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The Grizz 02-26-2010 01:44 AM

HELP!!! LT Plate Is Receding
 
I have had this Long Tentacale Plate since January 9 this year, Recently I have noticed that it is starting to recede around the bottom & on 2 small spot's across from each other. I had it on the sand bed but read some where that was not a good thing, so I put a 1" thick flat rock under it. I also moved the flow so it was not waving around so much. Also it does not seem to want to take any PE Mysis at all, even when I first got it. Parameter's are all good.

The Grizz 02-26-2010 08:19 PM

Anyone got any idea's for me?????:sad:

Carmen 02-26-2010 08:29 PM

Total bummer Greg! Never ate anything for you??? Hmmm...Is the food being snatched before it gets it in it's mouth?? Or just not taking the food? Does it show any kind of feeding response?
I don't know if these guys ae likely to recover easily or not but you may want to try dipping it...not sure if you've done that but if it's got an infection that might help stop it in it's tracks.

The Grizz 02-26-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmen (Post 496242)
Total bummer Greg! Never ate anything for you??? Hmmm...Is the food being snatched before it gets it in it's mouth?? Or just not taking the food? Does it show any kind of feeding response?
I don't know if these guys ae likely to recover easily or not but you may want to try dipping it...not sure if you've done that but if it's got an infection that might help stop it in it's tracks.

Never ate at all, at least any of the mysis. I made sure to but it right on it's mouth and keep all the fish away from it as well. I am scared to move it to do a FW dip but I will give it a go. It looks so heathy on the rest of it though.

Doug 02-26-2010 11:50 PM

Not sure why you would wish to fresh water dip it, as I dont think it would help this problem. However not an expert on them. Tried one or two a way back when and they receded. Some think many of the plates should be left unharvested because of the problems keeping them.

Aquarists that I have seen with success in keeping them attribute it to feeding. Wonder if you tried something a bit larger like a piece of krill or perhaps even a piece of silversides or whatever those minnows are called.

Have a friend who,s had luck and will ask him tomm. what he suggests.

RuGlu6 02-26-2010 11:56 PM

May be like was mentioned before try different size food, however try a Smaller particle as well, i feed mine cyclopeze, and reefroids.
i would also stay away from deeping it
jm2cw

The Grizz 02-27-2010 02:21 AM

I have tried everything to feed him with no success. I think it is doomed as I have noticed today that my Coral Beauty & Blue Tang is starting to pick on the loose dying skin.:cry::cry:

Carmen 02-27-2010 03:00 AM

By dipping it, I meant with either an iodine dip or Revive coral dip, something like that. Not sure if that is suggested for plates but I have used it for LPS successfully in the past to deal with brown jelly infection.
If the fish are picking it you can try to cover it with a strawberry basket until it can heal.
I have had the exact same thing happen with my brain (see my thread) and it has not been successful but worth a try I suppose.

The Grizz 02-27-2010 03:10 AM

Thanks Carmen, that would help if I had a strawberry basket,:sad:. Sorry to see your brain is suffering. Mine don't do much, wont open up at all. If it makes the night I am going to build something out of egg crate tomorrow.

bvlester 02-27-2010 05:44 AM

Do you have a QT that would give you time to find or make something that will work. try a mixture of food put it in a blender and when you feed make sure it is right in the mouth area if it is going to eat it will draw it in.

Bill

The Grizz 02-27-2010 05:54 AM

I dont have my QT tank set up ATM but was thinking of moving it to my sump for the night. The light's are off now and the Beauty and B tang are now behind the rock snoozing.

cordeiro 02-27-2010 06:16 AM

got this off the net maybe it will help u out a bit i dont know to much about them.....

This is from an article by Julian Sprung;

Husbandry requirements for Heliofungia

Keeping Heliofungia in a reef aquarium is not difficult. One should of course avoid fishes that may pester or feed on the coral. Various angelfish and butterflyfishes fall in this category. The aquarium should have a sufficiently large flat horizontal area on the bottom where the coral can be placed, on gravel, sand, or rock. The coral thus will be correctly oriented with respect to the light, and will have sufficient room to move around. There should be no other corals, soft or hard, that the Heliofungia might contact as it moves around on the bottom. An exception is that there can be other Heliofungia. Heliofungia normally grows and thrives in captivity, but as I previously described, it is prone to infections. If the coral develops a brown jelly infection it is important to remove it from the aquarium. The fouling tissue from a dying Heliofungia may spread the infection to other corals, killing them in an effect like falling dominoes (Delbeek and Sprung, 1994).


Here's the link (http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...003/invert.htm) to the article.

The Grizz 02-27-2010 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordeiro (Post 496477)
got this off the net maybe it will help u out a bit i dont know to much about them.....

This is from an article by Julian Sprung;

Husbandry requirements for Heliofungia

Keeping Heliofungia in a reef aquarium is not difficult. One should of course avoid fishes that may pester or feed on the coral. Various angelfish and butterflyfishes fall in this category. The aquarium should have a sufficiently large flat horizontal area on the bottom where the coral can be placed, on gravel, sand, or rock. The coral thus will be correctly oriented with respect to the light, and will have sufficient room to move around. There should be no other corals, soft or hard, that the Heliofungia might contact as it moves around on the bottom. An exception is that there can be other Heliofungia. Heliofungia normally grows and thrives in captivity, but as I previously described, it is prone to infections. If the coral develops a brown jelly infection it is important to remove it from the aquarium. The fouling tissue from a dying Heliofungia may spread the infection to other corals, killing them in an effect like falling dominoes (Delbeek and Sprung, 1994).


Here's the link (http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...003/invert.htm) to the article.

Cool this is a good artical, I am doing everything that this artical suggest. It has no brown jelly crud on it any where. Now I am at a total loss.

Coleus 02-27-2010 05:14 PM

don't know much about these coral decease but I never feed my long tentacle plate coral because they never accept any food.

The Grizz 02-27-2010 05:42 PM

Mine either Tai but I think it is doomed to die, it is really not looking good. Just one more coral to add to my list of 'tried & died'

The Grizz 02-27-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmen (Post 496406)
By dipping it, I meant with either an iodine dip or Revive coral dip, something like that. Not sure if that is suggested for plates but I have used it for LPS successfully in the past to deal with brown jelly infection.
If the fish are picking it you can try to cover it with a strawberry basket until it can heal.
I have had the exact same thing happen with my brain (see my thread) and it has not been successful but worth a try I suppose.

This would be great to try if there was a LFS here that I could something to dip it in. This really sucks :sad:

The Grizz 02-27-2010 11:33 PM

Well I have some Revive coral dip on the way from Edmonton, going to set up my QT and hope it come's back.

the marine apprentice 02-28-2010 12:34 AM

the coral revive is in my car dude. ill see you when you getr home from supper


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