
emporer angel
3 x anthias
3x clown
asst damsel
2x chromis
pesky goby

Ok, a bit overstocked. No skimmer, so what do ya think would be a good water change schedule?

*** This is a temp holding system for 3 weeks

Quote:

Originally Posted by toytech (Post 701350)
I have a picture in my mind of a bunch of fish all squished against the glass with fins and things sticking out fo the top of the tank .As for whaterchanges i would just regularily test nitrates and do waterchanges acordingly to keep them at a level you deem aceptable .The thing that would worry me with that many fish would be O2 saturation , but you must be running a good skimmer so it should be ok. +1 on a picture , bet it looks awsome.

Time to pull out Mount Wannahockaloogie and crank open that air valve Brad :lol:.

toytech 04-04-2012 05:54 PM

hmm missed the no skimmer part.

Aquattro 04-04-2012 06:05 PM

I'll add a Tunze stream aimed across the surface for air exchange. If I need to, I can pull out a larger tank or do more water changes. Aggression is a top concern as well.
The plan is to treat all fish in this tank for 3 weeks until I can start re-adding to the main tank again, last week of april

Leah 04-04-2012 06:10 PM

They are making fun of you...don't worry their day will come. It is ah... called "Karma"
As for your problem I would start praying to the fish gods.
And +1 on testing.

Aquattro 04-04-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Leah (Post 701372)
They are making fun of you...don't worry their day will come. It is ah... called "Karma"
As for your problem I would start praying to the fish gods.
And +1 on testing.

I thought it was Carma??

Ya, praying to the FG is good advice :)

Zoaelite 04-04-2012 06:31 PM

K...C... Tomatato Potatataoto

Spelling is my Specaiality :razz:.

25%-50% every week with lots of feeding should keep everyone happy.

Trigs 04-04-2012 06:34 PM

I have a feeling he is yanking our chains....:frusty:

Aquattro 04-04-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trigs (Post 701386)
I have a feeling he is yanking our chains....:frusty:

Me? Nope :) I have a bunch of fish to quarantine and that I need to pick up now, and my display tank is currently waiting 6 weeks to rid it of velvet.

Trigs 04-04-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 701388)
Me? Nope :) I have a bunch of fish to quarantine and that I need to pick up now, and my display tank is currently waiting 6 weeks to rid it of velvet.

:lol:I Say touche sir, touche

subman 04-04-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 701388)
Me? Nope :) I have a bunch of fish to quarantine and that I need to pick up now, and my display tank is currently waiting 6 weeks to rid it of velvet.

oh crap that sucks I didn't know it was not by choice. I thought an upgrade or something...velvet is awful! sorry for making light of it earlier.

Trigs 04-04-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by subman (Post 701400)
oh crap that sucks I didn't know it was not by choice. I thought an upgrade or something...velvet is awful! sorry for making light of it earlier.

I as well thought this was some sort of upgrade until i looked closely! my apologies!

Aquattro 04-04-2012 07:51 PM

no worries, the velvet is a month ago, so just restocking fish so I can treat them all in quarantine before restocking the 180g. Not ideal, but I got a deal on some fish that I couldn't pass on, so I've got to manage them for a few more weeks in the smaller tank.
I forgot, I've got a purple tang coming too, although that one might be able to stay where it is for a few weeks.

Madmak 04-04-2012 11:19 PM

Just love 'em a little, thats really what it boils down to. Overstocked tanks take a bit more work and attention, they are not against any law and I don't really think there are "real" Tang Police.

You've got the right attitude, finding the best way to deal with the situation with what you have available. If you care about fish and care to know about fish, you will do what it takes to keep them happy.

subman 04-04-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmak (Post 701498)
.... I don't really think there are "real" Tang Police.......

Oh they are real and they are watching right now!! That's why I have tinfoil on all my toilets! All pipes lead to the ocean....can't trust Tangs!!!

Madmak 04-04-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by subman (Post 701500)
Oh they are real and they are watching right now!!

Do they have a Mandarin division? Cause if they do I'm screwed!

gregzz4 04-05-2012 12:23 AM

Brad, if you're going to do 50% weekly, maybe you should split it and do bi-weekly changes. That's what I'd do anyway to avoid swings. And I'd probably use stress guard too. And a shorter lighting period may help with aggression.
Are you gonna do a hypo or such?

Reefie 04-05-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spawn (Post 701294)
the tang police are coming, I can hear them.

Brad, you'll be ok, just tell them that you thought the rule of thumb was 1 Tang per Gallon of Water Volume. You're ONLY going to have 5, so you're very safe with 1 Tang per 10 Gallons. :wink:

I think they'll be fine for a few weeks, however I'd suggest 25% WC's every 2-3 days with that kind of bio-load.

The aggression may be the bigger concern in such tight quarters for the Tangs. I'd suggest feeding a bit more Nori at opposite sides of the tank, so they're not all going to the same spot competing for food.

Aquattro 04-05-2012 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 701529)
Are you gonna do a hypo or such?

I was going to, but decided no. The goby that took longer to catch seemed immune to the velvet. Once I caught it, I added it to the remaining fish in the q tank, and re-infected a couple of fish. Last night they didn't look great, but after treating with chloroquine, they're fine tonight and back eating. So I'll just use the CP to treat and run salt at about 1.022ish. Temp near 75 to enhance O2 saturation and lots of water movement.

gregzz4 04-05-2012 01:28 AM

Good to hear the infection is under control.
I like the temp idea. Something to store for future needs.

Lance 04-05-2012 01:42 AM

Brad, I don't think the aggression will be too bad as they won't really have their own space to defend. Numerous daily feedings and two nori stations at opposite ends of the tank will help. Maybe a little Texada Timewarp mixed in with the nori can't help but mellow those guys out. :mrgreen:

George 04-05-2012 04:05 AM

With so many big fish in such a tank, ammonia, oxygen, and aggression will be an issue. However those things can be dealt with easily. For ammonia problem, get yourself some prime or simiar ammonia binding thingy. For oxygen, buy a big airpump (they are cheap , less than the price for one fish). For aggression, get some egg-crate and make some tank dividers so you can separate the aggressors.
Good luck.

Aquattro 04-05-2012 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by George (Post 701642)
With so many big fish in such a tank, ammonia, oxygen, and aggression will be an issue. However those things can be dealt with easily. For ammonia problem, get yourself some prime or simiar ammonia binding thingy. For oxygen, buy a big airpump (they are cheap , less than the price for one fish). For aggression, get some egg-crate and make some tank dividers so you can separate the aggressors.
Good luck.

The tank is fully cycled with half a dozen fish now, then adding the rest later this week, if I get time to pick them up. I've added some more rock, will arrange it to provide lots of different mini territories, the aquaclear really agitates the surface and I can add more pumps. The biggie is managing interfish relationships. Worst case I can add dividers to section off fights.

Madmak 04-05-2012 06:41 AM

You could always call a meeting if things get out of hand. Meetings solve everything, just ask my boss.

Aquattro 04-05-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmak (Post 701678)
You could always call a meeting if things get out of hand. Meetings solve everything, just ask my boss.

You work for IBM?? :razz:

Madmak 04-06-2012 04:11 AM

Close :)

Aren't all 3 letter companies the same?

Aquattro 04-06-2012 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmak (Post 701993)
Close :)

Aren't all 3 letter companies the same?

Pretty much :)


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