The Bubble Magus Club
 

We have now created a Bubble Magus Forum on Canreef so you all have a home to chat and ask questions about this new important brand.

All product announcements will now be here.

Shipping update

Factory departure date set for 30th January.

Whoooo!!!!!

Count me in! I'm running a nac7 and couldn't ask for anything more. I'll be starting another system soon and will be going with another one of these. Are you getting any nac7's with aquabee pumps?

First shipment has on it

BM150Pro
BM180Cs
BM220Cs

The BM180cs is the NA7 with aqua bee :)

what does one have to do to get one of these skimmers?

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Wait until they come into stock (mid to late feb) and then order from your nearest stocking retailer.

Check back in this thread to see who will be carrying them.

I'll join, I have the BMQQ skimmer for my nano and it does a very good job. Can't complain about the quality...I've seen other chinese skimmers and they don't even compare to Bubble-Magus quality.

I have seen some impressive reviewers on the BMQQ and its on our hot list for the second wave of skimmers leaving late Feb :)

Will you be distributing the BM dosers? If so, when would they be available?

The GHL doser out competes them in every respect. All model sizes available with built in controller with 1,2,3,4 pump options and each unit upgradeable.

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We will be bringing in most other items they do though as the range builds, this includes the pendant reflectors.

I'm interested in the bubble magnus as it out competes the GHL in price. I have no doubt the GHL is a much higher quality product.

You get what you pay for. The GHL are German built with two year warranites and the most sort after doser on the market. They are not as cheap but for a reason. The BM dosing peri pumps are not replaceable there is no part number for them to be replaced, big sales issue that one, there is also no expansion option and only the 3 pump is controllable and it cant be upgraded.

We will test a BM doser for 6 months prior to bringing anything in, the skimmers have been tested in an array of enviroments and are very popular due to their amazing performance, so they have already hit the ground running, however the dosers need to go through the same evaluation.

The dosers are yet to be tested, and if the pumps survive more than 6 months then we will look at them.

Simple answer I guess is - Not until proven or market warranted, i.e demand.

Aqua-Digital - you should learn little bit about product before you put something out, BM dosser is expendable to 11 channels and all can be controlled by head unit, and referring to "german build" 90% parts in GHL products are made in Japan, Singapore etc. so where is the "german" quality :mrgreen: but that's for different thread .......

Oh sigh here we go, why do post have to be always turned so negative!

I am not quite sure where you get your info from but it is I am sorry quite wrong. One thing that has made GHL so much sort after globally is their commitment to quality, and German parts and maunfacture, GHL will back this up as it is the foundation of their company ethos.

GHL do NOT use anything other than German mechanical parts and use where at all possible European electronic parts. The PCB's are assembled in house at the German factory. Even the extrusion work is done in house. If you would like to email GHL directly for confirmation please feel free to do so, I can give you the owners personal email address.

And if you still have doubts please see below a picture of the dosing motor just removed from a GHL doser assy. Please note the made in Germany sticker

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As the distributors for over 4 years now and personally know Matthias very well, I think I qualify very well knowing where the product comes from and where made, and am very aware of the product we distribute. I have also personally been in contact with the factory that makes GHL dosing peri pumps in Germany. Maybe you also missed the factory tour thread of GHL facility on RC. However they do also use depending on supply an American pump from time to time.


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The GHL PAB dosers can control multiple pumps, how many do you want 32 maybe or more?

Back to BM dosers - As said before until we have assured ourselves personally of the quality we will not market them, if they do look viable then we will, I am quite sure "most" people will see that as responsible distribution. Whichever way we will not be pressured into bringing a product to market that we have not yet tested or feel has been market tested, and nothing will change that.

At present we are concentrating on bringing in for everyone some really great skimmers that so many reefers really want easy and affordable access to, and from there we will grow the brand steadily and in good time making sure product service and client service is maintained at all times.

Up until now this thread and launch of Bubble Magus has been very positive with great feedback and support from CanReef members so I would like to please keep this forum on track and positive at all time ;) Please be assured CanReef members will be the first to know when we expand the range just please give us time to do things correctly.

SO Back now to Bubble Magus Skimmers -

oooo man you edited your post like 5 times ;), its not important from where those parts are (Japan, Singapore, Taiwan) what I want to say is just because something is put together in Germany from parts all around the world doesn't automatically mean its better then something from China (made from some parts) and quality of that product is just that good how good are those parts.......we use to say when I was working in Germany "Es ist nicht alles Gold, was glänzt" :wink:

P.S. I can also provide you with pictures of other parts used in GHL products not made in Germany :idea:

As we have never seen one single GHL dosing pumps manufacturer failure I am quite proud to stand by its quality, however I have not YET had the same pleasure to see this with Bubble magus dosers, and while parts are not being offered to us we are refraining from distributing them, and more importantly we will not until we have tested them.

My biggest concern with the BM doser is its flexibility, if you buy a 3 pump your stuck with it, what if you dont want 3 pumps or you want to add one pump? Also your options are 3 pump or by adding a 4 pump slave this becomes 7 or 11, you can never have 1, 2 4,5,6,8,9 or 10. There also does not seem to be a timed, or manual dosing option. It can dose 24 times a day but only in ml not timed doses.

Other than these I feel quite large gaps in performance, we will still evaluate one and if demand is there for sure we will stock them.

Please feel free to start a thread elsewhere with GHL pictures if you so choose, but not here as this forum is about Bubble Magus, I say this with kind as I really want to keep this thread on track.

Thank you ;)

Can you please post a link or PM it to me? I did miss that and would love to see it. Thanks.

Hi

its on the RC forum I can tpost link here due to their hot linking blocking software :(

Email me and I will send you the link ;)

Wahoo!

They have landed, and are on route from Vancouver to us as i type, we will have the shipment here Friday and start shipping to dealers on Monday!

if you are looking for a skimmer act fast many are pre sold.

Dealers that have the most stock are

progressive reef
Red Coral aquarium

Other dealers have ordered for clients specifically so if you want one either contact your vendor asap or one of the above listed companies.

the next shipment which is massive leaves Bubble Magus on the 20th April, this will have the NAC range of skimmers and more BM's

If there is a specific model you require please let us know now, we can arrange deposit and order it for you on a special.

Every dealer in the US is sold out of the BM dosing pump, I think that's market warranted. As for the Profilux, not everyone has a "money is no object" approach to reefing, if they did everyone would be buying Bubble King and there would be no demand for Bubble Magus.

Hi

This is actually very incorrect, nobody has them in NA not becuase they are sold out but becuase Bubble Magus have no stock to supply until May 2010.

When we can get spares for them and when we do not see reports of noisy pumps then we will look at them Bubble magus are very aware of this.

Of course we will market them we are not blind to the demand but one step at a time.

In regards to GHL dosers i guess you have not spotted the group buy going on right now where you can get up to 15% off!

Still really expensive with 15% off. To me at least

Hmm quality against compromise, its always hard to sell the bigger picture and what may cost you more in the long run.

I am in talks with Bubble Magus about bringing them in if i can get assurances over spares, but you also need to be aware that Bubble magus dosers are not as cheap as they were as they move into main stream supply chain. So your $299 doser is not going to be that by May. they will be $349

A GHL stand alone 3 that can be upgraded to 4,5,6,7,8 pumps (thats 4,5,6,7 pumps that the bubble magus cant), with discount is only $65 more.

This is another reason i am finding it hard to market something that only has a 1 year warranty, restricted upgrade and as yet no spares. Once these issues are resolved of course we will carry them, but first Bubble magus need to start making them again. that would help!

I orderd a BM220Cs through Interior Reef and am quite excited to get it!! a 300G tank with a EuroReef 135 doesnt cut it.

I'll be tagging along

Can you still get the GHL SA 2 Doser or only 3,4, etc models available now.

I'm really only interested in dosing Calcium & Alk

Yep SA2 in stock only at progressive reef they ordered 50 dosers recently :biggrin:

If they have run out I have one on the shelf that can be supplied to any dealer of your choice also.

Skimmers arrive Monday and will be shipping Monday ;)

Are you saying there is no warranty on any units already bought?

Yes of course, Bubble Magus have jus stream lined and made it more trackable for us, less fiddling about :)

I love my BM 220 what a great skimmer 1.5-2" of crap per day.. the tank is looking cleaner every day... corals are getting back to thier normal color before going to another skimmer.

Honestly, I had fears before we saw this skimmer, it had some big boots to fill in terms of reputation, but when i saw it in the flesh and the size of that Eheim, man was i relieved, and your review really proves its worth and value.

Just off the phone from one our Ontario dealers, they have back orders coming out their ears!

Wait until you see the new little cones coming in soon ;) in the economy NAC range ;) the replacment to the NAC3 and NAC3 plus is awsome.

this is what I get daily
 

this is what I get daily and the tank is getting super clean too.

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HOT skimmer :biggrin:

My BM150Pro even being in a tank way too small for it pulls gunk from no where it seems!

BM is the hot ticket in town right now for sure.

There seems to be an awful lot of emphasis put on warranty with BM and that BM won't stand behind it's product unless you only buy from one distributer. Am I reading into this wrong? It sounds to me like there is a lot of problems with BM products for all this warranty concern. I am looking at setting up a new 180g reef and want to get all the equipment together first including a good skimmer. I was looking at the BM brand but now I'm not so sure with all the concerns being brought up about product back up. I've never had any problems with any of my aquarium equipment before so I've never given warranty a thought, but after reading Aqua-Digital's post it's got me little concerned about the quality of the product. Has anyone had any issues with any of their BM products to date? For the price are they one of the better skimmers out there right now?

Any retailers in Vancouver , and what skimmer would be best for a 35 gallon sumpless tank

Hi

I understand fully your thinking about warranty looking from outside in.

NO there are no warranty issues at all, in fact we have not a single warranty claim to date.

The issue is us as the distributors making sure we can support people that have bought skimmers through us and not someone else, why would we wish to warranty another supply chain route?

This is all about protecting us from claims of products that were bought on the 'black market' so to speak.

Its all about what ifs and having a policy in place if the worst ever happened.

Progressive reef and the BM-QQ for the sumpless system

Amazing unit ;)

I have this same skimmer on my 90g and am very happy with it.

Well it's great to hear that you have had no issues with the product! What would you recommend for a well populated 180g reef tank? I don't understand though why you would be on the hook for the warranty, doesn't BM reimburse you for any warranty claims made? If I bought a Sony product and the retailer I got it from went out of business Sony would still honor the warranty themselves. When I worked at Zellers for awhile when I was younger anything brought back under warranty was sent back to the manufacturer for repair or the manufacturer repaid Zellers for a replacement item. I would hope that warranty claims don't come out of your own pocket after all BM is the manufacturer and should be responsible for their quality control. Regardless of who sells it BM still manufactured it.

Hi,

I would recommend the BM220cs for a heavily populated tank.

Yes BM do cover our claims if there was one, but only cover OUR claims, they have records of our purchases and if i tried to claim for a product we did not buy from them they would ask us to refer the claim to the distributor that did.

Walk into he sony store and ask them warranty a tv you bought at walmart and see what they say? ;) same policy really.