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Polscot 07-14-2010 10:24 PM

Biocube29 from mantis tank to Clown heaven
 
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so i decided to make a mantis tank with other unwanted predators,

started with a 10g tank, ive got a 178 skimmer attacked to it for a ton of flow, so far inside theres 2 big gorilla crabs, (1.5" little one and 2" big one) i got some shots of the crabs,
mantis is being brought down to calgary this weekend via a canreef friend so ill get seom pics of it when it arrives

there a 20lbs bag of live sand, and about 10lbs of live rock, a large macro plant (dont know the name) bout 2lbs of crushed white coral pieces for looks.....

n e ways heres the pics

there in the order from when the tank started to the final,

Ive im the process of transfering into a 29g Biocube and building a custom rock/foam rock wall see final pages
oh, some of my close ups suck if u got advise on how to take pics id love to hear it :)

Polscot 07-14-2010 10:27 PM

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Polscot 07-14-2010 10:39 PM

oh and if your in calgary and u end up getting bad HH so any type of crab let me know ill gladly drive out and grab it instead of u killing it.

Wingin It 07-14-2010 11:38 PM

You can upload your pics to sites like photobucket.com and then attach the links they provide for the forum.
Interesting concept...I'll tag along ;)
Maybe someday i'll catch the nasty crab that's in my tank...and you'll have yet another crab. :) all I know is he's White and fast! I affectionately call him, 'my little buddy', but really, i don't want him in there.

Polscot 07-15-2010 12:35 AM

easiest way to catch himm depending on size, take a shot glass, put his favotrite food in it and sink it inot the sand, he'll go in but cant swing and therfore cant get out :)......

xtreme 07-15-2010 12:38 AM

Photobucket is free to sign up on. You need it or some other image hosting site in order for your pics to be displayed in the thread like you want.

Polscot 07-15-2010 12:48 AM

tank

xtreme 07-15-2010 01:03 AM

http://register.photobucket.com/

Says it is free on my computer...

Polscot 07-15-2010 02:03 AM

ok

Polscot 07-15-2010 02:14 AM

rock
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159553
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159553
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159553
the crushed coral
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159553
algae
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159627
the algae and main rock
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159627
side shot
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159627
Front tank show, this is the final product
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159627
one of th 2 crabs


http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279159627

coreyskylar 07-15-2010 03:00 AM

White stuff!
 
That is some nice white stuff, what is it, and where can i get some?

Polscot 07-15-2010 04:01 AM

i acctually got it off ebay, just look up bleached white coral, and some will show up, it was a giant piece that i smashed, cant wait to get the mantis in here hes gunna love it

Greenmaster 07-15-2010 06:49 AM

Interesting concept I'll tag along... it could be like a gladiator ring at some point in the future...:lol: someone has some fish or hitchhiker they are going to flush and instead you add it to your tank... video the battles for me wont you :D

Polscot 07-19-2010 01:39 AM

ive been trying to get good photos of the crabs but my camera just isnt focusing, its getting clear shots of everything but the crabs lol, but oh well, ill keep trying heres a few, i gave them some scallops......turns out these guys are real vicious....the one ripped the others arm off and took it and the scallop lol

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279503617
u can really see the red eyes

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279503649

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279503671

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279503691

Greenmaster 07-19-2010 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 535770)
ive been trying to get good photos of the crabs but my camera just isnt focusing, its getting clear shots of everything but the crabs lol, but oh well, ill keep trying heres a few, i gave them some scallops......turns out these guys are real vicious....the one ripped the others arm off and took it and the scallop lol

u can really see the red eyes

I can't really see anything... maybe try to take a larger image then crop it... stand back a little... or if your camera lets you manual focus you should try that.

Polscot 07-20-2010 05:27 AM

these are a lill better green, ill bait them out tomoro and get some good ones, this is the bigger guy, he has all his arms and legs lol

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279603568

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279603628

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279603645

Greenmaster 07-20-2010 05:35 AM

right on :)

Polscot 07-21-2010 01:51 AM

new pics of big hairy nig
 
alright i baited the big crab out, (hes missing an arm the little one took it)
hes on his pearch eating some scallop, still trying to locate a mantis shrimp fo rthe tank but for now these guys add a lil humour

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279676903

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279676926

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279676991

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279677030

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279677057

ok, green can u see the red in the eyes now :)?

Greenmaster 07-21-2010 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 536389)
alright i baited the big crab out, (hes missing an arm the little one took it)
hes on his pearch eating some scallop, still trying to locate a mantis shrimp fo rthe tank but for now these guys add a lil humour

ok, green can u see the red in the eyes now :)?

He's killer... the one armed bandit! :D

Polscot 07-21-2010 08:36 PM

Found a mantis!!!!!
 
i made a call today to red coral on a whim, and asked if by chance they found any mantis shrimp hh, turns out they had one, a black one with reddish tail, i jumped on it when i got him home and under proper lighting i realised how gorgeous he really is, i think hes a smithii (if anyone can tell me positive ID great)

NE ways heres some pics of him getting ready to be put in the tank, ill take more pics tonight

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279744375
in the bag
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279744408
you can see some of the colors
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279744435

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279744453

not super clear but hes looking up so u can see the green/orange spots on his raptoral arms
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1279744528

let me know what u think

AHHope 07-22-2010 12:05 AM

im happy you found a mantis. that guy there is a Gonodactylaceus ternatensis. Quite suited for an aquarium but they get over 10cm so you will have to upgrade in the future. Good luck with the mantis.

Greenmaster 07-22-2010 12:20 AM

He looks awesome. I want one lol

Polscot 07-22-2010 12:32 AM

right on, thanx andrew for the ID, when he gets too big ill come down and get a 30g cube :) untill then ill keep posting my progress with him, still dont know a name,

Polscot 07-22-2010 01:32 AM

so far he is about 2 inchest long, real small, the gorilla crabs are bigger, a toonie for the larger and a loonie for the smaller (including legs) will he be alright i know later on he'll ear them but i dont want them to hurt hm at this stage in the game

Polscot 07-29-2010 02:12 AM

Updates
 
the macro algae i got is starting to grow like a weed so thats good maybe ill sell some :P the mantis is real timid so far so hes very hard to get shots of, hes almost wipped out my cleaning crew of 10 hermits lol so ill have to buy more, once he gets bigger and comes out more it'll be easier to get more pics, so untill then heres some shots of the crab, and my turbo snail "cooter"

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280369431

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280369451
"cooter"
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280369475

the "one armed bandit" eating some scallop
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280369495

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280369530

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280369547

Greenmaster 07-29-2010 02:29 AM

I love the pics :D most posts are like one pic every 2 months... keep em coming, I like the bandit.

Polscot 08-01-2010 02:28 PM

got a few picks of ther 2 armed crab and some of the mantis in his hole, ive gotten go to red coral today to pick up another clean up crew (hermits $2 each great deal) hes eaten 6 of the 10 i had lol, i also feed him cut up scallop every second day

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280672776

here the mantis eyes
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280672776

comming out to see what kinda food i got
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280672776

almost fully out minus tail u can see some of the colors,
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1280672776

Greenmaster 08-01-2010 05:13 PM

That looks so cool I with they were reef safe :p

Polscot 08-01-2010 06:44 PM

they acctually are reef safe, there not as bad as everyone says they are, the most ud lose is the odd clean up crew (there cheap so who cares), specially if u keep him feed every second day, which is fun to do, aahope has a reef bio cube with one in it and its fine, and the local FS has a massive 100g reef with a smithii in it and ud never be able to tell, there really not that destructive (AS LOGN AS U GET A SMASHER) as spearers kill fish

Polscot 08-21-2010 02:59 AM

some frontal shots of Vader
 
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282359275
i taunted him out a lil with some food, hes gone throuhg 1 molt and has grown about an inch, hes about 2.5" long now, it'll be nice once he reaches full size at 4" so he wont hide so much
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282359370

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282359397

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282359464

Polscot 08-22-2010 06:08 PM

went out and got some more macro algae, i love the look of it and it helps clean the water and fight off micro algae, i also got a couple fish they are clown yellow gobys, only $7 each so if they get eaten i wont freak, plus there cool looking.

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282500133

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282500211

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282500226

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282500258

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282500372

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282500391

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1282500471

Polscot 09-06-2010 06:47 PM

29G biocube build/transfer
 
so i recently got a 29g biocube as the mantis is getting bigger and i got a good deal so i figured id get it b4 he outgrows the 10g, im in the process of building a custom back wall and gutting the back to make a refugium.....ill be posting pics as i progress, ill be setting up using 10g of the old water and 20g from Red coral along with turning it into a reef eventually n e ways heres the progress

Tank was dirty so im cleaning it in a vinegar bath

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798390

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798401

stand was a lil rough so ill fix it right up

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798497

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798527

The lights were both burned out, but considering how cheap i got it i was more then happy with spending $80 on 2 new ones

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798613

Start of the rock/foam DIY wall i cut out eggcrate into the shape of the back of the tank

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798540

cut holes out for the intake and outtake

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798577

i then cut out shapes goal was 3 ledges, top one will be for a Brain (always wanted one) middle one will be for a clam my gf wants to buy
and bottom will be for n e thing else, maybe a favia not sure....

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798740

inside FTS i put two pieces on the bottom in a right angle mannor that i will stack live rock on, to weigh down the wall and keep it stable and less likley to collapse

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798754

Side shot shows the 3 ledges

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283798820

Polscot 09-06-2010 09:10 PM

rock
 
just picked up 30lbs of dead rock from a fellow reefer, so im cleaning it in a bleach bath then ill scrub it with a wire brush then bake at 400 for an hour or more to make sure the bleach is all evaporated, 30lbs dry is alot more then wet so ima have to figure out a aquascape cause there ALOT of rock.....

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283807389

you can tell there was some fantastic coralline algae on this rock its to bad its been out of water for so long so its all dead and smelly

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283807400

Skimmerking 09-06-2010 11:10 PM

and its in the bath tub mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

wow you got big $#%^$%!:lol:

Polscot 09-06-2010 11:41 PM

the bath tub i only put 1 cup of bleach to loosen up the algae, i then used a bbq brush to scrap off as much die off as i could, then into the oven for 1 hour at 400, when it came out it was alot whiter. I dont want to take any chances so im going to do a full out clean on the rock its now in a 50/50 bleach bath (ina syrafoam container) for 2 days then ill drain and put in freshwater for 1 day, then a baking soda bath for 2 days (neutralises PH and removes bleach) then freshwater for 2 more days followed by a week of drying lol. so 2 weeks essentially to get this rock ready but by that time my refugeum lights and skimmer should have arrived and ill get this tank ready to roll.....

heres the 50/50 bleach bath

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283816417

starting to get super white and clean,

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283816430

AHHope 09-07-2010 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 538903)
they acctually are reef safe, there not as bad as everyone says they are, the most ud lose is the odd clean up crew (there cheap so who cares), specially if u keep him feed every second day, which is fun to do, aahope has a reef bio cube with one in it and its fine, and the local FS has a massive 100g reef with a smithii in it and ud never be able to tell, there really not that destructive (AS LOGN AS U GET A SMASHER) as spearers kill fish


Im happy someone finally has the same views as me towards mantises. The one i have in my reef i dont even spot feed he just grabes scraps as they flot by. You really need to learn there specific tastes in food. My smithii will only hunt down crabs but leaves shrimps and snails alone so i keep him in there to pick off any hitch hikers that are gonna munch on coral. The only conflict i ever see is when he chases my orange spotted blenny out of his hole. Congrats on a great mantis and hopefully more people will start seeing the good sides of them.

Greenmaster 09-07-2010 02:58 AM

One thing about the rock wall... I hear of a lot of them that float. The best way to weigh them down is with tile, slate or marble slabs in the base of the structure. And compress the foam a bit as well... after you spray it on then you wait till it's started to dry then press it down to get some of the air out and take away some of the buoyancy.

Polscot 09-07-2010 10:17 AM

cool, thanx for the info green i try compressing it for sure, im also gunna be putting about 10lbs of rock on the wall so that should help weigh it down also

Greenmaster 09-07-2010 11:55 AM

I still recommend that you put either tile, slate, or marble on the base. Although I have seen people glue their rock wall to the glass and that works as well.

Polscot 09-08-2010 12:17 AM

went to ocean city today to grab some purigen and chemi pure, and i stumbled across this lil anemone it was SUPER cheap and i was going to eventually buy one, so i picked it up, its sitting in my edge right now untill i get the biocube set up, my clowns will love it

Green bubble tip bout the size of a loonie
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283905012

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1283905028


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