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OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-07-2010 08:14 PM

NEW IceCap LED tube arrays!
 
470 nm Blue LED’s

The LED tubes have the same look of a standard T5 tube, but they are powered by a low voltage transformer, not a fluorescent ballast. The T5 form provides a very even spread of the light over the entire aquarium. Encasing the LED's inside a T5-style tube protects them and their circuit boards from the harsh, salty, humid environment that is your normal saltwater aquarium. The IceCap LED arrays also have an aluminum heat sink on the backside of the tube to dissipate what little heat they generate. These two unique features to their LED arrays protect them from the elements (salt, humidity, and heat) that destroyed other brands of LED’s.

Wait till you see what they do for your corals!
Photo is an example of the LED tubes in action. This is Icecap's full hood, only shown to illustrate the power of the LEDs. Picture show
http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...led-sample.jpg

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...s/ice-tube.jpg
Photo showing example of LED tube mounted with T5 end caps and mounts.

LED’s boast low energy consumption and a long life span, but Icecap knows the reason you'll want them is what they will do to the appearance of the corals. They are designed to excite the green fluorescing proteins in corals. They particularly bring out yellows, oranges, reds, and greens. If you think your corals look good under actinics, you haven't seen anything yet! Mushrooms, zoanthids, Ricordea, and most any fleshly large polyp stony corals look amazing under the LED's. This immediate and stunning glow is guaranteed to wow anyone who views your tank during the “twilight” hours and they will continue to cause fluorescence when all the lights are on.

The LED retrofits ship with mounting clips to secure the LED tubes to a canopy, commercial hood or existing fixture. The weight should not be an issue because the 2-foot unit is only 4 oz. Power connection to the LED array is a power tail with a quick connect to a low voltage power supply, no hand wiring required.


Available for pre-order now!

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...ED%20strip.jpg





Zoaelite 01-07-2010 08:17 PM

Will these work as moon lights, or in your opinion are they to bright to use?
Levi

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-07-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 479226)
Will these work as moon lights, or in your opinion are they to bright to use?
Levi


One strip could be used as moon lights, especially if the small strip is used. They are pretty bright though!!

Ian

LeeR 01-07-2010 10:06 PM

pmed:mrgreen:

burrows14 01-07-2010 10:14 PM

Those are very cool:biggrin: will you carry those in the store? also any idea when the opening is?

cheers
Ray

Snaz 01-07-2010 10:17 PM

These are best for making the florescence of your corals really pop, they do nothing for growth. Ron99 would know better than I on how the lights do this but I think the very specific 470nm spectrum prevents "wash-out" that can happen with actinic or other blue light solutions.

LEDs typically haver poorer penetration than other lights so the deeper the water gives less florescence effect.

Comparison pictures would illustrate this better but I can't seem to Google anything worthwhile at the moment.

banditpowdercoat 01-07-2010 10:32 PM

Do you think on a 2ft wide tank, could get away with 1 strip in front of the MH? My 60" tank, I was going to run a 48" T5 on front and back of the 3 250W MH, But I was gona run actinic, so these would be better for sure :D

LeeR 01-07-2010 10:36 PM

i just want to replace my t5s on my giesemann system 230.. the t5s are tucked up in a odd spot and they dont do a hole lot

Myka 01-07-2010 10:46 PM

This is interesting, it's nice to see some new LED products on the market.

FitoPharmer 01-07-2010 10:48 PM

will or do they have a white version?

Ron99 01-07-2010 10:54 PM

I think that for actinic supplementation of MH or just for florescence these will probably be great but I am guessing they are no more than 0.5 or 1 watt LEDs with no optics so don't expect much PAR with them.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-07-2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron99 (Post 479283)
I think that for actinic supplementation of MH or just for florescence these will probably be great but I am guessing they are no more than 0.5 or 1 watt LEDs with no optics so don't expect much PAR with them.


You are correct, these are for Actinic supplementation and for color they are not sold as replacements for T5 high par lighting.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-07-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FitoPharmer (Post 479282)
will or do they have a white version?


I can't see them producing a white version anytime soon. These are not a focused high intensity LED, these are more for Actinic supplementation.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-07-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 479275)
Do you think on a 2ft wide tank, could get away with 1 strip in front of the MH? My 60" tank, I was going to run a 48" T5 on front and back of the 3 250W MH, But I was gona run actinic, so these would be better for sure :D


These would work better for you in that situation.....

Borderjumper 01-07-2010 11:08 PM

Its too bad these cant be powered from the fixture, replacing a t5 bulb. I have glass over the t5's in my fixture so theres no where for the power cord to exit, so I guess that wouldnt work

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-07-2010 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borderjumper (Post 479290)
Its too bad these cant be powered from the fixture, replacing a t5 bulb. I have glass over the t5's in my fixture so theres no where for the power cord to exit, so I guess that wouldnt work


I actually was thinking the same thing; however, these run on a much smaller amperage than a traditional T5, they do come with their own power supply though!

StirCrazy 01-07-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaz (Post 479269)
These are best for making the florescence of your corals really pop, they do nothing for growth. Ron99 would know better than I on how the lights do this but I think the very specific 470nm spectrum prevents "wash-out" that can happen with actinic or other blue light solutions.

LEDs typically haver poorer penetration than other lights so the deeper the water gives less florescence effect.

Comparison pictures would illustrate this better but I can't seem to Google anything worthwhile at the moment.

not realy true, with optics LEDs have fantastic penatration if you are using the right LEDs and the right drivers. I can't see thoes icecap being that great at first glance but I can't say for sure untill I see what types of leds they are using and at what current.

Steve

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-07-2010 11:21 PM

FYI,

I should be able to fulfill everyone's orders with in 10 days. It looks like these are going to be very popular!

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-08-2010 03:09 AM

We are putting our initial order in tomorrow for these arrays, anyone else interested should get them ordered on our website in order to get them on our next shipment.

mike31154 01-09-2010 12:57 AM

I haven't seen the power consumption numbers for any of these? It would be nice to know how many individual LEDs are in say, the 4 foot version. Please enlighten me, thanks.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-09-2010 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike31154 (Post 479635)
I haven't seen the power consumption numbers for any of these? It would be nice to know how many individual LEDs are in say, the 4 foot version. Please enlighten me, thanks.


According to Icecap the 4' array has 75 individual emitters. They are rumored to run on a 40 watt DC adapter.

mike31154 01-09-2010 04:33 AM

Thank you for that info!

burgerchow 01-09-2010 05:46 AM

ice cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanicCorals (Post 479225)
470 nm Blue LED’s

The LED tubes have the same look of a standard T5 tube, but they are powered by a low voltage transformer, not a fluorescent ballast. The T5 form provides a very even spread of the light over the entire aquarium. Encasing the LED's inside a T5-style tube protects them and their circuit boards from the harsh, salty, humid environment that is your normal saltwater aquarium. The IceCap LED arrays also have an aluminum heat sink on the backside of the tube to dissipate what little heat they generate. These two unique features to their LED arrays protect them from the elements (salt, humidity, and heat) that destroyed other brands of LED’s.

Wait till you see what they do for your corals!
Photo is an example of the LED tubes in action. This is Icecap's full hood, only shown to illustrate the power of the LEDs. Picture show
http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...led-sample.jpg

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...s/ice-tube.jpg
Photo showing example of LED tube mounted with T5 end caps and mounts.

LED’s boast low energy consumption and a long life span, but Icecap knows the reason you'll want them is what they will do to the appearance of the corals. They are designed to excite the green fluorescing proteins in corals. They particularly bring out yellows, oranges, reds, and greens. If you think your corals look good under actinics, you haven't seen anything yet! Mushrooms, zoanthids, Ricordea, and most any fleshly large polyp stony corals look amazing under the LED's. This immediate and stunning glow is guaranteed to wow anyone who views your tank during the “twilight” hours and they will continue to cause fluorescence when all the lights are on.

The LED retrofits ship with mounting clips to secure the LED tubes to a canopy, commercial hood or existing fixture. The weight should not be an issue because the 2-foot unit is only 4 oz. Power connection to the LED array is a power tail with a quick connect to a low voltage power supply, no hand wiring required.


Available for pre-order now!

http://www.oceaniccorals.com/store/i...ED%20strip.jpg






Will you be bringing in the ice cap reef illuminations fixtures? I'm interested in the 2x250 mh with the 2 2-5's and the led's. Was going to order from the states, but would rather buy local.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-11-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgerchow (Post 479778)
Will you be bringing in the ice cap reef illuminations fixtures? I'm interested in the 2x250 mh with the 2 2-5's and the led's. Was going to order from the states, but would rather buy local.


Yes, I can get you the fixture you are looking for, I was actually going to load those fixtures onto the website shortly.

The one you want would be $1099.00 CDN plus tax and shipping.

Ian

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-11-2010 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanicCorals (Post 479666)
According to Icecap the 4' array has 75 individual emitters. They are rumored to run on a 40 watt DC adapter.


***CORRECTION***

I spoke to the VP of Icecap today and was told that the 4' LED array has 75 emitters running at .1 watt per LED which equals 7.5 watts per strip.

The smaller array runs 35 emitters running on 3.5 (watts) of low voltage power.

Thanks!

Ian

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-11-2010 07:54 PM

I have lowered the price on the arrays slightly as an introductory offer, check our website for details!

banditpowdercoat 01-11-2010 09:46 PM

only .1W LED's No wonder theres so many of them. I wonder if they would be dimmable, I guess I'll find out when I get mine :D

mike31154 01-12-2010 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanicCorals (Post 480483)
***CORRECTION***

I spoke to the VP of Icecap today and was told that the 4' LED array has 75 emitters running at .1 watt per LED which equals 7.5 watts per strip.

The smaller array runs 35 emitters running on 3.5 amps of low voltage power.

Thanks!

Ian

Correction to the ***correction***, I think? You must mean 3.5 watts of low voltage power, not amps for the smaller array?

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-12-2010 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike31154 (Post 480629)
Correction to the ***correction***, I think? You must mean 3.5 watts of low voltage power, not amps for the smaller array?

You are correct on my correction!

George 01-13-2010 04:21 AM

supplement for 250W MH
 
Is anyone running this LED to supplement your MH light, especially 10K MH's? I am running 2 XM 250W 10K and looking for supplement in the 450nm/460nm spectrum. I am afraid that the XM's will "overpower" a LED strip.

Thanks for your input.
George

banditpowdercoat 01-13-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George (Post 480990)
Is anyone running this LED to supplement your MH light, especially 10K MH's? I am running 2 XM 250W 10K and looking for supplement in the 450nm/460nm spectrum. I am afraid that the XM's will "overpower" a LED strip.

Thanks for your input.
George

No one's running them yet george, they just came onto the market. But, there will be a few soon :D I am so clost to pulling the trigger on some too. But want to see how much "PoP" they add to someone elses tank first :D

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-13-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 481038)
No one's running them yet george, they just came onto the market. But, there will be a few soon :D I am so clost to pulling the trigger on some too. But want to see how much "PoP" they add to someone elses tank first :D


We are in the same boat, I am actually planning on installing two of the strips to each of our three main display tanks in the store.. People will be able to see them in use once our doors officially open....

Here is another picture of the strips in action....

http://www.reefbuilders.com/wp-conte...led-icecap.jpg

banditpowdercoat 01-13-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanicCorals (Post 481056)
We are in the same boat, I am actually planning on installing two of the strips to each of our three main display tanks in the store.. People will be able to see them in use once our doors officially open....

Here is another picture of the strips in action....

http://www.reefbuilders.com/wp-conte...led-icecap.jpg

ohh interesting. Looks like they will mount in a T5 fixture/socket, but take their own power supply?

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-13-2010 03:35 PM

Here is another line of LED strips that I will also be ordering, keep in mind these are a fair bit more expensive but do run at a higher wattage using higher performance LED's.

http://reefbuilders.com/2010/01/04/r...-feet-of-reef/

Here is an example of what LED light strips can do for coloration of your Corals.

http://www.reefbuilders.com/wp-conte...d-3ft-deep.gif

OceanicCorals-Ian- 01-13-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 481057)
ohh interesting. Looks like they will mount in a T5 fixture/socket, but take their own power supply?

Yes, the nice part about the Icecap strips is that they mount using any standard T5 sockets; however, they run off their own power supply (included).

banditpowdercoat 01-13-2010 04:08 PM

Now, how will that affect the T5 ballast wonder? Most are required to have pairs of bulbs. Wondering if this will fool the ballast? Not that I will need it, but for some people

Ron99 01-13-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 481066)
Now, how will that affect the T5 ballast wonder? Most are required to have pairs of bulbs. Wondering if this will fool the ballast? Not that I will need it, but for some people

I suspect the mount is plastic or insulated so it doesn't actually draw power from the endcaps. Just a guess but it would make sense.

Depending on the spectrum of the LEDs they can really bring out the florescence in the corals. The royal blue LEDs in my iReef really bring out the colours, it's just hard to capture in camera. You have to see it in person.

nlreefguy 01-13-2010 05:08 PM

I'm really anxious for someone to post some results, but I do realize nobody probably has them in hand yet. This is a perfect way for anyone with tight space in their canopies and big MH reflectors to get some actinic supplementation. I notice on several threads on RC, though, that people are referring to them as "moonlights". These have more intensity than moonlights, don't they?

banditpowdercoat 01-13-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron99 (Post 481079)
I suspect the mount is plastic or insulated so it doesn't actually draw power from the endcaps. Just a guess but it would make sense.

Depending on the spectrum of the LEDs they can really bring out the florescence in the corals. The royal blue LEDs in my iReef really bring out the colours, it's just hard to capture in camera. You have to see it in person.

Yes, it's been stated that they don't take power form the T5 ballast. What I am concerned with is the ballast not having 2 bulbs on it. Most ballast's need both bulbs to work properly. Take one away and the ballast doesn't light the other properly and is hard on them. Would just hate to see people put 1 of these in, and ruin an otherwise good ballast trying to drive the other T5

Ron99 01-13-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 481083)
Yes, it's been stated that they don't take power form the T5 ballast. What I am concerned with is the ballast not having 2 bulbs on it. Most ballast's need both bulbs to work properly. Take one away and the ballast doesn't light the other properly and is hard on them. Would just hate to see people put 1 of these in, and ruin an otherwise good ballast trying to drive the other T5

Ahhh, right. Good point.


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