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OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-21-2010 04:16 AM

O.C ICE CooL.E.D Spotlights
 
Pushing for innovation and paving a path way for LED lighting in our hobby is something we have seen a lot in the last few years O.C is proud to present our ICE Coo-LED. Soon to be in stock

These spotlights will light up those nano systems without the addition of heat. Powered by 3W Cree XR-E white and royal blue LEDs these spotlights are pushing out a ton of PAR for there size.

The ICE Coo-LED spotlights will be coming in 2 different sizes and wattage:

15W @ 850 lumens: 5x 3W Cree XR-E with 60 degree optics
12,000K configuration (2x royal blue, 3x white)
14,000K configuration (3x royal blue, 2x white)
Size: 9.5cm x 9.8cm fins
Pricing: $109.99
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/imisky/5x3w.gif

27W @ 1440 lumens: 9x 3W Cree XR-E with 60 degree optics
12,000K configuration (3x royal blue, 6x white)
14,000k configuration (4x rotal blue, 5x white)
Size: 12.2cm x 12.2cm fins
Pricing: $169.99
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/imisky/9x3w.gif

Both of these spotlight utilize E27 sockets which are the normal light bulb sockets! so no fiddling with wiring just plug and play!

Caution! These bulbs are NOT designed to be used with dimming switches any attempt to use them would damage and void the warranty. Also these lamps are NOT designed to be used within enclosed hoods or fixtures any attempt to use them this way would also void the warranty.

EDIT:

I should indicate here that the wattage that we use for the bulbs are the wattage output of the LED emitters not the total wattage usage of the spotlight, in other words if the PAR38 driver takes roughly 6 wattages then the ICE CooLEDs would be the following wattage:

5x3W (15W) + PAR38 driver (6W) = total 21W
9x3W (27W) + PAR38 driver (7-8W) = total 34-35W

We could market these bulbs at there total wattage used, but that would be deceiving our customers as to what the actual output the bulbs are giving out.

Blowfish 03-21-2010 07:33 AM

who is the manufacturer of these? are they ul approved (a improtant thing)? i'm looking for 12 spots to light a 70 gallon sps tank but i also want to buy from a trusted manufacturer who knows what they are doing i dont want to be buying something made by a teenage kid. Just too many variables with led construction, any tom dick and harry can buy the parts off the web and put them together for less then the cost of a six pack. But if this company icecooled is not some fly by night company that has just started up and has put in the R&D and legit enough to get proper ul certification then you can put me down for a bunch of them for my upcoming build!! Please give us more info, is there a website for this manufacturer? any par numbers? longevity of the bulbs? heatsink calculations? existing users? where are they made? (hopefully not in a basement j/k :)) I checked reefcentral but couldn't find any info on these, sorry for all the questions but i'm sure anybody who is going to buy leds are going to ask these questions anyways.

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-21-2010 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blowfish (Post 503854)
who is the manufacturer of these? are they ul approved (a improtant thing)? i'm looking for 12 spots to light a 70 gallon sps tank but i also want to buy from a trusted manufacturer who knows what they are doing i dont want to be buying something made by a teenage kid. Just too many variables with led construction, any tom dick and harry can buy the parts off the web and put them together for less then the cost of a six pack. But if this company icecooled is not some fly by night company that has just started up and has put in the R&D and legit enough to get proper ul certification then you can put me down for a bunch of them for my upcoming build!! Please give us more info, is there a website for this manufacturer? any par numbers? longevity of the bulbs? heatsink calculations? existing users? where are they made? (hopefully not in a basement j/k :)) I checked reefcentral but couldn't find any info on these, sorry for all the questions but i'm sure anybody who is going to buy leds are going to ask these questions anyways.

The more questions asked the better as we want to sell products that not just efficient/ lower cost, but safe as well and the questions you pointed out are addressing a lot of the issues related to that.. In regards to this product the name ICE cooL.E.D is something that we came up with for it, so a company called ICE cooL.E.D doesnt exist!. However these units are CE certified and the company is currently in the process of getting there MET approval done as well as CSA, we made sure that the company we picked to manufacture these had these certificates as it would be hazardous to sell products which were poorly made, especially when it has to do with electricity and salt water. So just to clarify these units are made by a legit company and not a teenage kid in some basement haha. We had sourced a company in China that had been in the LED industry for a while now (15+ years) but more on the side of everyday household lighting. Unfortunately i cant provide you with a website to the manufacture for obvious reasons but these spotlights are using PAR38 drivers and Cree XR-E LEDs like that found in the EVIL66 spotlights so they should perform close to if not similar to them..

We will be testing these bulbs in our store once they come in and will be testing it out with a PAR meter to see what they give off as well as the temperature they run at. I'll keep you guys posted.

Spects for both lamps
Base Type: E26/E27
Input Voltage: AC110
LED: Cree XR-E
Driver current: 600mA
Optics: 60degree
Ambient Temp Required: less than 68C
Emitter Life: 50,000 hours
Safety Standards: CE ROHS
Over Current Protection
Reverse Polarity Protection

EDIT:heat sink fin size has been added onto the first post.

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-26-2010 05:10 AM

got the package in today and these spotlights are looking really nice! well constructed and solid and the heatsink does a very good job at maintaining it at roughly 45C range. The vents on the top, near the socket releases heat near the driver of the unit and the fins depending on where we point it range from 35-46 on the 27W version.

The temperature was taken was an IR temperature gun, the PAR test has to be done still and the PAR values should be up shortly.

For the meantime, heres some photos for those interested in seeing the actual product pictures.

Lets start with the 15W version: (heatsink size: 9.5cm diameter)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2588.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2587.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2586.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2582.jpg
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and heres the 27W version: (heatsink size: 12.2cm diamter)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2579.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2578.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2589.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2590.jpg

Some close up shot of the heatsink fins + and lens and texture.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2593.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...D/IMG_2594.jpg

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-27-2010 05:01 AM

tested with the PAR meter today, comparing the ICE CooL.E.D to 400W MH at about 8" above the water surface.

400WMH aquaconnect+6x54w T5HO gave 500PAR at 12" depth
27W ICE CooL.E.D gave 250PAR at 12" depth
15W ICE CooL.E.D gave 150PAR at 12" depth

400W MH ran at 89C
27W ICE CooL.E.D ran at 48C with almost zero heat project forward
15W ICE CooL.E.D ran at 41C with almsot zero heat project forward

Core running temperature on the O.C ICE CooL.E.D is about 50C the fins dissipate the heat to about 38-41 near the LEDs in the front.

Come in the store and check out the Nano system we have running with the O.C ICE CooL.E.D spotlight

BlueAbyss 03-27-2010 05:59 AM

Interesting. How far above the surface of the water were the spotlights mounted for your PAR test? I may have suddenly found a replacement for my 70W halide :biggrin:

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-27-2010 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueAbyss (Post 505554)
Interesting. How far above the surface of the water were the spotlights mounted for your PAR test? I may have suddenly found a replacement for my 70W halide :biggrin:

the 400W MH and the 27W LED were both mounted roughly 8-10" above the water surface

nlreefguy 03-27-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanicCorals-Eugene- (Post 505540)
tested with the PAR meter today, comparing the ICE CooL.E.D to 400W MH at about 8" above the water surface.

400WMH aquaconnect+6x54w T5HO gave 500PAR at 12" depth
27W ICE CooL.E.D gave 250PAR at 12" depth
15W ICE CooL.E.D gave 150PAR at 12" depth

400W MH ran at 89C
27W ICE CooL.E.D ran at 48C with almost zero heat project forward
15W ICE CooL.E.D ran at 41C with almsot zero heat project forward

Core running temperature on the O.C ICE CooL.E.D is about 50C the fins dissipate the heat to about 38-41 near the LEDs in the front.

Come in the store and check out the Nano system we have running with the O.C ICE CooL.E.D spotlight

How about doing a comparison with a 250W metal halide? I think probably more people are using 250s than 400s, plus the results should be more favourable!

BlueTang<3 03-27-2010 02:02 PM

how long would these bulbs last before losing the par reading

xlzerolx 03-27-2010 05:22 PM

My guess would be about 3-4 years. Led's are awesome

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-27-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlreefguy (Post 505592)
How about doing a comparison with a 250W metal halide? I think probably more people are using 250s than 400s, plus the results should be more favourable!

I shall, just have to find a 250W setup to compare it to once we find one and test the results i'll post them:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 505596)
how long would these bulbs last before losing the par reading

Given the LEDs spotlights are used properly, not inside an enclosed fixture, the PAR valve drop is only 30% through the lifespan of the LEDs which is roughly 6 years
Quote:

Originally Posted by xlzerolx (Post 505648)
My guess would be about 3-4 years. Led's are awesome


nlreefguy 03-28-2010 12:41 AM

How and when can we purchase/oder these? :)

OceanicCorals-Ian- 03-28-2010 01:25 AM

Re: O.C ICE CooL.E.D Spotlights
 
As of today these bulbs are available on our website under LED Lighting.

nlreefguy 03-28-2010 01:42 AM

do you think a guy could replace his 2 X 250 W MH setup with three of these? Just a hypothetical "guy" ;)

Electric eel 03-28-2010 02:54 AM

Led
 
Yes I also have 2x250mh how many of these will it take to replace my MH's

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-28-2010 02:58 AM

Quote:

do you think a guy could replace his 2 X 250 W MH setup with three of these? Just a hypothetical "guy"
the LED spotlights cover a footprint of about 1ft x 1ft before the steep dropoff of PAR occurs so roughly i suggest 1 bulb per that footprint. unless doing a softy tank which then i would suggest the 15W version.

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-28-2010 03:23 AM

For those who are interested in these spotlight or even just for those that want to expand their knowledge on lighting. These LED spotlights are good for coverage that is roughly 1ft x 1ft. Metal Halide systems generally cover a footprint of 2ft x 2ft range before the intensity drops off quite a bit.

So in deciding how many ICE CooL.E.Ds are needed for a tank, base it on the footprint so the tank doesnt get a spotlight effect. However once the tank gets to 20"+ i would suggest something in the range of 3 spotlights for a 2ft-L x 1ft-W dimension.

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 03-28-2010 04:35 AM

im spaming my own thread how sad!

But, for those who want to order these lights, We will be placing our first order with the manufacture soon. After this first shipment the limited time pricing will be coming to an end so get your orders in!

Lets put the deadline at next sunday (April 4th) dont miss out on the great deals! Place the order online and for those who are interested but dont have the $$ right now to pay for it but may have it by the end of May, PM me and let me know so i can put you down for one.

Snaz 03-28-2010 04:50 AM

I saw the pico display today at the boutique and these bulbs are very nice. I placed my hand about 6 inches under the bulbs and the heat was barely noticeable but the tank glowed.

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 04-02-2010 08:19 PM

2 more days until we place the order with the manufacture, get your pre-orders in before the special is over!

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 04-04-2010 07:13 AM

last reminder that the LED spotlight special will end tomorrow night! at 11:59PM!

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 04-05-2010 06:56 PM

The sale on the bulbs are now over, starting today, the O.C ICE CooL.E.Ds pricing will be:

15W: $109.99
27W: $169.99

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 04-11-2010 06:44 AM

I guess i should indicate here that the wattage that we use for the bulbs are the wattage output of the LED emitters not the total wattage usage of the spotlight, in other words if the PAR38 driver takes roughly 6 wattages then the ICE CooLEDs would be the following wattage:

5x3W (15W) + PAR38 driver (6W) = total 21W
9x3W (27W) + PAR38 driver (7-8W) = total 34-35W

We could market these bulbs at there total wattage used, but that would be deceiving our customers as to what the actual output the bulbs are giving out.

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 04-29-2010 06:38 PM

The shipment of ICECooLEDs have arrived!

Stock thats avaliable:

27W 12,000K - 3 bulbs
27W 14,000K - sold out
27W 20,000K NEW Configuration ( 3 cool white, 6 royal blue) - 1

15W 12,000K - 7 bulbs
15W 14,000K - 7 bulbs

Didnt think that before the shipment would come in that all the extra stock we ordered for the 14K version would be all spoken for, a new order of the bulbs will be placed soon!

OceanicCorals-Ian- 05-12-2010 10:46 PM

Here is a recent testimonial that we received on the lights.....

Gentlemen,

I recently purchased 3 of the 27watt ICE Cool LED spotlights for my 80 gallon mixed reef/fish tank and have to tell you how impressed I am with this product.

Originally I used a Corallife Compact Flourescent hood with 2 X 65w 10,000K, and 2 X 65W Actinics. Tank is 48"L X 30"H X 13"D and you can see from the attached pic that there was not enough power to get intense light to the bottom. I was looking at 2 X 250w MH's but the cost was more than I could afford in my budget.T hen I saw your information on the BC Aquaria web site

With the new LED's you can see that the intense light is now getting to the bottom of the tank. All the "softies", the leathers and bush corals are doing very well under these lights, and as a side issue, because the LED's do not emit in the orange/red wavelengths, I am having less of a problem with with algae.


Great system, you can go ahead and use these pics and this testimonial as a reference.

regards,

G. Featherstone


Before

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...s/100_1227.JPG

After

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...s/100_1244.jpg

LeeR 05-16-2010 03:46 AM

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k...f/DSC_0085.jpg

any chance you can do a 50/50 blue/royal? in both W
the 20k seems to lose its 20k look after a few days.. or my eyes are just getting used to it.. im not really sure

i posted more photos im my build thread

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 05-16-2010 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacheteAvenue (Post 519246)
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k...f/DSC_0085.jpg

any chance you can do a 50/50 blue/royle? in both W
the 20k seems to lose its 20k look after a few days.. or my eyes are just getting used to it.. im not really sure

i posted more photos im my build thread

Nice photo Lee,

I'll ask the manufacture and see what they can do for us but in most cases its your eyes adjusting the the look of the LED lighting. I know going from MH to LED was a bit weird for me when i first fired them up but after a few days it became like any other lighting. Hope you like them!

LeeR 05-16-2010 04:36 AM

ya i sorta figured that. i asked my girlfriend and she said i was crazy for thinkin it wasnt very blue.

i still wouldnt mind a 50/50 type bulb to help out the 20k when the 2X14ks are on.

let me know.

and thanks again for the great product

:mrgreen:

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 05-16-2010 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacheteAvenue (Post 519264)
ya i sorta figured that. i asked my girlfriend and she said i was crazy for thinkin it wasnt very blue.

i still wouldnt mind a 50/50 type bulb to help out the 20k when the 2X14ks are on.

let me know.

and thanks again for the great product

:mrgreen:


I think all of the girlfriends and wives out there think the bf/husband are a little crazy so your not alone on that one.

just wanted to make sure when you mean 50/50 its not:
-50% white 50% blue
but
-50% blue and 50% royal blue

So a full blue bulb?

Just wanted to make sure what you ment before i contact the manufacture so they dont think im a total nut case which i think they already believe i am. The hardest thing about these bulbs is they are 9 emitters and its impossible to get 50/50 its always going to be 40/60 ( which the 14K is 4blue, 5 white)

LeeR 05-16-2010 05:59 AM

yes all blue

i didnt even thing about there only being 9 leds hahahaha

or maybe something weird like 6 royals and 3 green. i read something on reefbuilders about green light a while ago.. might be interesting to try

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 05-16-2010 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacheteAvenue (Post 519301)
yes all blue

i didnt even thing about there only being 9 leds hahahaha

or maybe something weird like 6 royals and 3 green. i read something on reefbuilders about green light a while ago.. might be interesting to try

Alrite i'll see what they can do about the blue/ royal blue combo

im currently testing out a prototype i had made with 4x royal blue, 4x cool white, 1x red and the red is over powering 3W of red over takes 12W of royal blues to our eyes...and no doubt would that happen with the greens as well. Ive heard the greens help pop the oranges/reds but maybe ill build one as a prototype to test out. Dont forget too that every spectrum you add gets broken up into its colors if you have surface movement...in the case with the lamp with the red emitter i was getting 3 colors haha...

deputy1234 05-19-2010 02:23 AM

Do you still have the "27W 20,000K NEW Configuration ( 3 cool white, 6 royal blue)" left?

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 05-19-2010 02:32 AM

We are currently out of stock on the following:

27W 20,000K
27W 14,000K

however! new stock is coming in shortly!

deputy1234 05-19-2010 02:36 AM

Do you know when the order will arrive? Also, there is no option to select for the 20,000k on the site.

OceanicCorals-Eugene- 05-19-2010 02:45 AM

We are looking at roughly 2-3 weeks wait time as we are currently trying to work with the manufacture on possible improvements to the spotlights, and new configurations that the lights will be offered in.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 05-19-2010 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deputy1234 (Post 519990)
Do you know when the order will arrive? Also, there is no option to select for the 20,000k on the site.

I will take care of this as soon as I know what the pricing will be.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 05-19-2010 03:52 AM

20K option has now been added, pre orders can now be made.

Ian


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