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Polscot 06-15-2010 08:08 PM

corals calgary (shops)
 
Hi, i have a 6.6g nano reef with 2 shroom rocks and im wanting more types of begginers coral, my tank is lite with a 50/50 PC 20" light no dark spots, very nice LED set up for acetic (how ever its spelled), normal parameters, and i do water changes 1-2 times a week as needed,
just wondering peoples expiriences in calgary which stores are their favorite to shop at

PM or respond on here with what u have and ill get a hold of you, thanx

-Jason

parkinsn 06-15-2010 08:15 PM

I would say your not going to the right places. Have you been to Red coral, Golds and Ocean City? I could name a few that would be overpriced but thoes 3 are pretty fair. Also the more you shop at these places and get to know the owners/staff the better off you are.

Coleus 06-15-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by parkinsn (Post 527620)
i would say your not going to the right places. Have you been to red coral, golds and ocean city? I could name a few that would be overpriced but thoes 3 are pretty fair. Also the more you shop at these places and get to know the owners/staff the better off you are.

+1

Snappy 06-15-2010 08:31 PM

Yes those places are all good. I also have some very cost effective soft corals as well. For example I have some zoas, mushrooms, GSP, xenia & several varieties of leathers (toadstools, devils hand, cabbage, fingers, etc), photosynthetic gorgs, candy cane, frogspawn, etc.

kien 06-15-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527617)
its too much and i know there not worth that much

It all depends what you are looking at. Some mushrooms are very rare and expensive and can easily fetch $20 to $30 per head (Ricordias/yums, rhodactis, etc)! Same goes for brains and zoas. Some zoas can be $30 or more per polyp! Whether or not something is "worth it" is all relative. :biggrin:

Coleus 06-15-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 527629)
It all depends what you are looking at. Some mushrooms are very rare and expensive and can easily fetch $20 to $30 per head (Ricordias/yums, rhodactis, etc)! Same goes for brains and zoas. Some zoas can be $30 or more per polyp! Whether or not something is "worth it" is all relative. :biggrin:

also +1 :-)

KennyKen 06-15-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 527629)
It all depends what you are looking at. Some mushrooms are very rare and expensive and can easily fetch $20 to $30 per head (Ricordias/yums, rhodactis, etc)! Same goes for brains and zoas. Some zoas can be $30 or more per polyp! Whether or not something is "worth it" is all relative. :biggrin:

Agreed.
This forum is the best place where you can buy beginner corals at a great price. As a majority of the people selling coral on here aren't for profit, but more to make space, or try and give back to the community as more than likely someone did the same for them in the past.

So keep watching those classifieds

Coleus 06-15-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyKen (Post 527634)
Agreed.
This forum is the best place where you can buy beginner corals at a great price. As a majority of the people selling coral on here aren't for profit, but more to make space, or try and give back to the community as more than likely someone did the same for them in the past.

So keep watching those classifieds

-1. Sorry you are wrong :-) I am here for the profit but i am a very bad business person, keep losing money. I just have too much time doing nothing at work, sad...

Polscot 06-15-2010 08:53 PM

i have been to all those stores, and some are alright but the pricing is still way over considering what u can get shipped in from the US,

Coleus 06-15-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527640)
i have been to all those stores, and some are alright but the pricing is still way over considering what u can get shipped in from the US,

you can't be serious. Have you actually buy live stock from US yet? I think the delivery cost is very high and the chance fish / coral came in one piece is very low. Also LFS business is to make money out of small population of reefers in Calgary

Polscot 06-15-2010 09:00 PM

yeh i have a contact down in oregon that i get shipped to then shipped here.....even with shipping cost (which is by weight so not alot) its still less money. not fish though, they wouldent make the journey without mass stress

Zoaelite 06-15-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527643)
yeh i have a contact down in oregon that i get shipped to then shipped here.....even with shipping cost (which is by weight so not alot) its still less money. not fish though, they wouldent make the journey without mass stress

Then why don't you do that? If you can get better prices in the states go ahead, I don't for a second believe Calgary is overpriced considering that there is a high over head to maintain a store front.

It's all about supply and demand, go to http://cherrycorals.com and then come back and complain about prices.

Polscot 06-15-2010 09:11 PM

bro....calm down my post states that im looking to buy from private sellers, so id appreciate u not comming onto my post and flaming and being a jerk, if u have nothing to sell then u have nothing to say......thanx

Coleus 06-15-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527647)
bro....calm down my post states that im looking to buy from private sellers, so id appreciate u not comming onto my post and flaming and being a jerk, if u have nothing to sell then u have nothing to say......thanx

Me too that I find Calgary LFS has a very good price except for some. Also, you need to know what coral you are getting. They are not equally the same.

If you find that the state is cheaper then go for it :-), whatever makes you happy. You can also find great deal on frag from canreef members.

Again, I don't think it is right to comparing price in State and here. Just like you are comparing car price in state and here. Different business model need to be in place else there will be no LFS because they are losing money in rent, tax, etc.. :-)

Polscot 06-15-2010 09:20 PM

coleus i agree,

Gaffer 06-15-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527643)
yeh i have a contact down in oregon that i get shipped to then shipped here.....even with shipping cost (which is by weight so not alot) its still less money. not fish though, they wouldent make the journey without mass stress

Overnight shipping is pretty expensive no matter where it is from. I have been looking to order from a place in Washington and for a small shipment of zoa's it was going to be $80.

When you factor that in it essentially doubles the price of the livestock. I am not sure what it is like with the corals etc., but I know that customs has wanted to look closer at my dead exotic butterflies and that can hold them up for a long time.

Not so much of a problem with dried butterflies, but not good when it comes to livestock.

With that being said, I have bought stuff from local reefers that were a great deal, and command a higher price in bigger markets. Canreef has been a great resourse for that.

Andrew

kien 06-15-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527643)
yeh i have a contact down in oregon that i get shipped to then shipped here.....even with shipping cost (which is by weight so not alot) its still less money. not fish though, they wouldent make the journey without mass stress

WOW! It sounds like you have just as good a supply line as the LFS in the city! Not that I can compete with that but I do have some birdsnest frags I can offer ($0.10 a frag) :redface:

Polscot 06-15-2010 09:46 PM

the contact i have is my rents live down there 9 months a year, so when i can get stuff is limited to when there in the area lol, thats why i decided to come on here, can u post any pics kien?

lastlight 06-15-2010 09:48 PM

Kein's prices have always been outrageous but keep your eyes open. There are deals to be had.

kien 06-15-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 527677)
Kein's prices have always been outrageous but keep your eyes open. There are deals to be had.

Seriously, don't buy anything from Kein! Way overpriced.. but I hear the guy is helpful sometimes.

commanderKien 06-15-2010 09:55 PM

What corals are you looking for in particular?

Coleus 06-15-2010 09:59 PM

hhahah I always laugh so hard everytime Kien has to something to say about "this Kein" guy. How many posts already? Off my head I can count like 5 :-)

Yeah I hate Kein too although i never met him, but I really like Kien guy, so make sure you know which one you are dealing with.

Did i mention Kien guy is an awesome photographer guy. I love the family picture that he took for my family, will definitely ask him to do again in 6 months. Again, not the Kein guy tho

commanderKien 06-15-2010 10:00 PM

Yeah he's taken a few choice shots of my bits and bytes before as well. A real standup guy.

Polscot 06-15-2010 10:07 PM

shrooms, zoas, gsp,

Zoaelite 06-15-2010 10:41 PM

My apologizes if I came of like a Jerk, no harm intended just pointing out this hobby can be pricey at times. If you keep an eye out on canreef there are some wicked deals to be had but again it's all up to supply and demand.

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its too much and i know there not worth that much
This is a very relative absolute statement, LFS's in Calgary in most cases have very good prices again considering the considerable cost to ship in and maintain these fragile species. To bash them all because they are asking retail prices is unfair, after all without them where would we get all of our equipment/ livestock from?

Golds on 17th has wicked prices and Red Coral always has good cheap zoas if your looking for cost efficiency.
Levi

Polscot 06-15-2010 10:48 PM

appreciate it, and yes it was a bold statement.....

btw u have a gorgeous tank, how long have u had it? and how fast is the cover rate on the frags of gsp?

Zoaelite 06-15-2010 11:09 PM

Wow those photos are old, I need to update some in the profile but for the time being here are some updated shots http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62810

New tanks been up for about 6 months now, I removed all my GSP as it grows far to fast for my liking.
Levi

Polscot 06-15-2010 11:19 PM

im wanting to make a zoa garder across the floor of my tank do u have any sudgestions? do u feed or dose anything special for them? i have a 6.6g with a 20" PC 50/50 light with a led blue light set up, so plenty of light for the tank size

if i buy various plug/frags and lay them all along the surface will they eventually fill in thge gaps or how do they grow

Zoaelite 06-15-2010 11:38 PM

Zoas/ palys wont grow on sand so if your looking for growth you will need a rubble substrate, just maintain your levels as close to seawater and you will be good to go.

From "Aquarium Corals" by Eric Borneman

"Zoanthus colonies are highly dependent on their zooxanthellae- rather than active feeding on zoa plankton- for energy, and should always be placed in the aquarium where they will receive bright lighting"- PG 187

Now you just need to watch out for pests like Zoa eating nudies, zoa pox and large eunicid worms.

fishytime 06-16-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527674)
the contact i have is my rents live down there 9 months a year, so when i can get stuff is limited to when there in the area lol, thats why i decided to come on here, can u post any pics kien?

In other words it coming across the boarder illegally?

lockrookie 06-16-2010 12:47 AM

our lfs (we only have one) sells live rock for 11$ per pound corals are decently priced but everything fish wise is doubled what i see everywhere but if you take shipping to account it still saves me money in the long run. as i have seen on some ppls signatures it costs what it costs. it is not a cheap addiction/hobby to be in.

but the outcome is so worth it when you have company and hear the oooss and aweeees. and some day if all luck and sweat and tears subside you may actually have your addiction pay for more of the addiction. and the cycle continues. i wish i lived in bc of alberta to be able to check out the lfs there i am so jealous but nooooo i like in the crotch of canada in "the city that rhymes with fun" (quoted by the rolling stoneswhen they played here)

just my 2cents if you can get deals go for it but not all deals work out.

Polscot 06-16-2010 12:55 AM

no, they mail it from oregon,

Polscot 06-16-2010 12:58 AM

this post is intended to talk to other reefers in calgary and buy there personal stock and eventually trade mine, please keep your negative comments out as no one cares, if u arent in calgary or cant ship here find another form please

trinac 06-16-2010 01:08 AM

:pop2:

i love canreef

kien 06-16-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by trinac (Post 527750)
:pop2:

i love canreef

Trina, what did the guy JUST say?!?!?! :lol:

I have some gsp I'm about to frag if interested. Sadly it did not come from the US so its just boring Canuck GSP.

chandigz 06-16-2010 02:17 AM

Not being negative here but be carefull when bringing corals accross the border because a lot of them require CITIES permits. All hard corals and even softies and zoas require CITIES if they are attached to coral based substrate(live rock). Your shipment can be confiscated and there are huge fines if you don't have the proper documention. I just don't want to see you get into trouble. Keep an eye out here you'll find what you want.

kien 06-16-2010 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chandigz (Post 527776)
Not being negative here but be carefull when bringing corals accross the border because a lot of them require CITIES permits. All hard corals and even softies and zoas require CITIES if they are attached to coral based substrate(live rock). Your shipment can be confiscated and there are huge fines if you don't have the proper documention. I just don't want to see you get into trouble. Keep an eye out here you'll find what you want.

----v

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Originally Posted by Polscot (Post 527746)
this post is intended to talk to other reefers in calgary and buy there personal stock and eventually trade mine, please keep your negative comments out as no one cares, if u arent in calgary or cant ship here find another form please

:lol:

here's what the birdsnest looks like. Green/tan with blue polyps.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/...c27c870f61.jpg

Eb0la11 06-16-2010 02:28 AM

My contribution to this thread:

Kein is a doucher, Kien is a beauty.

kien 06-16-2010 02:34 AM

Don't listen to any of those guys, I'm a badass! Really I am. Even tho my ass keeps calling Tony. :redface:

Polscot 06-16-2010 02:38 AM

once again.......it isnt brought over the boarder its shipped......


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