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Red Coral Aquariums 01-24-2009 11:27 PM

Stampede Toyota & Red Coral 400g Build
 
Stampede Toyota & Red Coral Aquarium are proud to announce a 400 gallon display salt water tank build. Stampede Toyota is in the process of completing a new facility off Barlow and 32nd in Calgary which will house a fish dominated 400 gallon aquarium for customer enjoyment. Red Coral would like to invite all interested to join us in this build as we encourage POSITIVE feedback.

Tank dimensions are 126" x 24" x 31.5" high

Sump 1 is 60" x 18" x 24" high

Sump 2 SW mixing station 20" x 30" x 32" high

Sump 3 FW top up station 20" x 30" x 32" high

Automated system and setup

T5 HO lighting

Oversized Skimmer

UV Sterilizer and RO/DI Unit

Tunze Auto Top Off

Metal Stand.


Pictures to come as they develop .

Kevin
Red Coral Aquarium

digital-audiophile 01-24-2009 11:31 PM

Spounds like it will be sweet. Why so little depth though?

Red Coral Aquariums 01-24-2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital-audiophile (Post 380546)
Spounds like it will be sweet. Why so little depth though?

Space restriction unfortunately. But the length makes up for the lack of depth and will be perfect for a FOWLR (fish only with live rock) setup.
Kevin

Myka 01-24-2009 11:56 PM

Can't wait for pics!! Any thoughts on stocking options?

JDigital 01-24-2009 11:58 PM

Awesome.. This will be a sweet build thread.

Keri 01-25-2009 12:18 AM

That's so awesome....I'm the kind of person who would choose a dealership with a tank over one without....or a restaurant....or a dentists' office... ;)

EmilyB 01-25-2009 12:30 AM

That's very exciting ! :mrgreen:

christyf5 01-25-2009 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keri (Post 380560)
That's so awesome....I'm the kind of person who would choose a dealership with a tank over one without....or a restaurant....or a dentists' office... ;)

LOL, yeah I'd probly be the same :razz:

A couple years ago I chose a local restaurant with two huge cylindrical tanks full of salmon/rockfish/etc. The food was no hell but the view was fantastic! :wink:

Carmen 01-25-2009 01:09 AM

Excellent Opportunity Kevin!! So glad you could share it with us all!

i have crabs 01-25-2009 01:13 AM

id like to donate one "SHOW SIZE" speckled grouper :)

Delphinus 01-25-2009 02:32 AM

Neat!! :)

Trigger Man 01-25-2009 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5 (Post 380577)
LOL, yeah I'd probly be the same :razz:

A couple years ago I chose a local restaurant with two huge cylindrical tanks full of salmon/rockfish/etc. The food was no hell but the view was fantastic! :wink:

great to know I'm not the only one like that. Fish tanks (preferably saltwater) and those reward points cards get me every time.

Oh ya, back on topic, great for you guys Kevin and Doug, I guess I'm gonna have to check out that toyota dealership when the tank is all setup.

ColinD 01-25-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5 (Post 380577)
LOL, yeah I'd probly be the same :razz:

A couple years ago I chose a local restaurant with two huge cylindrical tanks full of salmon/rockfish/etc. The food was no hell but the view was fantastic! :wink:

Hopefully it wasn't The Landing, I was the Chef there from Oct 03 to Aug 05 :surprise:

Cool Tank build guys, just down the road from work so I will be watching the progress.

Colin

Red Coral Aquariums 01-25-2009 04:57 PM

Thank You all for the encouragement and the kind words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 380553)
Can't wait for pics!! Any thoughts on stocking options?

With the 126" length large angels and large tangs (Sohol, Archilles, etc).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keri (Post 380560)
That's so awesome....I'm the kind of person who would choose a dealership with a tank over one without....or a restaurant....or a dentists' office... ;)

I cannot agree more Keri. Red Coral has the maintenance contract and maintenance was a major factor with Ownership and staff at Stampede Toyota and our maintenance staff is second to none. Now on the other hand I have seen restaurants, dealerships, and business that have aquariums that are maintained poorly which I believe reflect on THEIR products and service as a whole.

Quote:

Originally Posted by i have crabs (Post 380581)
id like to donate one "SHOW SIZE" speckled grouper :)

Thank you for the offer but the grouper might be a little aggressive as ST wishes might include Anthias and Clowns.


The projected opening date for Stampede Toyota is April 2009 so we must have everything set up, the tank cycled and viewable by then.

- A little more about the setup.
The tank will be viewable from 3 sides with an overflow built on one complete end. A "herbie" setup will nearly eliminate noise. Feeding and lights will be on timers.
Cycle- To help the cycle along we will be using cured live rock and adding around 200 gallons of water from fish bank tanks from the store. The live rock will have sat in this water for 6 weeks or more before placement into the tank.
Due to the tanks minimal depth Red Coral will be making PVC structures to place the live rock down the middle of the tank as it is viewable on both large sides.

The stand has been constructed (trigger coatings) and delivered and set up. Information about the stand (from the trigger coatings mouth) and pictures will be put up this evening Jan 25th.

Kevin

untamed 01-25-2009 07:09 PM

I'm very curious to know what "oversized" skimmer you think is required. Are you going to try to fit this skimmer under the tank? That will be a trick.

Red Coral Aquariums 01-25-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by untamed (Post 380766)
I'm very curious to know what "oversized" skimmer you think is required. Are you going to try to fit this skimmer under the tank? That will be a trick.

At Red Coral we carry Hydor Skimmers and since we sell and service them and they wholesale out of Calgary we felt it would be our best option.
Performer 3000
26 in height
16.5x21.5 in footprint
793 gal heavy stocking
1057 gal normal stocking
3 recirc pumps
1 feed pump

With the inside of the sump at 17" and the possibility of going 21" inside and inside height of stand at 38.5" and also since the sump is dedicated to the P Skimmer we should have lots of room for maintenance. Any suggestions would be helpful. We do not want to carry a skimmer that there could be a possibility of not having readily available parts for and don't really have the room or financing to hold an additional one.

Kevin

Myka 01-25-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Coral Aquariums (Post 380730)
With the 126" length large angels and large tangs (Sohol, Archilles, etc).

Awesome!!! That would be my choice as well! Good luck with the Achilles. ;)

Red Coral Aquariums 01-26-2009 02:36 AM

stand update with pics
 
The stand was delivered and will be permanently set up when work on the counter top (that runs from the open end out) begins.
We fastened pressure treated 3/4" plywood on top and bottom of the stand.
Here is a detailed description from Francis (Trigger Coatings) on the dynamics and details of the stand.

"For the steel, I used two dimensions of what industry calls HSS (which stands for "hollow structural sections")

The uprights (legs), diagonal braces and the floor perimeter were made with 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" x 1/8" wall square tube. I used this based on it's rating of 13 Kips for a 3' column (1 Kip = 1000 lbs) so each leg supports about 13,000 lbs of concentric load! In a real world the forces may not be 100% centred straight down so this is why I tend to "over engineer" things.

For the top frame I used 3" x 1 1/2" x 1/8" wall. This unfortunately doubles the steel cost but was used because of the requirement of the 49" wide opening to fit the sump through. A 4' span (beam) in 1 1/2" square isn't even listed in my references, the max width shown is 3' which is only rated at 1800 lbs and almost a 1/4" deflection in the center...too much risk in my opinion with 4000 lbs of water and tank. The 3"x 1 1/2" I used is rated at 3500 lbs over a 4' span with only 0.17" deflection. This is why the stands at BXXXls scare me..4' wide with 1 1/2" tube that not even rated for structural use (less than 1/8" wall)

Enough technical steel info..boring you to death right?

Corners were all mitre cut at 45 deg. so that both pieces of steel are sitting on the uprights (legs)...not relying on just welds to support weight of the tank. Completely seal welded so that no moisture can collect inside the tubes and cause corrosion (another problem with the cheapo stands)

After welding was completed, the entire stand was sandblasted, this removes any rust and/or welding contaminants and also provides a surface that improves paint adhesion.

For paint I used Endura's Intermix 3:1 two-part epoxy primer. This was topcoated in Endura EX-2C polyurethane (Black 160) For more info on Endura's paints check out their website: http://www.endura.ca/

This is the same paint I use for painting about 90% of the time. We use it for oilfield equipment, trailers and heavy trucks."


http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/P1240135.jpg

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/P1240136.jpg

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/P1240137.jpg

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/P1240139.jpg

Cheers
Kevin

Trigger Man 01-26-2009 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 380834)
Awesome!!! That would be my choice as well! Good luck with the Achilles. ;)

I was going to say the same thing, great fish but might be to much care issues to worry about.

Nate 01-26-2009 03:29 AM

you got it right on the skimmer kevin...hydor is no problem for me to get you parts...been using one on my personal tank for a while now, and I am going to start switching over all of my customers tanks to them now. They are a great skimmer.

tang daddy 01-26-2009 06:08 AM

looks like this will be a nice build!

Pan 01-26-2009 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 380834)
Awesome!!! That would be my choice as well! Good luck with the Achilles. ;)

What no Clown gobies..? Sheesh

Red Coral Aquariums 03-11-2009 05:43 AM

Update March
 
An update finally.


The metal Frame has been leveled and bolted to the cement floor.
The Skimmer and return sump has been added.
The main tank shell has been constructed.
The wall where the overflow will be tucked in is finished.
The Electrical 2 x 20 amp with GFI breakers and GFI main panel breakers is in place.


Pictures thanks to JDigital.

You can see where the overflow part of the tank will be tucked into the wall. The rock wall will have a bigscreen tv on it.

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/Toyota2.jpg

An amazing shot it looks a mile long (actually 126")

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/Toyota3.jpg

Skimmer and return sump with 2" Bulkhead hole for Sequence Dart Pump.

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/Toyota6.jpg

Another view showing room left over under the stand for the RO water and Salt mixing sumps.

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/Toyota4.jpg

2" bulkhead hole for drain 1.5" emergency 1.5" for return

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/Toyota9.jpg

Here's a great overhead shot (Geeze I am funny looking)

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/Toyota7.jpg


Note to self:

Things I plan on having accomplished this week/weekend

1) Ultra quiet BR fan in place above main tank overflow with access to from the top.
2) Finish the main tank with Eurobracing top and bottom.
3) Build PVC racks for holding live rock.
4) specs drawn out for metal Main tank canopy.
5) Draw up plans for R/O tank and Salt mixing tank


I'll keep up with the updates
Thanks for looking
Kevin

Delphinus 03-11-2009 05:53 AM

Neat. :cool:

Alberta-newb 03-11-2009 07:10 AM

Thanks for the pics....wow that tank looks huge in those shots! Makes the 90 gal fuge look tiny.

brizzo 03-11-2009 04:25 PM

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/Toyota9.jpg

Any idea what brand bit was used, or method to get such perfect holes?

sitandwatch 03-11-2009 04:30 PM

I like the sign that says "do not tap or touch the glass" any finger prints yet?

Rbacchiega 03-11-2009 05:08 PM

Colour me Excited!

fdiddy 03-11-2009 06:39 PM

Business at Toyota must be good still ;) Great tank!

JDigital 03-11-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdiddy (Post 398248)
Business at Toyota must be good still ;) Great tank!

.... or at least better than the Big 3.. :lol:

mseepman 03-11-2009 08:09 PM

I don't know...37% loss at Toyota isn't much better than the 40% at Ford last month. That being said, I know the people at Stampede and they are great.

Snappy 03-11-2009 11:31 PM

Kevin I guess I am lucky I didn't get hurt because I forgot to wear a hard hat during my tank build.:razz:

Will the tank be covered until the construction is completed? Likely pretty dusty.

Red Coral Aquariums 03-12-2009 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snappy (Post 398382)
Kevin I guess I am lucky I didn't get hurt because I forgot to wear a hard hat during my tank build.:razz:

Will the tank be covered until the construction is completed? Likely pretty dusty.

Ya a hard hat would have come in handy on your job. There is cardboard covering the top but it will still get a good water and vinegar rinse. Thanks for the input all.
Kevin

andestang 03-13-2009 12:43 AM

Kevin, looking really good. Are you planning on using any powerheads in it? BB or sand bed ?

StirCrazy 03-13-2009 03:35 AM

how are you going to handle water flow in that tank, seeing as you are putting a strip of rock down the middle you have the opertunity to use some mass water flow principles, allowing you to creats massive water flow with minimal pumps.

Steve

Red Coral Aquariums 03-13-2009 04:29 AM

andestang Kevin, looking really good. Are you planning on using any powerheads in it? BB or sand bed ?

**I havn't determined on the powerheads yet, It will definitely be coarse sand bed.

StirCrazy how are you going to handle water flow in that tank, seeing as you are putting a strip of rock down the middle you have the opertunity to use some mass water flow principles, allowing you to creats massive water flow with minimal pumps.

** I will be running a Sequence Dart or Hammerhead for the return pump. It will be plumbed up the overflow hidden in the wall and run across the inside of the top canopy with 1.5" tube. At 6 or 8 different points on this tube we will have it split to 3/4" loc-line with the majority of the pressure going to the front end. This will skim the top surface and keep enough disturbance in the water to suspend debris to be pushed into the overflow.

Thanks all for your interest and the kind words.
Kevin

Purple 03-13-2009 11:37 PM

Can't wait to see the finished product, they couldn't have picked better people to build it! Do you think they will let us move in? :biggrin:

workn2hard2day 03-27-2009 07:12 PM

any update on this tank? Isn't the dealership opening soon?

Red Coral Aquariums 04-26-2009 04:31 PM

Update for April 25 /09
 
Things are starting to move along now as opening day is approaching. I am not sure of the exact opening day but suspect it to be middle to end of May.
Saturday the 26th I was able to get the majority of the plumbing done and finally was able to take some pictures.

* http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01005.jpg

Here I ran two water lines a 1/2" in and a 3/4" drain. I am glad I was able to run it before they got the rest of the cabinets in. You can see where the drain and water line is coming out of the floor. Above that will be a coffee maker and sink.

*http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01002.jpg

This is where those hoses end up at the two water change tanks. I will have the 3/4" out plumbed into the return from the sump controlled by a ball valve. The 1/2" will be hooked up to a r/o type water filtration unit.

*http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01001.jpg

Here I have set up a Sequence Dart return pump plumbed from the sump with unions and ball valves in case we need to pull it out for cleaning and maintenance. The return will be pumped through the 1.5" line through the center bulkhead in the over flow. Here we will run the 1.5" line through the canopy to the front end of the tank. There will be minimum four loc-lines dropped down from that at different stages of the canopy. The majority of the return will go at the end to push the surface water to the over flow.

*http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01003.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01004.jpg

Gate valve for Herbie overflow setup and plumbing for water change tanks(not complete as I don't have the mixing pumps in).

*http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01010.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01009.jpg

As you can see the mill works is coming along and all our measurements were perfect. The cladding covers the bottom of the tank just covering the top of the silicone. The canopy will be painted the same color as the wall.

*http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01008.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ms/ST01007.jpg

This is a clean look and with the matching canopy; it will have a stunning effect.

Things to accomplish.

- canopy delivered this week.
fasten lighting and water return pipe.
- Run 2 surge protectors and fasten into place under the stand and set up timers.
- Start drilling Live Rock to place on pvc structure (pvc already completed sorry no pic.) Live rock is cured and ready to go.
- Bring equipment (setup UV sterilizer, mixing pumps, )
-Next weekend water and plumbing test.

Kevin and the Red Coral Team

Rbacchiega 04-26-2009 04:34 PM

looks great Kevin! If there's anything I can help with let me know


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