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Nano 11-25-2011 02:56 AM

my cat broke my sump...
 
So my sump is cracked cause of my EFFING CAT! Luckily I have a cheap powerfilter on hang for over night, now I cant affor a new sump, and my 20 gallon I think sump was a bit too much, so here are my Ideas
Fluval C series HOB
Aquaclear Hob(I have one they are good but can get loud)
Marineland Emperor(same I have one can get loud.)
The only one I haven't tried is the Fluval, any other suggestions? I'd like to keep my costs in mind as always

Ryan_Lap 11-25-2011 03:00 AM

Make a new sump. Can be done for under $30 I imagine.

How did your cat break a sump? Was it made out of tissue paper?

Nano 11-25-2011 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Lap (Post 653653)
Make a new sump. Can be done for under $30 I imagine.

How did your cat break a sump? Was it made out of tissue paper?

no lol that would make sense.. She tried to jump through the underside of my tank and hit my overflow hard, it hit the glass and the glass cracked. I wont be doing another sump. And for the record I now dislike my cat.

sphelps 11-25-2011 03:10 AM

If that's the worst my cats ever did I'd be a happy man.

Nano 11-25-2011 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 653658)
If that's the worst my cats ever did I'd be a happy man.

lol you have bad cats too I take it.

Nano 11-25-2011 03:24 AM

lol I was Glad I was home when this happened other wise who knows the mess I couldve came home too

Beverly 11-25-2011 03:28 AM

I've always liked AquaClear HOBs. In my experience, they don't get loud at all. Maybe that's because I break it down completely and clean it weekly (especially the impeller) when I do a water change.

Madreefer 11-25-2011 03:32 AM

Yer steppin down a notch dude

Ryan_Lap 11-25-2011 03:38 AM

bet you could sell a cat for $30 and get a new sump

Nano 11-25-2011 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 653666)
Yer steppin down a notch dude

Well thats true I know, but I'd rather be safe. I dont want to come home to a bunch of dead fish and coral you know? Maybe in the future when I move to a bigger tank I will redo a new sump with a better over flow system. Again guys I know sump sump sump.. I dont want to risk it, I have a aquaclear 110 on now but the flow is mad fast. so I need something smaller lol

Nano 11-25-2011 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan_Lap (Post 653669)
bet you could sell a cat for $30 and get a new sump

anyways onto the filters. the cat cant be sold I took it when my sister passed.

Funky_Fish14 11-25-2011 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Beverly (Post 653664)
I've always liked AquaClear HOBs. In my experience, they don't get loud at all. Maybe that's because I break it down completely and clean it weekly (especially the impeller) when I do a water change.

I agree with Bev here... but also, you can neglect the heck out of an aquaclear... and in my 'years' of fishkeeping (I've had aquaclears at all times for 16 years... infact since just yesterday is the first time I havent owned one in 16 years), i've never had one get loud unless it had chunks of sand in the impeller, or was running dry.

They are pretty bulletproof, and incredibly easy to clean, and you can stuff just about any media you want in them. Thats why I like them.

Nano 11-25-2011 04:27 AM

thanks for sticking too the topic haha, much appreciated. I have a 110 on my cichlid tank, and am currently running an old 70 on my reef, until I get a new one tomorrow, the problem with this 70 is the media area has a small crack and drips so I need to replace it haha, I thought of maybe doing another aquaclear, but am very curious about the fluval c series I've heard some good things about the 5 stage filtration. just not sure ahaha

Funky_Fish14 11-25-2011 04:49 AM

Sorry... I didnt even realize the post was off-topic and about cats... Sorry to hear about the way you came to have the cat.

Ahh bummer that the aquaclear leaks!

And... well, here is my opinion on fluval...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...CeilingCat.png


LOL. Anyways, fluval G-series cannister filters were a flunk IMO (and in my other's opinions)... the proprietary filter cartrige replacement needs are a pain in the butt, also fluvals tend to clog with gunk fairly easily (I have done maintenance on a lot of tanks with fluvals). Aquclear is so easy to clean and you can put any media you want in it... and they rip waterflow really well. Just my opinion... but I think you will have an easier time (and easier effect on your wallet) dealing with aquclear than fluval. (Fluval has made 1 great product... the FX5... lots of other big-time products have been a fail).

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Chris

PS. Your sump may be repairable... i've built some tanks... maybe I can help you fix it? PM Me a pic... I live not to far away from wetaskiwin.

blacknife 11-25-2011 05:01 AM

Rubbermaid container time?

I tried to buy a rena xp4 at golds years ago and he would not let me waste my money on it and kept me on the one true filter. I agree on the bulletproofness and reusable foam

Funky_Fish14 11-25-2011 05:04 AM

Haha Dennis is the man (and his guys there with him). Those guys know their stuff and aquaclears one every tank. Some of the ones in that store are 15-20 years old. I saw one a few weeks ago that was so old... it was yellow/brown in body/resin colour... maybe faded, or just that old. It was clearly labelled aquaclear... the thing was running like a champ on a goldfish tank.

(Dennis being the owner of Gold's in calgary)

jtbadco 11-25-2011 05:13 AM

I have two Aquaclear 70's and a Fluval 404 running on my 33 gal reef. They are both crammed with biomax and LR rubble.

Never had a problem. A little harder to hide the heater, skimmer and filter intakes but with some creativity it can be done. Keep the impeller and impeller shaft in good shape and they are whisper quiet. 9 tanks, 9 Fluvals, 13 Aquaclears, 1 bedroom apartment. You do the math.:wink:

A sump offers you more options ie deep sand bed, refugiums, hiding gear, etc but IME they are not an absolute necessity. A sump is basically just a larger capacity, open-topped canister filter anyways.

And to qualify, my experience is only the 1 tank I started 6 mnths ago, but, knock on wood, everything has been going really well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82rPEl0_mzo

I also have no experience with larger tanks. The dynamics might be very different.

Nano 11-25-2011 05:46 AM

thanks guys, I thinkI'll stick with aquaclears mine are all great too, my 110 just needed a new impeller, and my 70 is about 8 years old and go cracked on our move, i figured i'd keep it for spare parts or emergencies like this one. thanks again you think an aquaclear 70 is too much for my nano? i thought of a 110 but even on the lowest setting thats a ton of flow

lastlight 11-25-2011 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Funky_Fish14 (Post 653699)
Some of the ones in that store are 15-20 years old.

Yeah I'm sure there's none of these new fandangled 110s running there. 500s all the way! I can't even call them 110s it just ain't right.

jtbadco 11-25-2011 05:58 AM

i think the AC 70 would be fine,......my tank is 48x12x12 and the flow is perfect

Nano 11-25-2011 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 653723)
Yeah I'm sure there's none of these new fandangled 110s running there. 500s all the way! I can't even call them 110s it just ain't right.

lol I have the 500(110) a new one for extra bio filtration on my 100 gallon cichlid tank I love them, but its a pain to clean all my filters all the time!! haha but I guess thats part of the joy!

Funky_Fish14 11-25-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 653723)
Yeah I'm sure there's none of these new fandangled 110s running there. 500s all the way! I can't even call them 110s it just ain't right.

Lol I agree Brett... I hate the new names. They've been out for a few years like that and I always confuse new people when Im chatting about them lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanomano (Post 653726)
lol I have the 500(110) a new one for extra bio filtration on my 100 gallon cichlid tank I love them, but its a pain to clean all my filters all the time!! haha but I guess thats part of the joy!

Haha pretty much. Cichlids poop... you probably have lots of them. Its the way it is lol.

Myka 11-25-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nanomano (Post 653659)
lol you have bad cats too I take it.

Steve has a Devon Rex...trouble makers!

If you cut off half the fins on the impeller for the AC110 it will slow the flow down so it would work better on a small tank.

Nano 11-25-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 653782)
Steve has a Devon Rex...trouble makers!

If you cut off half the fins on the impeller for the AC110 it will slow the flow down so it would work better on a small tank.

Haha yeah I tried that its really tough to balance.

Brandon5555 11-25-2011 04:09 PM

How big is the display tank?

Nano 11-25-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon5555 (Post 653807)
How big is the display tank?

20 gallons

Beverly 11-25-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 653782)
If you cut off half the fins on the impeller for the AC110 it will slow the flow down so it would work better on a small tank.

AC 110s really move water. In your experience, what sized tank would this impeller modification work on? Is a 10 too small?

TIA :)

Brandon5555 11-25-2011 04:54 PM

Hmmm, fluval 105/205? Im running a 205 on my 29 and couldnt be happier. Its honestly the best filter Ive ever run. When I chum the water I cut flow on the fluval and let the circulation pump be the cobra commander for an hour or so. Then I throw the flow back on full. I just love the features on them. People say they feel cheap but I like them. Maybe look into the new marine land canisters. They supposedly have the highest flow of canisters in their class

Nano 11-25-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beverly (Post 653825)
AC 110s really move water. In your experience, what sized tank would this impeller modification work on? Is a 10 too small?

TIA :)

I am afraid to wreck another impeller this way. Lol and yes, they move a ton of water, what is it, 500gph?

Brandon5555 11-25-2011 05:00 PM

Something in that range yeah. The price tag isnt too horrifying on them either. I think they're worth a second look. Honestly with my fluval 205, I took out one of the activated carbon bags and replaced it with with a bag of chemi-pure. The next morning my jaw dropped at the results. Of course at that time I was running a cascade 600 (internal canister). So any filter is probably a jaw dropper. All I can say is from personal experience is the -05 series are real champs.

Nano 11-25-2011 06:13 PM

So i found an aquaticlife mini 115 skimmer, that would fit in an aquaclear 70 witb room to spare. What do you think?

Blom 11-25-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nanomano (Post 653845)
So i found an aquaticlife mini 115 skimmer, that would fit in an aquaclear 70 witb room to spare. What do you think?


Hagen AquaClear 70 Power Filter
8.5" Long X 8" Tall X 6" Deep


AquaticLife Internal Mini Protein Skimmer 115
10.5Hx3Wx3L in

Nano 11-25-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blom (Post 653849)
Hagen AquaClear 70 Power Filter
8.5" Long X 8" Tall X 6" Deep


AquaticLife Internal Mini Protein Skimmer 115
10.5Hx3Wx3L in

Does it Ned to be fully submerged? Lol I know I'm a noob.

Blom 11-25-2011 06:28 PM

The owners manual... which can be found online for most things... http://c1.f3images.com/IMD/UserManuals/AK01114_1.pdf
states that the water lvl should be just below the top of the housing. Based on the dimensions on the Marine Depot site the height is 10.5 inches which I will assume to be the height with the collection cup on. The collection cup is 2x2x3, it doesn't specify what dimension is what, so again ill assume its a 2x2 square with 3 inch height. That all said:

10.5 - 3 = 7.5 inch

So if that is all correct then you wouldn't be able to submerge the skimmer to factory spec. Will the 1.5 inch matter... I dont know.

Nano 11-25-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blom (Post 653852)
The owners manual... which can be found online for most things... http://c1.f3images.com/IMD/UserManuals/AK01114_1.pdf
states that the water lvl should be just below the top of the housing. Based on the dimensions on the Marine Depot site the height is 10.5 inches which I will assume to be the height with the collection cup on. The collection cup is 2x2x3, it doesn't specify what dimension is what, so again ill assume its a 2x2 square with 3 inch height. That all said:

10.5 - 3 = 7.5 inch

So if that is all correct then you wouldn't be able to submerge the skimmer to factory spec. Will the 1.5 inch matter... I dont know.

Ahhh right as always king Friday. Lol. Well ill just do the filter for the time being. Maybe one day I'll either do a hob skimmer or a bigger tank lol

globaldesigns 11-25-2011 08:23 PM

TIME TO KILL THE CAT!

Brightwhite 11-25-2011 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globaldesigns (Post 653874)
TIME TO KILL THE CAT!

You might wanna read back a couple pages...

Nano 11-25-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brightwhite (Post 653876)
You might wanna read back a couple pages...

Thanks man Haha. Some people.

globaldesigns 11-25-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanomano (Post 653879)
Thanks man Haha. Some people.

Hey, no offense intended, and I am very sorry for the loss. But if an animal causes damage, and there is possibilities for great damage because of water, then I would not have that animal. And I did not read every thread entry, so my fault for that.

Again, nothing mean intended here. I am not new here, and people can testify to my intentions.

Again very sorry.

globaldesigns 11-25-2011 08:55 PM

And before anyone comments on my entries or bashes me, please know that I have lost close family members, including my mother, who I held while she died in my arms... So I can relate to the thread author.

Again I can understand why you keep the animal, but I do have a different view on things.

I hope you get things worked out with the tank.


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