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OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-07-2010 11:09 PM

O.C. Exclusive new Silicone Frag Glue!!
 

Available within one week is our new exclusive "OC-CoralSTICK" Silicone Frag Glue that kicks the crap out of all the other epoxies that we have tested.

This Frag Glue is in two parts and is molded together to form the putty, there is no residue and or milkiness when placed in the water as well it lacks the smell of the cheaper Frag Epoxies. The Glue takes about 1.5-2 minutes to fully harden and has a nice soft texture. Of course this glue is completely non toxic to human or Coral.

The OC-CoralSTICK glue will be $21.99 and the volume of the product is about 50% more that of the other two stick epoxies available.

Anyone that does a lot of fragging want to do a test and review for us? Half price for the first person that PM's us to be the Guinea Pig!

O.C.

brizzo 04-07-2010 11:12 PM

Sounds very interesting! Looking forward to hearing what others have to say about it.

I'm assuming it cures white/grey?

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-07-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazerine (Post 508741)
Sounds very interesting! Looking forward to hearing what others have to say about it.

I'm assuming it cures white/grey?


Cures Coralline pink color.

christyf5 04-08-2010 02:18 AM

Wicked!! I can't wait to try this stuff out! :biggrin:

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-08-2010 02:30 AM

Okay!

The two testers are "dreef" and "shrimpchips" once they get the glue we will start the review thread.

Congrats guys.

OC



viperfish 04-08-2010 02:53 AM

I can't wait to try this one!

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-08-2010 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medhatreefguy (Post 508801)
I can't wait to try this one!

The glue is now available on the website and will start shipping next week! :mrgreen:

christyf5 04-20-2010 08:04 PM

Have the reviewers gotten their glue yet? I'd like to order some but am waiting to hear what they think :biggrin:

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-20-2010 08:08 PM

I am thinking most of them should be seeing their CoralSTICK in the mailbox today! We should see some reviews coming in pretty quick!

dreef 04-20-2010 10:37 PM

I'am checking the mail box daily when i get home from work,not yet.Should be here anyday,and i'll get on that review.

shrimpchips 04-21-2010 01:01 AM

Me too - I have about 6 frags waiting for a gluin'.

dreef 04-23-2010 01:02 AM

Recieved the OC-CoralSTICK in the mail today, Thank You Ian !! interesting looking product,and packaging.I won't have time to try it,and post a review till this saturday.I can tell already i'm going to like it :)

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-23-2010 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreef (Post 512732)
Recieved the OC-CoralSTICK in the mail today, Thank You Ian !! interesting looking product,and packaging.I won't have time to try it,and post a review till this saturday.I can tell already i'm going to like it :)


Excellent! We look forward to your review!

O.C.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-23-2010 03:40 PM

Anyone else that has received the Glue want to do a review for us?I know you are out there!

don.ald 04-23-2010 11:26 PM

well, i finished changing over to my new system today and spent the afternoon attaching frags.
the "silicone frag glue" was amazing. wow, talk about easy to use... never seen such plyable stuff. it takes seconds to mix it and its ready to go. and yes it sets fast!! very pleased.
(can't tell you how many different glues and puttys i have lying around unused because they suck.)

this stuff has little smell, looks like bubble gum (only softer) and it doesnt get soupy or fall apart or go soft when u place it in the tank .
gota get me some more:mrgreen:
rick

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-24-2010 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by don.ald (Post 512993)
well, i finished changing over to my new system today and spent the afternoon attaching frags.
the "silicone frag glue" was amazing. wow, talk about easy to use... never seen such plyable stuff. it takes seconds to mix it and its ready to go. and yes it sets fast!! very pleased.
(can't tell you how many different glues and puttys i have lying around unused because they suck.)

this stuff has little smell, looks like bubble gum (only softer) and it doesnt get soupy or fall apart or go soft when u place it in the tank .
gota get me some more:mrgreen:
rick


Glad you love the frag Glue! Thanks for the review, looking for more as I think others should have theirs by now too.

andestang 04-24-2010 06:47 AM

Would this be suitable for rock work also? I have a bunch of structure work to do thanks to Kien :tongue:. I might have to add this to my order :wof:

don.ald 04-24-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andestang (Post 513137)
Would this be suitable for rock work also? I have a bunch of structure work to do thanks to Kien :tongue:. I might have to add this to my order :wof:

i did use some for my structure to secure a small rock. it holds fast and strong. i havn't tried it with large builds.

Lance 04-24-2010 09:49 PM

This stuff is so much better than the others I've tried. The only way I could get the others to work decently was to put some cyanoacrylate glue on the frag and then on the putty before sticking it to the rockwork. The OC-Coralstick, however, works great all by itself. It is easy to mix and hardens quickly. I am impressed!

dreef 04-25-2010 03:33 AM

Review
 
Ok what a busy day,took photos hrs. ago but had new local salty people over..1000 questions later :)

This is the sweet container the OC coralSTICK comes in,it has a lock that you have to peel to get at the goods.I can use this container later for additives :)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00417.jpg

Here's the putty one is white the other a bubble gum pink.Nice weight,quite a bit of product here.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00418.jpg

Here's the sloped area behind the bubble coral where i have mounted frags before,only to have them fall off minutes later.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00422.jpg

Here's an atlantis pink polyp cap mounted,it's no small frags it's 5x4

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00433.jpg

See the angle it's mounted at,probably 30 degrees

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00435.jpg

Next was mounting a purple gorg,it's not happy after being out of the water for a few seconds.Quite an angle,and i cleaned the side glass minutes after puttying it,thrashing it around.Didn't move :)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00429.jpg


I give this OC Product a 2 thumbs up !! Sooo soft and nice to work with.No real smell,no pink stained fingers for the rest of the day.Doesn't get slimey or cloud the water at all.Doesn't start to fall apart under water while your moving it around.Didn't make my skimmer overflow like others i have used.And mounting frags or colonys at an angle is totally possible as in 2 minutes it's set.Thanks Oceanic Corals for letting me try this fine product in your ever increasing lineup of cutting edge products.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 04-25-2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreef (Post 513417)
Ok what a busy day,took photos hrs. ago but had new local salty people over..1000 questions later :)

This is the sweet container the OC coralSTICK comes in,it has a lock that you have to peel to get at the goods.I can use this container later for additives :)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00417.jpg

Here's the putty one is white the other a bubble gum pink.Nice weight,quite a bit of product here.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00418.jpg

Here's the sloped area behind the bubble coral where i have mounted frags before,only to have them fall off minutes later.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00422.jpg

Here's an atlantis pink polyp cap mounted,it's no small frags it's 5x4

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00433.jpg

See the angle it's mounted at,probably 30 degrees

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00435.jpg

Next was mounting a purple gorg,it's not happy after being out of the water for a few seconds.Quite an angle,and i cleaned the side glass minutes after puttying it,thrashing it around.Didn't move :)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79...1/DSC00429.jpg


I give this OC Product a 2 thumbs up !! Sooo soft and nice to work with.No real smell,no pink stained fingers for the rest of the day.Doesn't get slimey or cloud the water at all.Doesn't start to fall apart under water while your moving it around.Didn't make my skimmer overflow like others i have used.And mounting frags or colonys at an angle is totally possible as in 2 minutes it's set.Thanks Oceanic Corals for letting me try this fine product in your ever increasing lineup of cutting edge products.


Great review! Thanks for the thorough write up! We feel it is easily the best frag glue available anywhere.

Ian
O.C.

shrimpchips 04-29-2010 02:24 AM

As the other tester, here's my initial review of OC's new Silicone frag putty:

Out of the package, the putty is really easy to work with. It's super soft and so it's very easy to pinch off a piece, and very easy to knead together. Unlike conventional two-part epoxy, it doesn't leave a nasty residue on your fingers, nor does it have an odor.

It mixes well in under 10 seconds, and stays flexible for a while. Unlike some putties that can get pretty hot while curing, so far as I can tell, this putty stays cool.

The mixed putty is easily shaped and can be worked with for a while. The instructions stated that you have around 60 seconds to work it, but it definitely stays malleable for a while longer than that.

The first thing I used it for was placing a frag onto the rockwork. The putty works well to conform to spaces, but I found that it didn't cling to the rocks very well. I like a very firm hold for my frags (as one fall could take out a whole host of corals), and I found that the putty stayed soft for a while longer than I would have liked.

But for the workability and ease of handling, it's definitely much better than your conventional epoxy.

I also created a series of frags from fairly fast growing corals in my tank that needed to be trimmed. Two are sunk into traditional two-part epoxy, two are in OC's silicone putty, and two are attached with gel cyanoacrylate only. We'll come back in two or three weeks when they've started to encrust to see how they're doing. Granted they're all different species, but I did one monti and one acro on each piece, so we'll see how this turns out.

I haven't tried using it for structural work yet, but so far when attaching frags to rocks and attaching cuttings to frag plugs, it's worked very well. I woudln't say that it'll totally replace the traditional epoxy in my reef 'toolbox' but it definitely has earned a place in there for the ease of use and cleanliness.

I'll be sure to check back in a few to see how those frags are doing :)

burrows14 04-29-2010 02:44 AM

has anyone done any aquascaping with this?

OceanicCorals-Ian- 05-04-2010 09:25 PM

We have another limited order of the O.C. CoralSTICK in the works! We have also had to raise the price a little due to the increase in cost of importing the materials.

Thanks again! Enjoy your Glue!


OceanicCorals-Ian- 06-02-2010 06:41 AM

A new batch of CoralSTICK has arrived! Get yourself some of the best frag glue available on the market!

We also now have a coraline purple version coming in about a week!

O.C.

lastlight 06-02-2010 07:26 AM

So is this stuff any different than reg 2-part epoxies with regard to it being meant to fill crevasses or wrap around frags? It grips but is not a glue per se. You can't simply press a frag into it like glue can you?

don.ald 06-02-2010 02:28 PM

it is another -- 2-part epox--. easy to use but not a glue per se.
Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 523991)
So is this stuff any different than reg 2-part epoxies with regard to it being meant to fill crevasses or wrap around frags? It grips but is not a glue per se. You can't simply press a frag into it like glue can you?


OceanicCorals-Ian- 06-02-2010 04:27 PM

O.C. Exclusive new Silicone Frag Glue!!
 
It is not a typical glue but instead is a two part "silicone epoxy" the two parts are not actually an epoxy but a special blended medical type silicone with a high shore rating. This product has absolutely no harmful chemicals, smell, or exothermic heat associated with typical epoxies.

shrimpchips 06-02-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 523991)
So is this stuff any different than reg 2-part epoxies with regard to it being meant to fill crevasses or wrap around frags? It grips but is not a glue per se. You can't simply press a frag into it like glue can you?

I found that it didn't stick very well to anything - wet or dry. But it molds very well and doesn't cure hot so one would think that it's better for frags and such over the traditional two part epoxies.

Werbo 06-02-2010 05:32 PM

Has anyone mounted more that 10 corals at one time with this new OC epoxy?

My pet peeve with standard epoxy's is that after mounting 10+ frags the skimmer overflows.

Borderjumper 06-02-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimpchips (Post 524042)
I found that it didn't stick very well to anything - wet or dry. But it molds very well and doesn't cure hot so one would think that it's better for frags and such over the traditional two part epoxies.


That was my experiance also. Its really soft and easy to work with and molds nicely, but I couldnt get it to stick to anything.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 06-02-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borderjumper (Post 524066)
That was my experiance also. Its really soft and easy to work with and molds nicely, but I couldnt get it to stick to anything.

The glue is not sticky but will adhere to rocks etc quit nicely once it is about 3/4 hardened, it will push nicely into porous rocks and hold solid. You could likely frag every coral in your tank and the skimmer would not be effected.

Our newest purple version is a little more sticky but still will not stick to just anything it touches. For those looking for it to stick to more non porous surfaces I suggest you wait a while longer until it hardens up about half to 3/4 fully cured.

The real advantages of our glue is the following;
  1. No skimmer issues
  2. No water clouding
  3. No stained fingers
  4. No stuck glue on fingers
  5. No exothermic heat (damages frag tissue)
  6. No smell
  7. Copletely FDA approved materials
  8. Easier to mold into shape
  9. No cracking or breakage once cured


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