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bignose 06-27-2010 05:31 AM

single ended bulbs vs. double ended bulbs
 
Never had MH light before and I was wondering what the difference between the two kinds. Pros/Cons.

fkshiu 06-27-2010 05:37 AM

SE pros:
-higher PAR output (because no tempered glass shield is required)
-slightly greatly light spread
-easier to install than DE

DE pros:
-compact size
-easier to clean salt spray off of (because of the tempered glass shield)

It used to be that there was a greater variety of SE bulbs, but that's no longer true although many DE guys still long for the day that Radium comes out with a DE bulb.

bignose 06-27-2010 05:42 AM

Is it harder to get SE bulbs?

burrows14 06-27-2010 05:51 AM

Im switching from DE to Se at the moment myself mainly for the radium bulb. If radium had a DE bulb I dont think I would make the switch.

fkshiu 06-27-2010 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bignose (Post 530609)
Is it harder to get SE bulbs?

Nope

bignose 06-27-2010 05:58 AM

any thoughts on degenbao fixtures?(probably seen the ad)

lastlight 06-27-2010 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 530607)
many DE guys still long for the day that Radium comes out with a DE bulb.

Not THIS guy =) Although I'm only rocking 150w it's DE Radium. I love this bulb!

Having said that...when I upgrade I'll be right back to 250w SE to keep the Radium glow alive. Not sure how easy that will be now that nobody is making an M80 ballast to my knowledge.

burrows14 06-27-2010 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 530617)
Not THIS guy =) Although I'm only rocking 150w it's DE Radium. I love this bulb!

Having said that...when I upgrade I'll be right back to 250w SE to keep the Radium glow alive. Not sure how easy that will be now that nobody is making an M80 ballast to my knowledge.

Aqua medic is producing the reeflex cube that is a true m80 mag ballast and its pretty cool looking IMO

lastlight 06-27-2010 06:54 AM

Well that's tasty news indeed. I had heard the actual main manufacturer of those ballasts (Blue waves and PFO used them) had ceased production. Good news!

burrows14 06-27-2010 07:00 AM

heres a link and sorry for the thread hijack lol

http://www.aqua-medic.com/reeflex_ma..._ballast.shtml

whatcaneyedo 06-27-2010 05:01 PM

A typical DE setup usually sucks more electricity as well as magnetic ballasts overdrive the bulbs making them burn brighter (which also reduces their usable lifespan).

On the plus side though there is the Phoenix 14K that isn't available in SE unless you count Aquaconnect's bulb which costs a lot more.

Even if you do go SE I feel it is still important to use a glass shield. Last year two people on this site reported large losses in their tanks when some water was splashed onto their unguarded SE bulbs causing them to explode... With a shield in place on both types DE would then be the bulb type that produces higher PAR.

With all things considered I'd probably buy SE if I were to purchase new pendants again. Mainly because most reflectors seem to be designed for them and produce a more even distribution when they are used.

burrows14 06-27-2010 06:48 PM

phoenix now has their 14k bulb available in 175w and 250w SE

whatcaneyedo 06-27-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burrows14 (Post 530716)
phoenix now has their 14k bulb available in 175w and 250w SE

Cool. Does anyone in Canada sell it?

burrows14 06-27-2010 07:06 PM

Not that I know of yet. I think they have only been out a couple of months. I am sure that we will see them soon.

http://premiumaquatics.com/store/mer...y_Code=mh-250w


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