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Milad 12-01-2010 09:15 PM

LED group buy - Ends December 10th - WICKED DEALS
 
ALL PRICES ARE IN USD (current CDN to USD is .98)
Group buy is closed. For additional group buys check out www.LEDGroupBuy.com



Ok people, I got a really good deal on LEDs from CREE and im offering them up to you before I order. I will close down the group buy on Dec 10th and you have 48hours to send me the money via paypal (+3% if you use credit card i believe). Or you can give me cash if you live in vancouver area, im near JL alot.

This is a wicked deal on these LEDs considering most other places they are going to be 50% more.

The order will be paid by me after i get everyone's money and will be shipped to me. Once I have them, i will ship them out within a couple days to everyone that made the order.

For people outside GVRD area:


You guys needs to decide on one person who I can ship to and you can all be there to pick them up so its cheaper for everyone. For instance, joe bob and fred from calgary all want LEDs. They split the $20 shipping cost and I send them all to Joe. Bob and Fred meet up with Joe and pickup their LEDs.



Ontop of the below prices, there is a shipping charge to me so once we get closer to the end of the group buy, ill let you guys know how much its going to be to ship to me and ill tack it on to everyones order by % of LEDs per person.

If we get enough people in vancouver, we can have a build party if someone is willing to host it.

Prices:

LEDS ( Spec ):
XP-E Royal Blue www.LEDGroupBuy.com for price
XP-G Cool White www.LEDGroupBuy.com for price


Optics ( Spec ):
40 degree www.LEDGroupBuy.com for price
60 degree www.LEDGroupBuy.com for price

yes the above price is not a typo :)
these are all star mounted


Current Numbers

Vancouver (Milad):
Milad - RB: 104, CW: 86, 40Lens: 174 = $938 Paid: $977.03 12/6/2010
(hold till jan rd) Ferret - RB: 25, CW: 22, 40Lens: 5 = $185.75 Paid $190 12/7/2010
monocus - RB: 25 = $75 Paid: $100 12/8/2010

Victoria (Jaws):
Jaws - RB: 150, CW: 78, 40Lens: 216 = $1090.50 Paid: $1090.5 12/6/2010
(hold till jan rd) KevinK - RB: 68, CW: 40 = $394 Paid: $416.37 12/11/2010


Calgary (elias)
elias - RB: 65, CW: 30, 60Lens:15, 40Lens: 80, MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01:2 = $480.25 Paid: $513 12/12/2010

St. John's, NL (nlreefguy):
nlreefguy - RB: 10, CW:8 = $68 Paid: $89.95 12/5/2010

Vernon (mseepman):
(hold till jan rd) mseepman - RB: 96, CW: 48, Blues: 12, Neutral White: 24, 60Lens: 168 = $873 Paid: $919.56 12/8/2010

GTA (gucci17):
gucci17 - RB: 28, CW: 16, NW:6, B:6 60Lens: 56 = $278 Paid: $302.27 12/10/2010

Hamilton (wrj)
wrj - RB:22, CW: 14, 60Lens: 36 = $177.50 Paid: $198.55 12/10/2010

Sask (jfish)
(hold till jan rd) jfish - RB: 72, CW: 72 = $558 Paid: $572.59 12/12/2010



Questions
1. Do you know if the price for the optics includes the plastic lens holders or is that the lens only?Holders and lens
2. Are you able to get a price from ETG on Neutral whites and regular blues as well? I plan on buying a mix to get the lighting the way I want it. No, we are trying to keep cost down so we are just doing the group buy on RB and CW. All the fixtures ive been reading about use RB and CW colors only. a 2:1 ratio of RB to CW will give you close to 15k color temp (a little bluer).

3. Did they share with you the bin numbers on those? I cant specify bin numbers but I can specify kit number which includes certain bins. But this will be for everyone. any suggestions for kit numbers? Im going to research this so we can get the best.
4. How much for MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01 mounted on a star and lens? $12ea in small quantities but there is no lens
5. Does the price include tax?Yes and No. The vendor is not going to charge us tax but the border will, expect the shipping charge to be a % of your total order
6. Are these mounted on stars? Yes
7. How will it be shipped? UPS
8. How much for neutral whites and blues? Blues $3.75 neutral whites $4.25

ferret 12-01-2010 09:58 PM

I need : XP-E Royal blue - 25 nos. x $3.00 = $ 75.00
XP-G Cool white - 22 nos. x $4.75 = 104.50
40 degree optics - 5 nos. x $1.25 = 6.25
_______
Tol : USD185.75

Pm you for payment details

Milad 12-01-2010 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret (Post 569591)
I need : XP-E Royal blue - 25 nos. x $3.00 = $ 75.00
XP-G Cool white - 22 nos. x $4.75 = 104.50
40 degree optics - 5 nos. x $1.25 = 6.25
_______
Tol : USD185.75

Pm you for payment details

what does nos mean?

ferret 12-01-2010 10:14 PM

nos. = units

ScubaSteve 12-01-2010 10:27 PM

Good work, bud!

Sign me up for:

4 - RB
2 - CW
6 - 40 Degree Optics

Total: $29

Do you know if the price for the optics includes the plastic lens holders or is that the lens only?

mseepman 12-01-2010 10:40 PM

Are you able to get a price from ETG on Neutral whites and regular blues as well? I plan on buying a mix to get the lighting the way I want it.
Also, did they share with you the bin numbers on those?

Milad 12-01-2010 11:06 PM

I cant really get good prices on other colors because I told them we are going to buy a ton and since i was buying a big amount already I told her we are going to be in the 100-300 range on all the LEDs so she gave me a good price on them.

My understanding from reading everything on reefcentral boards (and let me tell you there is alot to read), almost everyone is going RB and CW colors. im going 2:1 RB to CW and it should give me something a bit bluer than 15k.

Scuba im going to collect questions and just ask them every two days.

Marlin65 12-02-2010 12:36 AM

What about the ballest to run them?

Milad 12-02-2010 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin65 (Post 569627)
What about the ballest to run them?

ballest = drivers

drivers depend on how you build so cant really get a group buy on them since everyone might want something different. I cant point you to a good place to get a driver though. just gota know what you plan on doing.

Edmonton newbie 12-02-2010 01:41 AM

anybody in edmonton up for this?

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-02-2010 02:24 AM

i am interested.put me in for
60 pcs of the royal blue and 60 pcs of the 40 degree lens.
which code are they.
XPEROY-L1-0000-00901 or
XPEROY-L1-0000-00A01 or
XPEROY-L1-0000-00B01 thanx

what would they price you on this code
MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01 how about lens for it.no realy looking for a deal just a $
thanx


cheers


man i was just ready to place an order this evening:smile:

Milad 12-02-2010 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elias (Post 569663)
i am interested.put me in for
60 pcs of the royal blue and 60 pcs of the 40 degree lens.
which code are they.
XPEROY-L1-0000-00901 or
XPEROY-L1-0000-00A01 or
XPEROY-L1-0000-00B01 thanx

what would they price you on this code
MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01 how about lens for it.no realy looking for a deal just a $
thanx


cheers


man i was just ready to place an order this evening:smile:

ill email her and let you know. how many you need?

also which of the above you prefer and why? They are going to let me choose the kit for the order so everyones will be the same.

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-02-2010 03:13 AM

Base Order Codes
Min Radiant @ 350 mA
XPEROY-L1-0000-00901 group 14 350 Flux (mW)
XPEROY-L1-0000-00A01 group 15 425 Flux (mW)
XPEROY-L1-0000-00B01 group 16 500 flux (mW)
the 3rd is the best one i would like 60 pcs.
what is the brand and type of the optics,looking to get 60pcs.

for my array i love the deep blue. so i will run the blue separate than the whites,at different times of the day.
i would go with
MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01 for the white this specific one is multi-chip LED that provides high lumen output in a small footprint 430 LMS at 350 mA
i would probably get only 5 pcs these are $er

Edmonton newbie 12-02-2010 03:18 AM

elias what drivers are you using for these and where are you findng them?

Milad 12-02-2010 03:22 AM

wow MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01 are bright
here is the spec sheet for the lens
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2361330/Aqua...R-DFxxL-Mx.pdf

spec for the leds

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2361330/Aqua.../XLampXP-G.pdf

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-02-2010 03:30 AM

i am using the dimmable buckpuck i am sure there are few others down in the market. they are maybe 2 square" and they fit snug in my array.
i still need to do more reaserch on the
MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01for their driver.
but i am thinking of one led instead of few.
i got those buckpucks in calgary a little over a year ago.

monocus 12-02-2010 02:20 PM

leds
 
call me next time your going down to j&l - i need some royal blues

Milad 12-02-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monocus (Post 569762)
call me next time your going down to j&l - i need some royal blues

how many royal blues do you need so i can get you on the list.

monocus 12-02-2010 11:49 PM

leds-
 
i need 25 of them-going to mix the blue i have with royal blue

Milad 12-02-2010 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monocus (Post 569874)
i need 25 of them-going to mix the blue i have with royal blue

I put you down for 25 which is $75usd plus some extra shipping charges

btw these leds can be compared at $7.95 on the CW to places like reefledlights.com... thats a $3+ savings per LED! which adds up quick.

freezetyle 12-03-2010 02:21 AM

these don't come mounted on the stars do they?

Milad 12-03-2010 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freezetyle (Post 569906)
these don't come mounted on the stars do they?

yes they do

coreyskylar 12-03-2010 04:14 AM

Led verses 4 bulb tel light
 
Would these LEDs be better than a tek light, I have alot of corals mostly Sps.
Would my corals still grow?

Milad 12-03-2010 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreyskylar (Post 569940)
Would these LEDs be better than a tek light, I have alot of corals mostly Sps.
Would my corals still grow?

yes and yes but you can just plug these in
you need to build a led fixture

The fixture im building is similar to 3x 250-400 MH fixture
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...threadid=70413

coreyskylar 12-03-2010 06:26 AM

Would I be able to incorperate night
Lights as well?
How many bulbs should I use for a standard 90gallon, and what colour to use?
What would the cost be about?
What else would I need to buy?
Anyways I'm interested but know nothing about them.

Milad 12-03-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreyskylar (Post 569959)
Would I be able to incorperate night
Lights as well?
How many bulbs should I use for a standard 90gallon, and what colour to use?
What would the cost be about?
What else would I need to buy?
Anyways I'm interested but know nothing about them.

you could do a moonlight several different ways, I still havent decided how I would do mine.

A standard 90 wanting to keep SPS could build two of the modules im building.
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=70413
of course you need different drivers for two modules.

to build an LED light you would need:
LEDs
Heatsink
Drivers
thermal paste
solder + soldering iron
screws
wire

If you follow along on my thread, ill be detailing it step by step. You can also search LED DIY builds and they will explain how to do it too.
There is also videos on youtube.

cost for a two 48LED modules would probably be under 1k

Milad 12-03-2010 10:14 PM

first post updated with questions answered

looks like there is no tax at the vendor end but when it hits the border there will be tax. So expect a % ontop of the total LED cost to cover the border cash grab. Im not sure how to charge this one, anyone got some ideas?

http://www.chillicious.com/finance/c...es-for-canada/
looks like 8%? but im guessing this was written before the HST?

ferret 12-03-2010 10:28 PM

Hi Milad,

No problem! I'll pay you the amount for the leds I need next week and the outstanding balance ( i.e. tax + shipping cost as prorated ) will be settled when I collected my stuff.

Milad 12-03-2010 10:42 PM

ya its looking like ill just have to pay the duty+tax then just collect it from everyone after.

mike31154 12-04-2010 01:14 AM

Try and make sure they send the package via USPS, not UPS. If they send it UPS, there will be a nasty brokerage fee. Anyone else in the Okanagan interested in this buy? If I'm the only one it's probably not worth Milad's effort to ship here.

cwatkins 12-04-2010 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike31154 (Post 570112)
Try and make sure they send the package via USPS, not UPS. If they send it UPS, there will be a nasty brokerage fee. Anyone else in the Okanagan interested in this buy? If I'm the only one it's probably not worth Milad's effort to ship here.

Correct. UPS Ground usually minimum $40 brokerage. I think brokerage is included in UPS Express. Or ship it to blaine or point roberts and bring it across. For sure with that amount you'll have to go in and pay HST on it at the border.

KevinK 12-04-2010 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milad (Post 570082)
first post updated with questions answered

looks like there is no tax at the vendor end but when it hits the border there will be tax. So expect a % ontop of the total LED cost to cover the border cash grab. Im not sure how to charge this one, anyone got some ideas?

http://www.chillicious.com/finance/c...es-for-canada/
looks like 8%? but im guessing this was written before the HST?

in case thy dont ship with usps but whit ups, fed ex ore so, I have a borker that charges only a flat fee, if you buy for $20 ore for $ 2,000 it dous not matter,

out of my head it is $ 22 ore $ 25 CND for the broking service, so that would not be to bad on anorder that is aparently running into the numbers, where ups and all of the others rip you off.

I will place my order in a few days, in case needed, we can use my broker to arange the import, I have to check the duty on the led's of my last order, i will do this tomorrow, and let you know.

pleas note, custom fee is not HST, so if there was a 8% duty, than it is the cost of the product + the cost of shipping = total cost pre duty, than ad the 8% duty, and than ad the 12% HST.

tax tax tax, we cant go around it, however the duty, is not that bad I find.

i will post what I paid on duty last time, I think it was less than 8%, I think it was 5 ore so. I wil check

Chin_Lee 12-04-2010 04:52 AM

Milad - can you post a link to the RC thread about this? I am interested to learn and see if I can do something like this but need to read up more on it first

Milad 12-04-2010 06:32 AM

the big RC thread:
page 200 has the summary:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1678127

here is my RC thread which is only a few pages long
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1939739

monocus 12-04-2010 05:20 PM

leds
 
when are you going to be at j&l this weekend-also all the leds,heatsinks,driver,and lenses i have recieved so far have not had any duty on them yet-but my orders have been under $100

Milad 12-04-2010 05:56 PM

For anyone wanting to start getting the money to me, here is where ill be, you can call me to meet me somewhere (604-809-6965).

Saturday (today): @6:30-9:30pm ill be around Richmond minoru oval
Sunday: North Van
Monday: North Van
Tuesday: 1:30-2:30 UBC
Wednesday: 9-5 SFU, 5:30-6:00 J&L
Thursday: 9-5 SFU, 5:30-6:00 J&L
Friday: 9-5 SFU, 5:30-6:00 J&L

mseepman 12-04-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike31154 (Post 570112)
Try and make sure they send the package via USPS, not UPS. If they send it UPS, there will be a nasty brokerage fee. Anyone else in the Okanagan interested in this buy? If I'm the only one it's probably not worth Milad's effort to ship here.

I'm in from Vernon if Mike31154 is also in to help with the shipping a little.

I would like 96 XP-E royal blues and 48 XP-G Cool Whites. 144 x 60 degree optics as well.

On page 1 it lists who is ordering..but Milad, yours shows only getting 144 optics...but having 168 leds?

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-05-2010 05:34 AM

i will be calling you tomorrow sunday afternoon,or so.
here is the items i need.
60 XP-E Royal Blue $3.00 = 180$
60 40 degree 1.25 = 75$
10 MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01 = 120$ unless you coold get
a better $

thanx


cheers

Milad 12-05-2010 05:05 PM

first page updated, please check your order so i know its right.

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-06-2010 02:58 AM

hello MIlad i think you put me in for 50 of 40degree lens i need 60 pcs.
is MCE4WT-A2-0000-000M01 comes mounted on a star?
do they carry any drivers ,types and $ would be great.
thanx


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