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Reef-Geek 03-01-2011 07:45 PM

UPS? Power shut off
 
Hi, all

My apartment will have a 8 hours(high chance it will be shorter than that) power shut off from 11pm-7am and I need you advice.

I have a 34 gallon mixed reef tank, water volume is about 25-27 gallon.
What should I do when power is cut off?

1.I can turn the room heater on 25C before the power shut off, and use blankets to wrap the tank. Will that be efficient to keep the temperature not dropping too fast for 8 hours?

2.The cheap APC UPS can only hold 50w device for 16mins, so obvious I cannot connect it to me 100w heater. Should I get one for the pumps(mp10)? Is it essential? Does any one of you have a ups?

3.any more advices? suggestions?

ottoman 03-01-2011 07:57 PM

This may sound stupid, try get some hot water bag from dollar store, fill with hot water before power out, tie them around the tank. If you are still worry, try home depot, they may have generator for rent.

cathyg_99 03-01-2011 07:59 PM

i would say get a battery powered air stone and just make sure there is still movement in the tank, if you can maybe even get a battery pack for your powerhead you should be okay with that... the most important thing is air and movement

cale262 03-01-2011 08:00 PM

I'd call Hertz Equipment and rent a small gas generator for the day.


or just google "tool rental vancouver"...

Reef-Geek 03-01-2011 08:01 PM

Thanks, so how much will the temperature drop in 8 hours if no heater?
My current temperature is around 27C

cale262 03-01-2011 08:06 PM

http://www.abtoolrentals.com/equipme...key=060%2D0064

or

http://www.abtoolrentals.com/equipme...key=060%2D0070

Reef-Geek 03-01-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cale262 (Post 595035)

Thanks, have you actually tried it?
how quiet is it?

cale262 03-01-2011 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shingo43 (Post 595036)
Thanks, have you actually tried it?
how quiet is it?


I've used the honda gens quite a bit (camping etc.) and they are very quiet.

Quote:

NOISE: 59DBA @ FULL LOAD

A blender makes more noise than that :wink:

ScubaSteve 03-01-2011 08:39 PM

Send Daniel (Carrera75) a PM. He had the same issue recently and I believe he rented batteries (kinda like the Candian Tire "jump that your car in jiffy" kinda deals). Worked well for him.

abcha0s 03-01-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shingo43 (Post 595034)
Thanks, so how much will the temperature drop in 8 hours if no heater?
My current temperature is around 27C

Your temperautre will drop rapidly. It will reach ambient room temperature within an hour or two (max).

You didn't mention if your heating was electrical or gas? - If it is gas and you set your room temp at 25C then you won't need to worry about your temp. If it's electrical heating and the apartment drops to 15C, you could have a real problem.

You only need to worry about heating above the ambient room temp. Same principal as cooling in the summer. You can cool the tank, or you can cool the room.

- Brad

cwatkins 03-01-2011 09:15 PM

Do you have a gas fireplace? Just leave that on.

Alternately, I'd just get a UPS to run a power head and an air stone. Wrap the tank or use Home Depot foam insulation.

Also, you could increase the tank temperature by a degree so that it stays warmer longer?

Kevotron 03-01-2011 11:33 PM

or purchase a heat dish ~$30 from costco and point it directly at the tank.
should be warm enough to keep the temperature @ 25 degrees or so.

hillegom 03-01-2011 11:50 PM

You have to plug that heat dish in. He won't have power.
I would warm the room a couple of hours before.
get the battery operated air stone.
Use foam/blankets
Do not open windows or doors or use bathroom fans.

Kevotron 03-02-2011 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillegom (Post 595093)
You have to plug that heat dish in. He won't have power.
I would warm the room a couple of hours before.
get the battery operated air stone.
Use foam/blankets
Do not open windows or doors or use bathroom fans.

Heh ! Thanks Hillegom...
if only i can delete that post :P
I would get an APC Back-UPS LS 700 ~$160 which capable of 400 watts
plug in a small power head/heater it will easily last 4-6 hrs ?

apex82 03-02-2011 03:03 AM

Definately need to spend $150 or more on a ups backup in order for it to power up a powerhead. I had one of those $65ish huge block apc ups and it couldnt even run a koralia 3 with it fully charged... Upgraded to a much beefier unit 1000 watts+ and it runs all pumps etc for over 60 minutes.

abcha0s 03-02-2011 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apex82 (Post 595148)
Definately need to spend $150 or more on a ups backup in order for it to power up a powerhead. I had one of those $65ish huge block apc ups and it couldnt even run a koralia 3 with it fully charged... Upgraded to a much beefier unit 1000 watts+ and it runs all pumps etc for over 60 minutes.

I agree.

Just to add my tidbit of useless knowledge to the mix - the difference is the cheap units put out a square wave and the better units put out a sine wave. I've never tried it, but my guess is that a powerhead (or any pump) won't run on a square wave.

- Brad


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