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viperfish 02-25-2010 01:01 AM

Vodka Dosing Long Term
 
Anyone been running vodka long term? I am very intrigued by it an would really like to start dosing vodka. It seems to have died off a little, then I was reading the latest edition of Coral magazine and the guy is dosing vodka with excellent results. The price is right for sure, I am just wondering who is still doing it?

globaldesigns 02-25-2010 02:06 AM

The new thing is vodka/carbon dosing using NP BioPellets. Reason is that they are alot safer, almost impossible to overdose and the results are incredible.

There are a few threads on this, with many of us giving our results over time. check them out, just search for BioPellets

Coleus 02-25-2010 05:58 AM

I did vodka dosing a couple weeks ago. I lost lots of frogspawn and hammer head. Be careful with dosing. I think i dosed it too fast into my tank, better getting it drip rather a whole amount into the tank

shrimpchips 02-25-2010 06:50 AM

I've been dosing since...May? Everything looks great and colour is more vibrant.

You really need a good skimmer and consistent dosing however - I think that is where most people fail. The biopellets are good, but they require more of the same to be effective - they have to be exported somehow. Bottom line is you need efficient protein skimming in order to take advantage of carbon dosing.

Powertec 02-25-2010 02:59 PM

I have been dosing vodka for two years with no problems, and have had no problems, and for the cost you cant lose.

untamed 02-26-2010 04:54 AM

I've been dosing a mix of Vodka, Vinegar, and Sugar (VSV) since September...only 6 months, I suppose. No problems, but I think my dosage is pretty low (6ml/500gallons)

Argentiner 02-26-2010 04:58 AM

I've been vodka dosing for a year and a half and have had nothing but great results from it. I dose 3mL/day for a 175gal tank.

viperfish 02-26-2010 12:52 PM

I am thinking the VSV method might be the thing to try. It seems to yield more diversity in bacteria populations.

fencer 02-26-2010 02:14 PM

This type of dosing is very hard on softies. It does work. The first sign of a problem polyps( like GSP) will start to disappear. I have a yellow colony and it was close to being wiped out. You are going to need something more rounded out. Ultralith and Zeo are good alternatives. The cost of VSV is about the same cost as an Ultra program. There are other source like vinegar and molasses that are cheaper and as effective as VSV if you want to go with that route

viperfish 02-26-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fencer (Post 496117)
This type of dosing is very hard on softies. It does work. The first sign of a problem polyps( like GSP) will start to disappear. I have a yellow colony and it was close to being wiped out. You are going to need something more rounded out. Ultralith and Zeo are good alternatives. The cost of VSV is about the same cost as an Ultra program. There are other source like vinegar and molasses that are cheaper and as effective as VSV if you want to go with that route

We're taliking about the same thing right? Vodka-Sugar-Vinegar, the Ultralith and Zeo programs are a lot more expensive. The startup cost and maintenance are insanely higher than a bottle of Vodka, some sugar and vinegar. Only thing is the Ultralith and Zeo are more of a "set and forget" than the VSV method. The more I look at the whole scenario, the more I am leaning toward the NP Pellets.

fencer 02-26-2010 03:53 PM

VSV was more expensive...I was dosing at a rate of 10ml/100gal/day. Even with the cheapest stuff I could find. As for Ultralith my dosing rate has slowed to every second day and the results are much better. I am sure this is true for zeo. Note you don't have to use all of Ultra or Zeo products to have a nice tank

viperfish 02-26-2010 04:21 PM

Does Ultralith sell a starter kit of some kind? What size reactor are you using? My tank is a 90 with a 35 Gal sump. Probably a 50/50 split SPS and LPS.

Werbo 02-26-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fencer (Post 496146)
VSV was more expensive...I was dosing at a rate of 10ml/100gal/day. Even with the cheapest stuff I could find. As for Ultralith my dosing rate has slowed to every second day and the results are much better. I am sure this is true for zeo. Note you don't have to use all of Ultra or Zeo products to have a nice tank

I have read alot but never done VSV but the cost is cheap.
Vodka - Sugar - Vinegar. The reciepe is 200ml of vodka, 1.5 tablespoons sugar and 50ml vinegar. 200 ml of vodka is under $5 and 50ml vinegar is nothing so I don't see how VSV is costing you any more that $5 for 25 days.
250ml/10ml a day = 25 days.

Then once your nitrates drop you start reducing to a maintenance dose of 1-2 ml per day for a 100G tank. At 2ml per day 250 ml of VSV will last over 4 months for approx $5.
Glassbox Designs has a good starting point article on VSV.

fencer 02-26-2010 04:53 PM

Yes they do have a starters kit as does Zeo. I think Red Coral carries both. My reactor is 1.5 l but you can get away with just hanging the zeo rock in the sump or a Phosban reactor. Just gotta to shake every other day.

Go to tank journals and search for ultralith....you find my thread there

wisesam 02-26-2010 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fencer (Post 496146)
VSV was more expensive...I was dosing at a rate of 10ml/100gal/day. Even with the cheapest stuff I could find. As for Ultralith my dosing rate has slowed to every second day and the results are much better. I am sure this is true for zeo. Note you don't have to use all of Ultra or Zeo products to have a nice tank

Wow, 10ml/100gal/day seems a lot.
For my 45G, I am now dosing 0.25ml daily as maintenance dose.


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