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Aqua-Digital 06-19-2010 03:53 PM

GHL dosers NOW starting at $359.00!!!
 
We are very pleased to announce that GHL dosers will be reduced in price due to the lower Euro.

The GHL SA dosers are renowned for being the industry leading built in controller doser, not only are they bullet proof in design and build, they are quiet, 100% serviceable but also fully expandable in one pump stage increments. Backed by a 2 year warranty, the SA doser has always been the 1st choice on everyones list when looking for a doser.

http://progressivereef.com/prodimage...adosing-lg.gif
Picture shows 4 pump version fully configured

New retail prices as follows

SA2 = $359.00 (down from $419.00)
SA3 = $399.00 (down from $485.00)
SA4 = $474.00 (down from $555.00)

Simply awesome prices for the best doser in the industry!!!

So now when considering a doser think about these questions

1. How expandable is the unit, can i just add one extra pump?
Yes to GHL
2. Is the warranty two years for the main unit?
Yes to GHL
3. Is the warranty for the pumps 1 year or only 6 months
GHL = 1 Year
4. Can you get spare pumps if one expires after warranty
YES to GHL
5. Can you service the unit yourself
YES to GHL
6. Is there a one touch manual overide
YES to GHL
7. Can you dose in 1ml increments
YES to GHL
8. Can you dose in timed increments
YES to GHL
9. Is every part German made
YES to GHL
10. Will you ever stock BM dosers?
Not until they release spares for them, this is highly important, at present if a pump fails on a BM doser your a bit stuck to say the least!
11. GHL spares - where can i get them
At any authorised dealer.

GHL SA3 doser the most sold doser now $399? Not bad EH ;)

Please allow dealers time to adjust online pricing so contact them directly in the interim.

mark 06-19-2010 05:04 PM

the questions you put up for the GHL, can you answer them for the BM?

Aqua-Digital 06-19-2010 05:46 PM

Sure

So for this is the same questions BUT for the Bubble magus doser

1. How expandable is the unit, can i just add one extra pump?
No you have to buy the slave unit which has 4 pumps so you can either have a 3 pump unit or 7 pump or 11.
2. Is the warranty two years for the main unit?
No its 1 year
3. Is the warranty for the pumps 1 year or only 6 months
As the pumps are not available there is no warranty on them
4. Can you get spare pumps if one expires after warranty
No as above
5. Can you service the unit yourself
No as above
6. Is there a one touch manual overide
NO
7. Can you dose in 1ml increments
YES
8. Can you dose in timed increments
YES
9. Is every part German made
No all made by seperate company for Bubble magus in China
10. Will you ever stock BM dosers?
Not until they release spares for them, this is highly important, at present if a pump fails on a BM doser your a bit stuck to say the least!
11. BM DOSER spares - where can i get them
No where at present.

shrimpchips 06-19-2010 10:26 PM

Will prices change for the slave dosers? I already have a SA 4 pump doser, and I might be looking to add some more pumps :)

Aqua-Digital 06-19-2010 11:01 PM

Yes we have given all price reductions to be heavily weighted on the most popular item - the dosers

Prices for slaves to follow ;)

shrimpchips 06-20-2010 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 528924)
Prices for slaves to follow ;)

Is that the trend lately for aquarium automation? Amnesty is going to be onto you :D

Aqua-Digital 06-20-2010 01:59 PM

I think we are all slaves to our tanks one way or another :redface:

:lol:

Aqua-Digital 06-28-2010 07:38 PM

Other GHL doser prices to follow today!!!

andestang 07-03-2010 06:13 AM

Any update yet for the slave pricing drop and how soon it will be for the pricing to take effect ? I've been told Sept.

Aqua-Digital 07-03-2010 11:38 AM

I should have an answer this week coming, there has been a hold on all price drops since the Euro rallied last week by 100 base points!

In simple terms 100 euro went from $124.00CAD to $136CAD huge increase, so we need to lock into a forward contract to secure the pricing.

kodadad 09-15-2010 04:15 PM

Any update on the stand alone prices?

Aqua-Digital 09-15-2010 04:18 PM

Yes, this was announced a while back on here, but there has been a small update since

Until the end of September the SA3 is $399 down from $485 and the SA4 is $499 down from $555.

All prices will increase in line with GHL announced manufacturer price increases as of 1st October.

Not all dealers are advertising these prices so please call to enquire. Largest stock holding at present is at progressive reef.

gucci17 10-27-2010 03:04 PM

Have the prices increased for the standalone dosers?

Where can I find these units for sale in the GTA?

TIA

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 03:10 PM

Prices came down and went back up a bit, this was a reaction to the tumble seen in the Euro over the summer.

When the Euro drops we react making sure clients are not over paying, however when it goes back up we can not always maintain those levels

The SA3 doser is between $399 and $449 right now, stock holding dealers have them at $399 as they purchased when the Euro was low, once this stock has sold it will be at $449 which is still $40 cheaper than the price at the beginning of the year.

One thing is for sure you are buying probably the best doser on the market with its stainless steel shafted motors, 2 year warranty and fully upgradeable, expandable in one pump increments and servicable.

GTA - Oakville reef gallery.

gucci17 10-27-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 559685)
Prices came down and went back up a bit, this was a reaction to the tumble seen in the Euro over the summer.

When the Euro drops we react making sure clients are not over paying, however when it goes back up we can not always maintain those levels

The SA3 doser is between $399 and $449 right now, stock holding dealers have them at $399 as they purchased when the Euro was low, once this stock has sold it will be at $449 which is still $40 cheaper than the price at the beginning of the year.

One thing is for sure you are buying probably the best doser on the market with its stainless steel shafted motors, 2 year warranty and fully upgradeable, expandable in one pump increments and servicable.

GTA - Oakville reef gallery.

Thank you for your quick response. I will have to check them out.

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 03:27 PM

If no go then progressive reef is stocked to the walls with them and Red Coral stores have them also at this price, I think also do Reef Shoppe if not sold out

TRS 10-27-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 559690)
If no go then progressive reef is stocked to the walls with them and Red Coral stores have them also at this price, I think also do Reef Shoppe if not sold out

Yes, THE REEF SHOPPE still has a few of the GHL PROFILUX 4-HEAD SA DOSERS in stock. :wink:

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 04:00 PM

These can be downgraded to 3 pump by simply removing the 4th pump also ;)

andestang 10-27-2010 06:11 PM

A little disappointed that the 3 head slave unit is only $30 cheaper than the SA.

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 07:10 PM

Based on the Fall pricing there is a $50 difference between the SA and slave. I am sure people who want the SA are quite pleased that the SA is not more expensive and does not come with an inflated price tag.

The price between the two is no more than the cost of a PCB, (dependant on model due to price offest with the amount of components required) so to put the price up of the SA would be unreasonable for the client, and the slave is priced accordingly to the quality components used.

MRSP as follows

Dosing Unit 2, USA/CD dosing pump unit, with 2 pumps
$320.49
Dosing Unit 3, USA/CD dosing pump unit, with 3 pumps
$392.49
Dosing Unit 4, USA/CD dosing pump unit, with 4 pumps
$465.95

Dosing Unit SA 2, USA/CND dosing pump unit
$436.49
Dosing Unit SA 3, USA/CND dosing pump unit
$449.49
Dosing Unit SA 4, USA/CND dosing pump unit
$516.49

Quality of components used is important in a doser, yes there are cheaper units, however when buying hardware it is important to buy once and not have to worry in a year or 18 months you have to replace the whole thing, all of a sudden that bargain is no longer a bargain when you have to bin it.

GHL
German stainless steel shafted DC motors
Servicable pumps
2 year warranty on unit (motors 1 year)
1 year warranty on motors (most units have 6 months or none)
pumps - service item
increment upgradable, meaning if you buy a 2 pumo unit you can upgrade it to a 3 pump and so on right up to 8 pump for SA and 24 for slave in conjunction with GHL controller.
Client repairable in the event of accidental soaking ;)
All spares available in Canada

Availability

Progressive reef have just ordered 100 pieces and will be doing specials on packs for the 2-3 part and balling method.
Reef Shoppe has stock
Red Coral has stock
Blue world has stock

Other dealers too but are not can reef sponsors.

andestang 10-27-2010 07:50 PM

Wasn't suggesting putting the price up on a SA unit....

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 08:04 PM

;) I know, as always we like to over explain everything trying to keep things as open as possible ;)

lastlight 10-27-2010 08:48 PM

I'd love the SA 2 unit but one thing confuses me. Assuming all the SA models and all the non SA models are the same except for number of pumps you can see a uniform difference in price accounting for one less or more pump. All except the SA2 which by that very pattern should be closer to $380. What's special about this model?

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 09:01 PM

This is due to product sales popularity.

Because the SA3 and SA4 are massive sellers we are able to weigh large discounts on them. If the 3 and 4 sold a little as the SA2 does they would be more expensive as we would have very little to work with.

its all to do with volume.

The SA2 sells - about 1 a month
The SA3 - 50 ++++

However the slave 2 sells more, so the price is evenly spread in this range.

lastlight 10-27-2010 09:21 PM

Aw poop. Thanks for clarifying.

Still sucks as any unit can be downgraded/upgraded by any seller in a few minutes by adding or removing a pump. To me popularity should have less impact when it's a product like that but what do I know. Someday I'll nab me one.

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 09:33 PM

A dealer will pay more for upgrading and if downgrading they have to request the blank from us that comes with a weighted price tag :) dont worry we have you covered! Fair play for all.

In regards to price weighting, we would rather make sure the popular items are affordable to the many, we are also aware of the competition in the 3 stage doser units, and although the GHL cant really be compared in terms of quality to other makes, it is important to keep it competitive and within range. I think most people would rather spend $150 more for a product they know will last them many years over a product that "might" last them no more than 18 months. However if the product was $200 more expensive (about where the GHL SA3 should be priced at $500), then it becomes a tougher argument. Therefore as the SA3 especially sells by the boat load we are able to keep the price at rock bottom, which explains why we have no leverage when the Euro rises and you see the price ebb and flow.

As always probably opening up some argument based on us trying to be as open as possible to you guys, but hey I think ya all used that by now ;)

lastlight 10-27-2010 09:42 PM

No no I'm not trying to start something. And trust me I know they're awesome dosers. In my head I had sorta thought (based on you saying a 3 to a dealer is just them removing a pump from a 4) that dealers didn't pay a premium for pumps on their own. More like they order a bunch of units and pumps and can configure them to sell meaning it wouldn't matter which is popular. I'll still save my sheckles either way.

On another note I rarely have to touch my magnesium. I would have thought SA2 would be the most popular!

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 09:53 PM

The prices from GHL to us are comparitive, of course the pump and motors are sold to us more expensive so they are priced accordingly.

I can assure you upgrading or downgrading comes with strict regulation and monitored by us. Fair play is imperative to how we run our business model. An upgrade or downgrade is usually only allowed if we do not have stock to cover the dealers requirements as in at the time Reef Shoppes case.

One day I will stop being so open ;)

In regards to SA3 vs SA2 - most go for the SA3 as they do like to balance the system properly, even if you are dosing only 1ml a day, its still 1ml every day. On the other note they may wish to have a pump on hand for dosing something else. And when dealing with the slave unit there are multiple options for the 3rd pump.

Edit - looking at stats for October - the SA4 is outselling the SA3 and has done for the past 7 weeks!

lastlight 10-27-2010 10:59 PM

Well crap maybe I better get SA3 lol. My current doser consists of a few iPhone alarms and my hand. NOT elegant.

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2010 11:01 PM

jump quick and pick up and SA3 at $399 while stocks last!

StirCrazy 10-28-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 528848)
10. Will you ever stock BM dosers?
Not until they release spares for them, this is highly important, at present if a pump fails on a BM doser your a bit stuck to say the least!
11. BM DOSER spares - where can i get them
No where at present.

Ok so, the spare pumps and motors are available on a few websits and on e-bay.. when are you going to stop spouting that they are not available.

I will probably buy a proflux anyways as it is a good product, but I don't think you have to make stuff up to seel your product do you? if so that might make me re-concider buying something from your company.

Steve

Aqua-Digital 10-28-2010 05:28 PM

Nothing is made up I think we are the most open of all distributors you will find, if details change then we will update accordingly.

Post edited with more up to date info -

The quoted comments were from a few months ago and situations change quicky in this industry. We are aware parts can now be found on ebay although I do not see ebay as a viable source for service items for a main stream doser, and the parts still do not show up on even the latest BM wholesale list where as other parts do, so i am not aware if these are actual BM parts.

If you want to buy BM doser do so, we simply highlight what clients ask, which in the main is what do I get for the price difference and that is what has been highlighted here. If you still want to buy cheap and trust ya luck then thats consumer choice.

Logically if we thought the product was viable we would stock it Heck why not :) could make some good money from it as they import at dirt cheap, but as I have said many times, we do not distribute items we feel will give the client issues down the road. And that feeling "as yet" has not changed.

Lets keep this thread pleasant please, thanks ;)

mark 10-28-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 559958)
Logically if we thought the product was viable we would stock it Heck why not :) could make some good money from it as they import at dirt cheap, but as I have said many times, we do not distribute items we feel will give the client issues down the road. And that feeling "as yet" has not changed.

Lets keep this thread pleasant please, thanks ;)

I'm confused, thought AD was the BM distributor, is it that you don't import the BM doser?

Aqua-Digital 10-28-2010 08:31 PM

;)

Just because you are a distributor of a product does not mean you have to supply everything they sell, we dont supply everything GHL sell or ProdiBio. It is all based on what the distributor feels/knows is best for his market based on careful market research.

In this case the BM doser can be got elsewhere if clients so choose and we are happy for them to do so. If we felt the BM dosers even came close to the GHL in quality we would be all over it like a rash, but I dont like at present what I see in the product and it needs better componentry for us to feel happy with its longevity. Furthermore the GHL offers way better value for money in terms of quality, upgradeability, price point and long life, so until BM can match any of these points (our oppinion) it is not on our list.

Bubble Magus last night asked us again about the dosers, we told them everything that has been said here, no illusion.

Anyway this is a GHL thread lets keep on topic, if you want to do a BM vs GHL thread please feel free to do so on the open forum or in the BM section here ;)


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