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klee888 10-13-2010 04:41 PM

cleaning crew death
 
Hi everyone, I have a bio cube 29 cycled for about 2 months with live rock and live sand first crew introduced yesterday and they all seem to have expired. Ph is 8.3 salinity is within the hydro meters norm. Checked nitrates and nitrites and are all showing 0 or near 0. What could have happened?

Coleus 10-13-2010 04:43 PM

Have you checked the ammonia level?

ScubaSteve 10-13-2010 04:55 PM

If they have ALL died that fast it would likely have to be ammonia or some other poison floating around. Do you have carbon running? What's your ammonia at?

The other likely possibilty... ACCLIMATION! How did you go about acclimating them? What did you add for CUC?

MitchM 10-14-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ScubaSteve (Post 556000)
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The other likely possibilty... ACCLIMATION! How did you go about acclimating them? ...


+1

Mitch

madkeenreefer 10-14-2010 12:44 AM

Test for copper

daniella3d 10-14-2010 05:29 AM

Hydrometer are horrible and rarely show the real salinity. YOu need to buy a good refractometer. Those on ebay with ATC (auto temperature compensation) are cheap and good.

I suspect either your salinity or water quality is way off or your acclimatation was too drastic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by klee888 (Post 555994)
Hi everyone, I have a bio cube 29 cycled for about 2 months with live rock and live sand first crew introduced yesterday and they all seem to have expired. Ph is 8.3 salinity is within the hydro meters norm. Checked nitrates and nitrites and are all showing 0 or near 0. What could have happened?


klee888 10-14-2010 07:36 AM

Salinity is looking good and ammonia is okay... I will put some carbon in tomorrow see if that helps. I also changed out some water ... I will re-test tomorrow. I don't have a copper test.. will have to find one.

Aquattro 10-14-2010 01:21 PM

You didn't mention how you acclimated them...

If the tank is new, and you haven't used copper, then that is likely not it.

What animals did you add?

klee888 10-14-2010 03:51 PM

floated the bags for 20-30 minutes and then let them go... didnt think that I needed to acclimatize for cleaning crew.

Aquattro 10-14-2010 04:00 PM

Ya, they (depending on type of animal) can be really sensitive to salinity changes, etc. It's recommended that you drip tank water into holding water to equalize parameters. Although, I wouldn't expect everything to die. I have just dumped 50 snails into my tank (long bus ride caused water to foul) and out of 50, I lost a couple.

lastlight 10-14-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klee888 (Post 555994)
Checked nitrates and nitrites and are all showing 0 or near 0.

Which was near zero? The nitrites should be zero.

Wayne 10-14-2010 10:32 PM

To properly acclimate them you need to drip water into there bag or bucket for at least an hour with a drip rate of about 1 drop every 2 seconds or so. I just grabbed some airline tubing and a valve to build my acclamator. If I was doing it again I would find a U shaped ridgid peice to hang off the tank.

FishIsGood2 10-14-2010 11:51 PM

You are just unlucky to buy some nearly-dead snails from the LFS.

Aquattro 10-15-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FishIsGood2 (Post 556309)
You are just unlucky to buy some nearly-dead snails from the LFS.

While that's possible, it's not proabable. The chances of all the critters being near death is unlikely.


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