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:jaw: why can't those paly's be here in Canada :Cry:
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EXTREME!! sooooo awesome!:microwav:
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where abouts are you in the US Cherry? You ship to Jersey?
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I have been looking for those bottom two for a good year plus now, If only it was easier to ship via the states :cry:.
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Is it just me or do the backgrounds seem a little to brilliant? perhaps someone has photoshop'd the colours a bit too much?
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Errrrrr, the backgrounds are brown algea. Coraline is purple, white looks......well, WHITE!
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But for reference I am running all ATI blue plus and I take a wicked photo.
Thats what the thread is about BTW, wicked photo's. Clearly I am not selling anything, I am after all in the U.S.A. and I don't send goodies to Canada. Thank you for your input! |
Oh, to sum up, its just you.
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More corals that are seemingly to brilliant!
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...depalyfull.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...gicianfull.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...aulishfull.jpg Sorry about the purple coraline in that last one, I tried to make it look photoshopped but I just couldn't. |
A different Magicians frag
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...edownbryan.jpg Red Hornets http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...l/redhrnet.jpg Skyhigh's http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...Skyhighs-1.jpg Nice Wellso(there is pink foam under this tank, so don't think I photoshopped the bottom of the tank) http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...l/swellso3.jpg |
This is called Pink Boobies, no clue who named it or why.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...oobysfrag1.jpg Mary Janes http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...l/maryjane.jpg The one on the right is called Space Monsters(again, no clue why) http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...cemonsters.jpg Mind Bender challice http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...mindbender.jpg |
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I'm pretty much a newbie so I might not know what I'm talking about either. LMK Wendell |
It really does not matter if he photo shops his photos if hes not selling them, anyways NICE coral!
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I think the acid is wearing off, these "candy apples" don't look the same!
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4218/cherrylol.jpg Quickly, someone shoot lightning bolts at it! <lightning bolt sound> http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...andyapples.jpg Phew, close one. Almost saved my self a couple hundred bucks. Good thing I have a clue about what I'm talking about. I'm talking lightning and cherries people. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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But then again, Im just a newbie ! Wendell |
Did you remember to strip your EXIF?
How do you make your white balance, when shot manual like that, change in every shot? I'm new at this I would like some tips... So no photoshop massaging wasn't it? LMK2 |
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Fortunately (:neutral:) we don't get to participate in this US market so it's a very different story. He only came on here to share some nice photos, no need to attack the guy regardless of his truthfulness in regards to the photo doctoring. And If you have never seen the Candy Apples in person I wouldn't talk, the coloration is VERY similar to what is shown here. They are one stunning zoa, I would pay a mint to find them local. Levi |
Nice Corals
Nice Corals Todd, really wish we had them up here to sell.
I have had the pleasure of meeting Todd and seeing first hand his corals at a trade show down in the states and I can say that the photos pretty much reflect what they look like in real life under his lighting conditions. Whether he uses PS or not is irrelevant in my opinion as he is here posting for us to enjoy. Shooting photos in a closed system under various degrees of lighting is very difficult and I'm sure Todd is not here to mislead anyone. I've seen other photos (RR) that the whites (ie egg crate) look purple as well as their fingers looking purple but Todd's white balance looks good IMO. He could be shooting his images in RAW and adjusting for white balance post edit, but again; I've seen his corals in person and they are very impressive. Todd has a great reputation for his corals in the States, and he wouldn't be known for it if he was "over marketing" his corals by using PS. Nice pics Todd, keep em coming. Cheers Paul |
Creating buzz for what? I was just sharing some really good photo's.
I visit all the Canadian forums often, I see alot of "blue" thumbs in vendor photo's so its easy to spot a poorly taken photo. I see alot of really really bad photo's to. As important as a crisp photo is post processing. You have to correct the photo, you have to! I make corrections to make a coral look like it looks. I don't give a crap about an exif file, I am well aware that anyone anywhere can analyze my photo's and see what I have done. I didn't say that I don't photoshop, I was offended by the over enhanced comment. That is the part he/she has no clue about. If you run the lights I run, this is what a coral will look like. I could have taken a pic under LED's then you guys would all have been ****ed! So here is what I have done in photoshop: I correct my color temp to 20k(in photoshop this strips out blue) I adjust exposure just in case I was off. I adjust contrast to......add contrast. I sharpen Some photo's get a touch of vibrance Very seldom do I add saturation Oh, and NanoHuman, I hate to tell you but those aren't Candy Apple Reds. They are cool but just a deepwater zoa from China. They are called fruit loops. People still take acid?, that is soooo like 50 years ago. So for reference here is an uncorrected photo. I don't see this with my eye but this is what the camera takes. My main concern is focus and exposure. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...ncorrected.jpg Is this the photo I should post? |
Good point Paul! Sometimes I forget that I do 12 trade shows a year.
Lets see...... MACNA(1500 people) MAX (2000 people) RAP (2000 people) Just to name a few. I am quite confident that all of the people who attend these shows and buy my coral are NOT on acid. Since I am telling all my marketing secrets I will even tell that I use LED's at shows. They are AI's and fully tunable so I can tailer the light source to what my customer is accustomed to. I can go from pure actinic to 10k and all points in between. This helps my customer make an informed decision. |
Let me just say that I have 2 brains from cherry corals don't ask how I got em, but they are the craziest pieces in my tank, I have not seen anything like them in any of our lfs , so all the people ahem retailer cough ! Cough! Making comments are prob just jealous they don't get the cherry picks from vendors here in Canada no pun intended. Please continue posting pics of ur killer corals there are many here in Canada that appreciate it even if we can't get them.
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Gotta say, I'd be a buyer if I was in the states, or if it was easier to get them here! Nice corals, and great pics
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Since this is a Photography Forum, I thought I would chime in as an amateur underwater photographer and the whole PS issue.
I personally see no problem using PS to post process digital stills as this is an integral part of photography. What was once done in a darkroom we now do with software, but the principals remain the same. I shoot all my images in raw and post process any that I print. While I am underwater, I shoot in Manual mode, but I still can't make every adjustment to WB, exposure, ISO and Strobe power exact for each shot. These cameras are optimized for shooting at surface lighting conditions, and the depth of water greatly affects the ambient lighting. I do not remain at the exact same depth during a dive, so I am not able to make every single correction underwater to represent the actual conditions encountered. Similar issues have to be dealt with when shooting under reef lighting as we are trying to recreate the lighting conditions underwater that corals are used to. It may be easier to make the adjustments on the camera when it is not in a bulky housing, but whether you change the WB, exposure, saturation, etc. on your camera or with software, exactly the same thing is happening. Now when sand is green (not from algae :wink:) or egg crate is neon or something, then that is another story. But to criticize a photographer for post processing their images to some degree is not fair, and you should realize that this is not something new since the advent of digital cameras and PS. Many underwater photographers rely on post processing to accurately represent the conditions underwater. Depending on the photo, I may change WB, exposure, contrast, crop, saturation or vibrance slightly. You can tell when a photo is over processed and it doesn't look good. You can also tell when a photo is under processed, and that isn't accurately portraying the scene. Not going to get into vendor ethics photos, but photography is an art and unless someone is purposely misleading people for personal gain, then just enjoy the great shots! Just my opinions as a diver who likes to take pictures. :biggrin: |
Hold on a second, am I to believe the photos in question may not be of actual size!!! THIS IS outrageous, egregious, preposterous..... What next, I suppose Festivus is not a real holiday!!!
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In any event, I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with colour correction and white balancing. It's used all the time in professional photography. There is, however, a fuzzy line where "correction" becomes "enhancement". Whether there's a issue with "enhancement" is a matter of degree. Cherry Corals is entitled to make their stock look as attractive as possible. But (photo-editing technicalities aside) at some point things may give the appearance being too good to be true. And to dumb schmucks like me who according to you, shouldn't be talking, several of the presented photos seem to have reached such a point. If the photos are not enhanced, then fantastic. And good on Cherry Corals for showing an untouched original photo. But the concern is for potential consumers of their product (i.e. people who don't know what they are talking about like me) who may be dissapointed with the real thing after they've paid for them. There have been a lot of instances involving other vendors where great looking corals turn out to be not as great in person. Even if Cherry Corals did not mean for these pictures to create marketing buzz, it sure hasn't hurt them judging by "ooh", "ahh" and "I wish I were in the US" comments on this thread. It's simply free publicity and good marketing on their part. |
I don't know how many different ways I need to say it, if you run lights like mine you will see what I see. Dissapointment will surely arise if you are running 10k. I am always happy to share with my clients my techniques and lighting scheme so they can enjoy what I enjoy.
That being said, I suppose now is the time for you guys to google CC and tell me of all the horror stories. There are none, so in effect I have been pulling the wool over successfully for 4 years now. Coincidence, I don't think so. A little background for most of the photos posted, on another forum a friend and I are having a "photo fight". Just friendly competition really but we both have churned out some sick photos that I have shared here. Google Todd vs. Skyhigh photo fight and you will find it. Its all in good fun. I take my biz seriously. I take killer photo's, I cut around every polyp when fragging. I never bisect a polyp if at all possible and keep my frags looking natural. Its sort of art to me, I understand that alot of shops don't have time for "art" but I do. The only buzz is among you all and not among my potential clients so I am not sure why you guys keep bringing it up. Makes no sense. |
Just for some more fun and to keep the "buzz" going.
Here is the picture I posted earlier, totally accurate and what it looks like in real life(no acid or other drugs involved) http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...gobstoppur.jpg This one is enhanced and I suppose if you were on acid this is what you would see. I have never taken acid so I am only guessing :biggrin: http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...bstoppur-1.jpg |
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Same piece, we sell these for $40 bucks, you didn't save that much and you didn't get Candy Apples. Well played! |
IMHO, I feel that all vendors should specify the conditions the corals are kept in (lighting) and what post editing is done on the pictures, if any. That way there is no guessing. You see it from time to time that customers are unhappy since they perceive that they are not getting the coral as advertised.
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I really enjoyed these pictures over dolled up or not. I frequently drool over the pink boobies on your site :shocked!:: and all the other great peices you have. For what my opinion is worth lets see some more pictures.
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Well thank you for the benefit of the doubt, It was in no way meant as an insult just trying to prove a point. Out of curiosity have you had the privilege of seeing this species in person?
Todd is representing them in a very truthful manor, they are a stunning strain of zoa in person and sometimes photos don't do them justice. Cameras are not designed to accurately take photos through water, this is where an editing program comes in to properly depict the coral. That being said I do 100% agree with you on the fuzzy line comment, In this situation I know the line has not been crossed. Quote:
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And Todd out of curiosity what price do you sell the candy apples for?
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I'll be the first of the 'dissidents' to agree that the corals are amazing pieces, that is not in arguable territory, the pictures are also very well taken and there is no complaint with that however...
The calling out of a member here for a legitimate if not politically delivered comment in the fashion that occurred is the issue that some of us have made comments in protest to. It was uncalled for and inappropriate especially in view of the fact that he was right...:lol: However thankfully none of our lives will really change for the better or worse following this little distraction... |
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