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BWI 01-31-2011 07:22 PM

SR-Elite RO/DI 1:1 Ratio Extremely Efficient
 
The SR-Elite RO/DI is our new system that will have the same features and quality as all of our systems. We have matched the Waste Water with the Pure Water Production producing a 1:1 ratio (water temp may affect production slightly by 0.5 gpd. System will include a TDS meter to monitor the filters, Flush kit to help with the membranes longevity, the highest quality filters will be installed, NFS cert filters, Medical Grage Colour Changing DI Media, Booster pump with pressure switch (allowing the system to be installed in low pressure situations), Auto Shut Off to stop the unit when the water isn't being used! Lastly a 3 Year Warranty.

System will come in either a 4 stage or 5 stage model with any one of these flow rates 75 GPD, 100 GPD,150 GPD, 200 GPD models.

Pricing is still being finalized but will be ready within 24 hours!

We are very excited about this unit and so should U :clap:

BWI 02-02-2011 10:07 PM

Pricing goes as followed... I will price the base unit of the SR-Elite and any extras u can add. This way the base price for a basic RO/DI is cheaper.




SR-Elite 100 GPD 1 Clean : 1 Waste $198
  • 4 Stage RO/DI
  • Filters: 1 Micron Sediment, 1 Micron Carbon Block, 100 GPD Membrane, Medical Grade Colour Changing DI Media w/ refillable canister
  • Filter Wrench
  • Hose Bib Adapter for input connection
  • Flush Kit: Extends the membrane life
  • HM TDS Filter monitor Meter: Monitors your filters before the DI Chamber
  • 3 Year Warranty
  • The system will have a 1:1 ratio. Waste / Production may very based on water temp and Water Pressure.
SR-Elite 150 GPD 1 Clean : 1 Waste $249
  • 4 Stage RO/DI
  • Filters: 1 Micron Sediment, 1 Micron Carbon Block, 150 GPD GE Membrane, Medical Grade Colour Changing DI Media w/ refillable canister
  • Filter Wrench
  • Hose Bib Adapter for input connection
  • Flush Kit: Extends the membrane life
  • HM TDS Filter monitor Meter: Monitors your filters before the DI Chamber
  • 3 Year Warranty
  • The system will have a 1:1 ratio. Waste / Production may very based on water temp and Water Pressure.

christyf5 02-02-2011 10:18 PM

These sound great! Are these the set prices or introductory prices?

BWI 02-08-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5 (Post 587663)
These sound great! Are these the set prices or introductory prices?

Prices will increase a little once the units get out there for a few months.. This will be a little promo price!

BWI 02-15-2011 08:46 PM

Well u have no idea how excited i am :woohoo: the rest of the parts i ordered for the SR-Elite system arrived today...... I will build a unit to make a promo video for everyone to see! Looks like prices might change in a good way :pompom: for you!!!!


Our basic system will be any flow rate you want, will be the basic 4 stage system RO/DI with colour changing DI, Flush-kit installed... 1:1 clean to waste ratio....Will operate in low pressure applications also...

Our system you'll be able to add auto shut offs, TDS meters, Auto Flush systems with booster pumps....

WE WILL BE TAKING PRE-ORDERS IN LESS THEN 1 WEEK!!!!!!! SAVE MONEY NOW FOR THIS SYSTEM!!!

BWI 03-08-2011 07:46 PM

Its time get your orders in now and Save Roughly $80

https://store-028a0.mybigcommerce.co...s/sr-elite.jpg

sphelps 04-11-2011 02:43 PM

Just wanted to let people know I installed this system last weekend and it works great. It reduces my TDS from 280 down to 3 after the RO and 0 after the DI. The waste ratio appears to be petty close to 1:1 although I haven't measured it just yet but definitely very close. Auto flush kit works great and is a nice option. Overall very happy with the unit so far and would recommend to others.

StirCrazy 04-11-2011 02:52 PM

any pictures of the system?

Steve

sphelps 04-11-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 605970)
any pictures of the system?

Steve

Nope but it looks just like a standard 4 stage system, with 3 canisters on the base and one RO on the top. 2 Canisters are pre-filters and the 3rd is DI cartridge. The canisters are clear which is nice.

Looks just like this:
http://www.bwiplumbing.com/product_i...31385_zoom.jpg

es355lucille 04-11-2011 02:59 PM

:biggrin: ----> taggin along.

christyf5 04-11-2011 04:29 PM

I ordered one of these too. Filled my reservoir faster than I expected (tri-annual floor cleaning :wink:). Easy to set up (plug and play) and I'm very happy aboout the 1:1 ratio instead of the 1:4 or 1:5 on my old unit :biggrin:

lastlight 04-11-2011 04:44 PM

My unit has the same stages currently. What can I do to make my current one 1:1? Is the magic in the membrane?

Myka 04-11-2011 05:06 PM

What brand are the RO membranes? Is membrane life expectancy of the RO membrane reduced from the achievement of 1:1 ratio in comparison to say a typical Filmtec membrane? What about this system makes it produce 1:1? Can I retrofit my AquaFX system?

Btw, clicking on that banner doesn't link properly.

hillegom 04-11-2011 07:13 PM

Yes, retrofit would be good

StirCrazy 04-11-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 606021)
What about this system makes it produce 1:1? Can I retrofit my AquaFX system?

I am wondering this also. I can reduce my output to 1:1 but the membrain won't last as long.

Steve

mark 04-11-2011 10:37 PM

Interested in a retro as well. Would the membrane fit into a regular ro housing (ideally the housing used by AquasafeCanada)?

Myka 04-22-2011 11:00 PM

BWI, what's the scoop? Any answers for our questions? :)

Coleus 04-23-2011 05:43 AM

what is the magic? Do you sell retrofit?

DAVE 04-23-2011 10:59 AM

I find it funny that BWI will not respond to there claim on how to make it 1:1.

I understand it's there product and they don't want people to copy them, but if you want people to purchase these units (I would be one of them) then you need to tell us how you are getting 1:1. What is the science behind it?

We could all make our units 1:1 but we would just need to change the membrane 4x faster.

PLEASE GIVE US SOME INFO!

BWI 04-23-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 606001)
My unit has the same stages currently. What can I do to make my current one 1:1? Is the magic in the membrane?

I will release a retro kit so that u can change your unit unit to a 1:1 ration unit!!!

I should have the kit complete by the days end!

BWI 04-23-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 606021)
What brand are the RO membranes? Is membrane life expectancy of the RO membrane reduced from the achievement of 1:1 ratio in comparison to say a typical Filmtec membrane? What about this system makes it produce 1:1? Can I retrofit my AquaFX system?

Btw, clicking on that banner doesn't link properly.


The membrane will last the same amount of time your standard units will or longer because of the auto flush kit.... The auto flush kit will flush the membrane right at start up for 30-40 sec which will also prevent TDS creep, and periodically will flush the membrane when the units running!

BWI 04-23-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark (Post 606138)
Interested in a retro as well. Would the membrane fit into a regular ro housing (ideally the housing used by AquasafeCanada)?

Yes the membrane will fit any standard membrane housing!

BWI 04-23-2011 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrologist (Post 608842)
I find it funny that BWI will not respond to there claim on how to make it 1:1.

I understand it's there product and they don't want people to copy them, but if you want people to purchase these units (I would be one of them) then you need to tell us how you are getting 1:1. What is the science behind it?

We could all make our units 1:1 but we would just need to change the membrane 4x faster.

PLEASE GIVE US SOME INFO!

our units use a combination of membrane and auto flush kit to achieve this 1:1 ratio with out compromising the membrane life and water quality!

mike31154 04-23-2011 06:45 PM

Looking forward to seeing this retrofit kit. I purchased one of your SR-1 systems a couple of years ago and the membrane's still working great.

Myka 04-23-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWI (Post 608872)
The membrane will last the same amount of time your standard units will or longer because of the auto flush kit.... The auto flush kit will flush the membrane right at start up for 30-40 sec which will also prevent TDS creep, and periodically will flush the membrane when the units running!

Thank you for finally answering some of my questions. So...what brand are these membranes? How are you achieve 1:1? This is an important question because membrane life expectancy could be compromised, and I don't find manufacturer claims to be sufficient. If you could please explain this, I would still be interested in a retrofit.

I use a flush kit on my current system, and I use it on every start up as well as flushing after every use. I doubt that standard home water pressure is good enough to flush the membrane very well, but I do it anyway. :lol:

Coleus 04-24-2011 06:48 PM

how much for the retrofit and 2 150gpd membrane?

StirCrazy 04-25-2011 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 608920)
Thank you for finally answering some of my questions. So...what brand are these membranes? How are you achieve 1:1? This is an important question because membrane life expectancy could be compromised, and I don't find manufacturer claims to be sufficient. If you could please explain this, I would still be interested in a retrofit.

I use a flush kit on my current system, and I use it on every start up as well as flushing after every use. I doubt that standard home water pressure is good enough to flush the membrane very well, but I do it anyway. :lol:

I think there just using a normal membrain and by setting the auto flush unit to flush frequently during production it keeps the build up lower.

If you have enough water pressure to make RO water you have enough to flush :wink:

Steve

Myka 04-25-2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 609385)
I think there just using a normal membrain and by setting the auto flush unit to flush frequently during production it keeps the build up lower.

If you have enough water pressure to make RO water you have enough to flush :wink:

Steve

Steve, when the valve is open and it bypasses the flow restrictor for flushing there is only 30 psi through the unit. I have a friend that is a pro ro guy and he told me that isn't enough psi to flush the membrane well enough to make a difference. He said flush kits really only work on high psi commercial systems. Maybe that's not true...I don't know.

I think you're right about the membrane. I flush my membrane a few times mid-use too, and always make sure that my storage barrel is almost empty so I make 50 gallons at a time since the membrane will last longer than frequent, short uses.

StirCrazy 04-26-2011 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 609389)
Steve, when the valve is open and it bypasses the flow restrictor for flushing there is only 30 psi through the unit.

you only have 30 PSI water pressure?

Steve

Myka 04-26-2011 04:22 PM

I have 65 psi when a 150 gpd flow restrictor is used. If flow is completely blocked there is a little under 70 psi. When water bypasses the flow restrictor through the 1/4" tubing the pressure gauge only reads around 30 psi. Less resistance, less pressure. Yours is probably similar. :)

reefermadness 04-26-2011 06:56 PM

It is normal for the system pressure to drop when you flush the membrane. You are releasing the back pressure on the system....its like opening a faucet....the pressure on the line drops.

Myka 04-26-2011 08:26 PM

Yah mahn. It will stay at 30 psi indefinitely though.

reefermadness 04-27-2011 12:48 AM

Turn the flush on....pressure drop...turn the flush off and pressure back up or no? Can you clarify?

Myka 04-27-2011 03:54 AM

Yep. If I turn the flush on for 15 minutes the pressure doesn't go up at all, 30 psi is all I get with the flush going. Isn't that typical? That's what I have always seen in residential applications.

reefermadness 04-27-2011 03:57 AM

Yes that is normal. Turning the flush on releases the back pressure on the membrane.

StirCrazy 04-27-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 609553)
I have 65 psi when a 150 gpd flow restrictor is used. If flow is completely blocked there is a little under 70 psi. When water bypasses the flow restrictor through the 1/4" tubing the pressure gauge only reads around 30 psi. Less resistance, less pressure. Yours is probably similar. :)

naa mine isnt like that but only because I use a pump to supply my water at 120 PSI. it still drops off a bit but only to about 90 PSI because the volume of the pump is good enough to keep the PSI up.

I do think your drop through a 1/4" line is a little large. befor my pump in my old house I would get about a 3 PSI drop, not 35 PSI, but I guess that could have to do in how you are supplying the water and where the PSI is measured.

Steve

mw5655 04-29-2011 04:36 AM

Sorry to Hijack this post but has anybody else been waiting on their 150gpd 1:1 unit from BWI? My order was placed May 18th still waiting. Just wondering if I'm the only one.

sphelps 04-29-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mw5655 (Post 610124)
Sorry to Hijack this post but has anybody else been waiting on their 150gpd 1:1 unit from BWI? My order was placed May 18th still waiting. Just wondering if I'm the only one.

Yeah I have to say the customer service is lacking from this guy, likely he's busy with spring work and BWI is a side business. I had to follow up with him to get my unit shipped and I'm confident I'd still be waiting if I didn't so contact him ASAP.

Also people should note these units do not apparently include an auto shut off so you'll either have to add one or manually turn the water supply on or off (a float switch won't shut it off). I see he's noted this in the thread now but the website is misleading as it states it's included. I managed to get a shut off added after I already received my unit but I'm still waiting for it, took over two weeks for him to ship it out after being promised next day and again I had to follow up to even get it out then.

Overall like the product, hate the service. Will not be a repeat customer. Look around there are plenty other 1:1 units available and even 2:1 (2 good, 1 waste) units available, not as cheap but at least they actually do include everything you need.

christyf5 04-29-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 610147)
Yeah I have to say the customer service is lacking from this guy, likely he's busy with spring work and BWI is a side business. I had to follow up with him to get my unit shipped and I'm confident I'd still be waiting if I didn't so contact him ASAP.

Also people should note these units do not apparently include an auto shut off so you'll either have to add one or manually turn the water supply on or off (a float switch won't shut it off). I see he's noted this in the thread now but the website is misleading as it states it's included. I managed to get a shut off added after I already received my unit but I'm still waiting for it, took over two weeks for him to ship it out after being promised next day and again I had to follow up to even get it out then.

Overall like the product, hate the service. Will not be a repeat customer. Look around there are plenty other 1:1 units available and even 2:1 (2 good, 1 waste) units available, not as cheap but at least they actually do include everything you need.


hmm i haven't received my auto shutoff yet either. he did say he was shipping it out the next day after we talked sphelps :neutral:

sphelps 04-29-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5 (Post 610162)
hmm i haven't received my auto shutoff yet either. he did say he was shipping it out the next day after we talked sphelps :neutral:

If you haven't received a tracking number it's highly unlikely it's been shipped.


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