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Reef-Geek 08-30-2010 10:37 PM

where to get RO/DI water?
 
I heard this kind water all the time, do u need to buy and install a water filter in the kitchen to do it?

Veng68 08-30-2010 10:41 PM

Many sponsors on this site sell RO/DI units.

You can attach them to your faucet (bathroom or kitchen) inline (permanent) or have a faucet attachment (portable).

Go on one of the vendor sites and check out what they have and some of the sites will explain the filters.

Cheers,
Vic

Reef-Geek 08-30-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veng68 (Post 545095)
Many sponsors on this site sell RO/DI units.

You can attach them to your faucet (bathroom or kitchen) inline (permanent) or have a faucet attachment (portable).

Go on one of the vendor sites and check out what they have and some of the sites will explain the filters.

Cheers,
Vic

Thanks for the quick response, I only have a 34 gallon tank in my condo so I don't want to buy the filtration unit, I checked with JL and they don't sell RO water, where else can I just but the RO water?

Veng68 08-30-2010 10:46 PM

So supermarkets sell it........ but I would test the water......... you never know how often they change the filters.

for our water you can always get a simple DI unit. With out low TDS the DI will last a long time.

Cheers,
Vic

Reef-Geek 08-30-2010 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veng68 (Post 545100)
So supermarkets sell it........ but I would test the water......... you never know how often they change the filters.

for our water you can always get a simple DI unit. With out low TDS the DI will last a long time.

Cheers,
Vic

I actually has a water filter from microclear (http://microclear.ca/microfiltration.html) ,is that consider RO water?
what does them looks like?
what does the RO water look like in supermarkets?
Thanks

Veng68 08-30-2010 10:59 PM

Look like you have just a normal drinking water filter. RO units have the water pass through an RO membrane.

In the super market look for where you get bottled water. They should have a machine that you can fill a container. Make sure it's RO water and not just filtered water.

In the long run you may want to get an RO filter because of the cost of getting the water from the super market. You can get a pretty cheap RO unit for around $120.

Cheers,
Vic

globaldesigns 08-30-2010 11:05 PM

supermarkets sell RO water, some have bottled water, others have the actual filler, so you can fill your old bottles. But you never know how old the filters in the machine are.

Personally, the amount you pay for the bottles or filling your own would pay for your filtration unit in no time. Then you don't have to worry about buying it, just make as needed.

DiverDude 08-31-2010 02:00 AM

+1 on this. I used supermarket water to get setup on my 28 Gal and it cost me $50 ! You then need several gallons every week for water changes etc. Before you know it, you'll be way over the cost of a simple RO filter system.

Be smart, buy one right up front and save your money.

Oh, and the quality of supermarket water can very dramatically. You will quickly find that having your own system (where you can control the quality) is worth a LOT if you've got algae problems from bad water.

scherzo 08-31-2010 05:16 AM

There are tonnes of sites and webpages with this topic. You can search for making RO/DI water in google and you will find many sites with information.

I'll tell you what I know to summarize what I've read. It sounds like you're new to this.

We filter water to make sure that it is as PURE AS POSSIBLE before we put it in our tanks. That way we can make sure there aren't any unwanted nutrients or things that may harm our tanks.

From my experience the water in the lower mainland of Vancouver is extremely good. Especially in areas that are close to the water sheds or have access to Vancouver's new water filtration system (coming from Capilano and Seymour watersheds). Our TDS is quite often as low as 15-or 10 PPM (0 is ideal).

You can get a DI (De-Ionization) filter which creates NO WASTE WATER for pretty cheap at J&L. Mine last about 12 months before I need to replace them ($35 for the replacement)

For the ultimate in water purity you can get a Reverse Osmosis (or RO) filter. This pushes the water through some filters and a membrane to clean the water. The water that is "BAD" is discarded through a hose and down the drain. Many systems also put a DI (De-Ionization) filter that further cleans the water. This is how you end up with RO/DI water. (These filters cost about $150-$300 depending on the system)

Then add salt and then add it to your aquarium.

You can get RO water from the grocery store. I would test it just to make sure it is ok. As others have said, who knows how often they clean their filters.

I've always used a DI filter. I will likely get a RO/DI filter soon as I have been looking into it. I'm not sure why. I'm always saying that our water here is so clean we don't really need it. But, I've been looking into it lately. Just for insurance.

There you go. My long post which has postponed my inevitable list of house work to be done tonight.

Reef-Geek 08-31-2010 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scherzo (Post 545192)
There are tonnes of sites and webpages with this topic. You can search for making RO/DI water in google and you will find many sites with information.

I'll tell you what I know to summarize what I've read. It sounds like you're new to this.

We filter water to make sure that it is as PURE AS POSSIBLE before we put it in our tanks. That way we can make sure there aren't any unwanted nutrients or things that may harm our tanks.

From my experience the water in the lower mainland of Vancouver is extremely good. Especially in areas that are close to the water sheds or have access to Vancouver's new water filtration system (coming from Capilano and Seymour watersheds). Our TDS is quite often as low as 15-or 10 PPM (0 is ideal).

You can get a DI (De-Ionization) filter which creates NO WASTE WATER for pretty cheap at J&L. Mine last about 12 months before I need to replace them ($35 for the replacement)

For the ultimate in water purity you can get a Reverse Osmosis (or RO) filter. This pushes the water through some filters and a membrane to clean the water. The water that is "BAD" is discarded through a hose and down the drain. Many systems also put a DI (De-Ionization) filter that further cleans the water. This is how you end up with RO/DI water. (These filters cost about $150-$300 depending on the system)

Then add salt and then add it to your aquarium.

You can get RO water from the grocery store. I would test it just to make sure it is ok. As others have said, who knows how often they clean their filters.

I've always used a DI filter. I will likely get a RO/DI filter soon as I have been looking into it. I'm not sure why. I'm always saying that our water here is so clean we don't really need it. But, I've been looking into it lately. Just for insurance.

There you go. My long post which has postponed my inevitable list of house work to be done tonight.

That's very valuable info, thanks
will you please recommand a RO filter for me under 200 bucks? or do u think just use DI filter is enough,can u please post a link to the one you bought from JL? I am in North Burnaby and do u know how is the water quality?

Veng68 08-31-2010 07:06 AM

Water in the GVRD is supplied by 3 reservoirs so the water quality is quite similar. We get a TDS around 15-20ppm.

You can go RO and add the DI unit later or you can go with DI only.

Check any of the vendors and you will find something under $200 that fits your needs.

Cheers,
Vic

gobytron 08-31-2010 02:07 PM

just snag one of these

http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/ro...er+Filter.html

I've used this for almost 8 years now with no issues whatsoever.


for the small tank or the frugal enthusiast.

globaldesigns 08-31-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 545236)
just snag one of these

http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/ro...er+Filter.html

I've used this for almost 8 years now with no issues whatsoever.


for the small tank or the frugal enthusiast.

That is a neat little unit, it doesn't say the GPD (Gallons per day) or how to replace the internals (or can you?)

Is this a disposable unit? Very neat.

fkshiu 08-31-2010 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globaldesigns (Post 545254)
That is a neat little unit, it doesn't say the GPD (Gallons per day) or how to replace the internals (or can you?)

Is this a disposable unit? Very neat.

You can replace the DI cartridge which is about 85% of the price anyway. It is essentially a DI filter and it works great on our low TDS Vancouver water. It is perfect for the smaller tank around the Lower Mainland. I used one for years on my 46 gallon. You'll need a bit of patience for anything larger.

Be aware, however, that unlike a full out RO/DI unit this thing cannot deal with turbidity and particulate matter very well. I often found that its output slowed even before the DI beads were exhausted because its small foam filter pad was clogged. And unlike a modular RO/DI unit everything is in one single cartridge that you have to replace in one shot.

I was also wary of the city injecting extra chlorine into the water after a heavy storm since it can ruin DI beads. On a full RO/DI unit you've got multiple layers of protection to deal with extra chlorine before it gets to the DI. On this unit all you've got is a thin layer of carbon, I think.

I know that OA used only DI filtration for quite a while when they started up, so this is a good way to go until you upgrade to a bigger tank.

gobytron 09-01-2010 03:46 PM

they recently made some small improvements to the design, like thicker filter floss on both ends and slightly larger washers that seem to have resolved a lot of te issues with turbidity.

I actually use this thing for all my tanks...maybe 200 gallons in total and daisy chain 2 of them when the tds is up from the tap, which is rarely.

Est this at about 5 gallons and hour...lol

The replacement cartridges are http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/ro...Cartridge.html

Sean 09-01-2010 08:22 PM

That is a neat little unit, I live in calgary and run to the store to get my water, but lately iv been slipping and not wanting to change the water as often. Do you think one of those would work with Calgary's water, or should i just pay the extra for a full RO unit.

Veng68 09-01-2010 08:31 PM

Sean........ I think RO/DI would work better for you because Calgary has harder water then Vancouver and you will be going through cartridges if DI quick.

Cheers,
Vic

Sean 09-01-2010 08:53 PM

Sounds good thanks!

gobytron 09-01-2010 08:53 PM

technically, this unit IS and RO/DI unit and I would be very surprised if it didn't give you a better tds reading than water from the store...

fkshiu 09-01-2010 09:13 PM

I think what Vic means is that since the OP is in Calgary that has far higher TDS than Vancouver, the DI beads in the AP Tap Water Filter would exhaust far more quickly than on extremely soft Vancouver water. As a result, using that filter in Calgary would be less economical.

gobytron 09-01-2010 09:14 PM

chances are you'd still come out ahead over buying the H20 retail...

Veng68 09-01-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 545590)
I think what Vic means is that since the OP is in Calgary that has far higher TDS than Vancouver, the DI beads in the AP Tap Water Filter would exhaust far more quickly than on extremely soft Vancouver water. As a result, using that filter in Calgary would be less economical.

Yup........ I've heard some people get around 300 gallons using the tap water filter in our 15ppm water

I think Calgary averages 160ppm.

Cheers,
Vic

Ourfishies 09-06-2010 02:34 AM

filter change
 
How often do you have to change the filter of these Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Tap Water Filter?

fkshiu 09-06-2010 05:59 AM

It depends on how much you use them and the quality of your water. On super-soft Vancouver water, I usually got at least a couple hundred gallons before the beads changed colour.

Lampshade 09-06-2010 06:50 AM

Township of Langley does yearly testing they post on their website, newest shown is 2009, but it gives a decent overview of the crap in your water.
ToL Water Report

Reef-Geek 09-10-2010 03:18 PM

Has any one tried with water in Canadian Tire? they seem like RO water contains 0 minerals, for $4.99 you can 5 gallon. I only have a 34 gallon RSM so I think I'll change 5 gallon every 2 weeks, is that gonna be ok?
or does any one recommand water from super store or walmart?

Lampshade 09-10-2010 03:27 PM

That works, but $10 a month is $120 over a year, so in 1 year you've pain for a half decent R/O unit.. and also don't have to go to canadian tire to get water. Lower startup cost though, and that's usualy the expencive part.

frd72 09-10-2010 04:45 PM

when i have my 33 g, i survive by using DI tap water filter good for few months use.. but if you are planning to get bigger invest on a used or new RO/DI units less hassle in the end..:lol:

Reef-Geek 09-10-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampshade (Post 547388)
That works, but $10 a month is $120 over a year, so in 1 year you've pain for a half decent R/O unit.. and also don't have to go to canadian tire to get water. Lower startup cost though, and that's usualy the expencive part.

for a regular 5 stage ro/di filter, how long does the filter media last? and how much to buy the new medias? Thanks

gobytron 09-10-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frd72 (Post 547411)
when i have my 33 g, i survive by using DI tap water filter good for few months use.. but if you are planning to get bigger invest on a used or new RO/DI units less hassle in the end..:lol:

you never replace your membranes or media??

sems like you would need to consider that cost per month as well IMO...

gobytron 09-10-2010 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shingo43 (Post 547385)
Has any one tried with water in Canadian Tire? they seem like RO water contains 0 minerals, for $4.99 you can 5 gallon. I only have a 34 gallon RSM so I think I'll change 5 gallon every 2 weeks, is that gonna be ok?
or does any one recommand water from super store or walmart?

you cant sit there and say walmasrt is good or cdn tire is good...
It comes down to how the staff are maintaining their filters and this is not subject to store names...so your experience at each location could vary greatly.

Buy a TDS meter, they actually sell them pretty cheap at canadian tire...lol

and just test yourself before you buy.

scherzo 09-11-2010 02:22 AM

I'd also suggest getting a TDS meter. Much better at figuring out if you need to change your cartridge or not.

Also, from a water conservation standpoint. I like the DI unit because it doesn't produce any waste water. We have very low TDS so I'm sticking to my DI for a while. I've actually budgeted for a BRS RO/DI unit but I'm still deciding if I want to create waste water that just gets dumped... it makes me feel bad..

I get a TDS as low as 8ppm.. most days it is about 14 or 15. I'm about 2 kms from the Coquitlam watershed so I'm lucky that way...

romin the furniture man 05-08-2011 10:30 AM

call me at 604-908-6009 for free RO/DI water.

Cheers,

Romin

romin the furniture man 05-13-2011 05:31 AM

FREE water
 
I hope this 2nd message finds you.

You can pick up your FREE RO/DI water from me.

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Call me at 604-908-6009 anytime after 9:30 AM.

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narhay 07-15-2011 07:41 PM

I've been using Vancouver's tap water for quite some time now and I have no algae and my SPS have better colour than when I bought them. I wouldn't worry about an RO/DI to be honest.


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