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Black Phantom 09-24-2009 09:01 PM

Fan Noise
 
I've got a Coralife 250 MH setup with a built in fan. I'd like to reduce the noise level a bit.
The fan is out of the unit right now so if anyone has some great ideas please let me know.
The fan is 120 mm square and 120 volt.

sphelps 09-24-2009 09:34 PM

you can get 120mm x 25mm and 120mm x 38mm computer fans. They are 12VDC so you'll need an adapter but they should be quieter, usually around 29dBA.

mseepman 09-24-2009 10:09 PM

I concur with Sphelps...but you can also get replacement fans from Coralife and it will probably be quiet for a while before it too gets noisy.

If you go with the PC fan option, there are several good fans out there that are really quite quiet. You could also put more than one fan in as I found multiple spots when I opened my fixture. Since you have to re-wire the DC fan in anyway, doing two is just as easy.

globaldesigns 09-24-2009 10:12 PM

I agree, replace the fan...

I have the same unit, and mine is quite, I don't hear a thing. You can go to Memory Express (2 locations in Calgary) and get one there, most likely will be under $10

Your old one, the bearings are probably worn out or faulty.

hillegom 09-25-2009 12:38 AM

Idon't know how these fans look, But I had a computer fan that started to make noise.
I peeled the decal off of one side, and put a drop of thin machine oil onto the bearing.
It would stay quiet for about 2 months and then I would have to repeat.
Any thin oil would work. All depends on the condition of the bearing. It does not take much oil!

globaldesigns 09-25-2009 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hillegom (Post 450218)
Idon't know how these fans look, But I had a computer fan that started to make noise.
I peeled the decal off of one side, and put a drop of thin machine oil onto the bearing.
It would stay quiet for about 2 months and then I would have to repeat.
Any thin oil would work. All depends on the condition of the bearing. It does not take much oil!

Many fans have sealed bearings, so I wouldn't recommend oil, as it may not work well, but also hat oil could get into your tank. Fans are cheap, so I would just replace

mseepman 09-25-2009 04:46 AM

I agree...oil is just too risky.

hillegom 09-25-2009 05:09 AM

You certainly do not want oil to fall into the water. That is why I said just a little. You could always put oil onto a toothpick and apply it like that.
But you are right, these computer like fans are cheap. And that is why you won't find any with sealed bearings

globaldesigns 09-25-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillegom (Post 450272)
You certainly do not want oil to fall into the water. That is why I said just a little. You could always put oil onto a toothpick and apply it like that.
But you are right, these computer like fans are cheap. And that is why you won't find any with sealed bearings

All the fans I have ever purchased are sealed, and over the years I have bought many as I own a web hosting company and have a half decent sized data centre so keeping fans on stock is always necessary... Go to Memory Express, get a Sunon fan, they are the best and will cost you about $10-15 for the one that fits the canopy.

Black Phantom 09-25-2009 04:58 PM

I'm good with the computer fan idea but correct me if i'm wrong. I have to convert 120 Volt AC to 12 Volt DC. There's no room in the unit to accomodate any kind of transformer to step down the voltage. The issue is there are three power cords coming into the light. One for the MH bulb, one for the Actinic and one for the lunar lights.
There's really no room to put in anything else.

globaldesigns 09-25-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Phantom (Post 450345)
I'm good with the computer fan idea but correct me if i'm wrong. I have to convert 120 Volt AC to 12 Volt DC. There's no room in the unit to accomodate any kind of transformer to step down the voltage. The issue is there are three power cords coming into the light. One for the MH bulb, one for the Actinic and one for the lunar lights.
There's really no room to put in anything else.

My fan is the right connection for the unit (12V), basically the little rectangle plug that is stock with computer fans. My fan that came stock in it is a Sunon. I doubt yours is running at 120V, but yeah you need to verify this.

Black Phantom 09-25-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by globaldesigns (Post 450358)
i doubt yours is running at 120v, but yeah you need to verify this.

Don't doubt it. I'm pretty good at the electrical stuff and my fancy little multimeter shows a line voltage of 120.
The fans are a fairly cheap unit manufactured in China. The problem is they are a five blade unit so they are making up the lack of air volume by running at high RPM.
The better computer fans are running 7 or more blades and are designed for more volume with less speed.
So what I need is at least 7 blades running around 1800 RPM or less.
I can try rheostat the present fan but I'm worried if I slow it down it will overheat.
Thats my problem

globaldesigns 09-25-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Phantom (Post 450359)
Don't doubt it. I'm pretty good at the electrical stuff and my fancy little multimeter shows a line voltage of 120.
The fans are a fairly cheap unit manufactured in China. The problem is they are a five blade unit so they are making up the lack of air volume by running at high RPM.
The better computer fans are running 7 or more blades and are designed for more volume with less speed.
So what I need is at least 7 blades running around 1800 RPM or less.
I can try rheostat the present fan but I'm worried if I slow it down it will overheat.
Thats my problem

Well, meters don't lie... Maybe see what the manufacturer will charge for a replacement... Usually they don't gouge that much for parts. Then you don't have to fuss around with something not made for it.

Here is a link to show you the cost, very cheap overall: http://www.aquariumpart.com/Coralife...Parts_s/34.htm, I would give Kevin @ Red Coral a call, he most likely can get one in for you. If not then try Dennis @ Golds

Black Phantom 09-25-2009 08:24 PM

Thanks for the link. Sorry, I should have been more specific at the beginning. The fan I have is running ok (just loud). I pulled it out as I assumed it would be a simple thing to locate another fan. "wrong"
I might just put it back in and run my MH earlier in the day. Then run my Actinics and Lunar lights after 6.
The fan only runs when the MH are on.


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