ID on SPS please - New one added Oct 7
 

Alright, here's my latest "what the heck is it anyway?" :D

(Not my picture)
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k43/Myka82/28.jpg

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Ok, how about this sweet new piece? No sign of polyps yet... :neutral:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...ept1020094.jpg

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Original Thread:

I just got some frags, and asked the guy to send me some pics of the mother colonies as he didn't know the ID of them. I tried to edit them a bit so they are easier to see. I'm not sure if they are good enough for an ID or not?? He says they are different from eachother, but they sure look a lot alike!! These are his pics not mine:

Colony 1:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...hercolony2.jpg



Colony 2:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...thercolony.jpg

just putting this out there, but maybe valida for the first?
and Nana for the second?

they both look the same to me but either nana or valida

The frags are more like micro colonies, if I got some good close ups of them would that help since you can see the growth pattern of the mothers, then maybe the structure would be identifiable by the frags? I can't even see the difference from valida and nana from doing Google searches... :lol: The second one was sold to me as "tricolor acros" if that helps at all...I doubt it.

Ya the "tri-color" part of the name applies to many acros....I was gonna ID them the other way around:lol: colony 1 Nana, colony 2 valida...either way....looks like a couple of nice pieces there....

Ok, here's the frags...and after using a magnifying glass I notice the tricolor has RED BUGS!!! :censored: :mad2: :censored: None of my other SPS seem affected...yet. Hmmm, I wonder how quickly I can get my hands on some Interceptor around here? Probably cost me a vet visit for my dog...uhm ok that frag is probably getting canned, one frag isn't worth the cost of a vet visit. Maybe I will try a fw dip first or something.

Anyway...

This frag:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...2/IMG_1191.jpg

From this colony:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...hercolony2.jpg


And this frag (with red bugs...look close):
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...2/IMG_1193.jpg

From this colony:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...thercolony.jpg

So...do the new closeups help at all?

both are receding the same.Could be AEFW, wouldnt want a frag of those guys.

I would venture to say, first one nana, second one valida.

Thanks fooser. :)

If you take a read what I posted it's actually red bugs, just noticed them yesterday while I was using a magnifying glass for photos. No flatworms. I thought the recession was just from a rough trip they took to get to my place and the fact the were fresh cut frags shipped to me. I'm sure they will heal up. Luckily they are the only two Acros in my tank. Interceptor dips from now on...lesson learned.

Thanks for the input everyone! I will go with majority vote. :)

Red bugs seem to be gone. I'm crossing my fingers I caught them early enough, and that is all I will see of them!!

Ok, how about this sweet new piece? No sign of polyps yet... :neutral:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...ept1020094.jpg

Ttt.

In my opinion the first two look to be varities a.valida and the 3rd I would guess a.horrida but it needs to grow more for a positive ID.

Not sure of the scientific name but looks a little like a candlelight acro, very sought after if it turns out to be one.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...t20Acro202.jpg

How does one use Intercetor to dip acro frags for red bugs? What concentration of drug in the water and how long do you leave them in the dip?

Should one dip all new corals??

Do you use SW or RO water to make it up?

If you can use it can you also use Program? Program comes in liquid formulations..would you use that? Both inhibit chiton (exoskeleton) developement.

Can you use Advantage or Revolution as they actually are cidal for many external arthropods.

Thanks for your replies Snappy and Oceanic! :) You're right Snappy, it does look like a horrida when I Google, but I could easily miss distinguishing factors on SPS. Oceanic, that sure would be cool if it turned out to be a Candlelight Acro. I've never seen one before. I actually thought it was a Bali Tricolor type when I bought it, but when I looked closer in my tank, it is obviously not a Tricolor. I'm interested to see the color of the polyps, but they still aren't out. I may have seen a peek of a couple last night, and they appeared to be blue, which would be in line with the Candlelight I think. I'm pretty stoked on this new addition no matter what it turns out to be. :) One of my RBTAs is threatening it this morning. Grrr...

JPotter, I answered your questions here: http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=55913

Hey Myka, we went to Bayside last night and picked up the other one that was pretty much the same. Very excited to see what it turns out like!

Oh cool! I was wondering who would get the other one. :) Do you have many SPS?

We don't have many at this point because we are still building stock back up after a big crash. We have a rainbow stylo, an acropora austera, a baby blue milli (all Coral Master stock though purchased from someone else). It will be an sps dominated tank one it is back running at full capacity, just installed new lights tonight so that should help.

The polyps will be a purplish brown color. :)

That's what I'm thinking, but if I look in the little holes, they might be sky blue.

Anyone know the ID on this one? (not my pic)
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k43/Myka82/28.jpg

I don't know what it is, but I sure do want a piece!
Where did you find this piece?
I would think Coral Master would have some idea of the name though, even if it is not the "common" name.

I almost grabbed that one in my last order. Maybe Ken ordered it and I can grab it when it comes in.

It looks like a cerealis or secale to me.

Thanks Nebthet, I will look those up and see if I can ID. (Edit: I don't think either of those are it, the corallites are very rounded, the coral almost appear bulbous and smooth, and the polyps are very small). To my untrained eyes, it almost looks like a branching Monti.)

The frag I got is actually from Fragalot although I noticed Coral Master does seem to have the same piece. There was a group order here (so no shipping fees) and I figured I would give it a shot since there were a few pieces on the $10 frag list that were very tempting. 3 of 5 frags looks great (bigger than expected too), one RTN'd about 60% (it was a huge frag though), and the last one was DOA. Still, I got 3 good frags, and a so so for $50. Not bad. :D

At first glance I thought it was an Acropora maryae (the same as the famed purple monster), but I'm not sure of that. Looks kind of like an Acrpora squarrosa too:
http://data.aims.gov.au/coralpages/H...0pages/696.htm

But then again, they're probably both wrong. Damn acropora IDs <_<

Jeez, I haven't even heard of most of these!! :o

You might be right with squarrosa...if not, that is very close. Definitely not maryae. After hunting around on that site you linked to above, I think it might be Acropora plantaginea. The color descriptions match too seeing as the base color is yellow-brown. That's a great site! Book marked it. :D

Looks deepwater to me, other than that can't help. You may get better results here

Yeah, don't think it's a maryae either.

The AIMS coral pages are probably among the best online place to ID SPS corals - although a bit tricky to navigate. But they have pictures of whole large colonies to close up of bare skeletons, which makes for easier IDing.

And a lot of pretty pictures :D

Does the frag you received look like the pic? I'm asking because Ken does have one coming so I think I'll grab it.

it looks like a colorful fuzzy stick to me:lol:

A. squarrosa is the closest to the picture displayed. The Axial corallites look exactly like its radial corallites.. a big distinction in A. squarrosa.

Thanks Atomikk, I think that's the best ID I can get for now. Maybe revisit it in a year when it has grown.

Yep, they match. :D All the frags I got from Fragalot were correct to the photos.

Myka, when those colonies get a little larger, I may need to procure a small frag... for identification purposes >>

I know Vlad knows his stuff and all, but just saying :D

No, you take the credit... :)

Haha, you guys are funny!!

:D

Myka, do you have that coral now? Has it changed colour?