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Sam1969 01-06-2009 02:15 AM

Protein Skimmer ... Which one ?
 
So I have figured out a few things and one of them is that I will be going with a sump and protein skimmer. My next question is how much do I really need to spend on a protein skimmer ? I have done some research and I see some cheap coralife skimmers for about 150.00 that say they are good for 125 gal which is basically what I have; 90 gal tank & 40 gal sump. Then I see others for 1200.00 ... good grief .... its a piece of plastic with a pump ... also I dont want alot of noise as this will be in my living room and if its noisy my wife will lose her marbles ... its the small things that drive her crazy ..LOL

I want to be able to keep hard & soft corals with a small fish population

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

banditpowdercoat 01-06-2009 02:25 AM

simple answer, as much as you can afford. Seriously. Skimmers seem to be the You get what you pay for thing. And good ones are quiet. I have a not so expensive one LOL. Coralife's I hear are not very good. I have a AquaC urchin. Was going for the EV120 but got a deal on this used. Its a little noisy cause its a spray style not a bubble style.

johncody 01-06-2009 02:51 AM

A good Skimmer
 
I just bought a Vertex 250 from JL and its rated for 250 Gallon so yours for a 120 or 150 would be a bit less in cost i payed 400.00 for mine. Nice skimmer too.
here is link http://www.jlaquatics.com/info/340/O...+Skimmers.html

Sam1969 01-06-2009 03:15 AM

some of these emphasize that its a recirculating skimmer .. whats the difference or is there one ?

Sam1969 01-06-2009 03:18 AM

how is the vertex ? is it noisy ?

fkshiu 01-06-2009 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam1969 (Post 374845)
how is the vertex ? is it noisy ?

"Noisy" is a relative and subjective term. It is quite noisy compared to a "$1,200 piece of plastic with a pump" but it's not like you can't hear yourself think while one is on. It's best for you to see and listen to one in action to judge for yourself.

BTW, certain females I know will pay about $1,200 for a leather bag with the letters "LV" on it. I'd consider half cm-thick CNC-machined cast acrylic with an Italian/German designed pump w/titanium screws and impeller shafts a pretty good deal (relatively speaking, of course :) )

banditpowdercoat 01-06-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 374848)
"Noisy" is a relative and subjective term. It is quite noisy compared to a "$1,200 piece of plastic with a pump" but it's not like you can't hear yourself think while one is on. It's best for you to see and listen to one in action to judge for yourself.

BTW, certain females I know will pay about $1,200 for a leather bag with the letters "LV" on it. I'd consider half cm-thick CNC-machined cast acrylic with an Italian/German designed pump w/titanium screws and impeller shafts a pretty good deal (relatively speaking, of course :) )

Now put a LV on the Acrylic and see what they will pay LOL

michika 01-06-2009 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 374850)
Now put a LV on the Acrylic and see what they will pay LOL

Now don't tease! Its cruel! :lol: A skimmer that could match my purse collection.....oh the possibilities!

Hairytank 01-06-2009 03:43 AM

Skimmers
 
My floors and I have personal experience with the Coralife skimmers..they are difficult to get the settings right and they have a habit of overflowing the collection cup. Since you will have a sump you could put one in there thereby preventing any overflow issues, but again you get what you pay for in terms of their ability to skim.

Some poplar ones that can be had between $150-400ish (new and/or used)
Euroreef RS135
ASM (G-1X or G-2)
(There are many forums that discuss the pros and cons of ASM Vs Euroreef skimmers. Just gooogle that, ASM are cheaper and basically the same other than they are a little less sturdy)
Precision Marine RL100 or RL150
Aquamedic Turboflotor 1000- (Good, but very large...)

Canreef usually have a couple of protein skimmers a month come up for sale.

I have used both the Coralife (sitting in my basement where I can curse it every chance I get) and the Aquamedic. I am sure someone will provide info on the other option avaliable.

Spend a little extra the first time or you will wind up paying again and more later when you want get a better one...JMO

RSM 01-06-2009 03:49 AM

I have a coralife skimmer 125 on my 90 gal (33 or 40 gal sump) i just purchased from a friend and its just ok. It is quiet but the one thing i hate is how sensitive it is to water levels. You have to "dial in " almost everyday because of evaporation. This is were auto topoff system would come in handy.

fkshiu 01-06-2009 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 374850)
Now put a LV on the Acrylic and see what they will pay LOL


Apparently US$400 for a paper weight:
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI....3494&indexURL=

;)

Carmen 01-06-2009 03:56 AM

If you are looking for inexpensive but good, my experience with the Aquamedic TurboFloater1000 has been excellent . IT is very big (It's only downside in my opinion) but not at all finicky and pulls great skimmate. Only paid $120 used and am very happy with it. Bit of noise but I can't really compare it to anything else as this is all I've used. I currently have a 72G with 25G sump with a pretty high bioload.

Hairytank 01-06-2009 04:24 AM

Aquamedic
 
X2 Carmen
I really like the Aquamedic, it is cheap and easy to use.

Tom R 01-06-2009 04:51 AM

I use an ASM G5 and it is very efficient. There are some very good deals out there on used ASM's.

Tom R

lorenz0 01-06-2009 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 374848)
BTW, certain females I know will pay about $1,200 for a leather bag with the letters "LV" on it. I'd consider half cm-thick CNC-machined cast acrylic with an Italian/German designed pump w/titanium screws and impeller shafts a pretty good deal (relatively speaking, of course :) )

LOL you just got the qoute for the year. Its going to be hard to match this one.

But yes stay far away from the coralife's. all i have heard is bad news. I was in the same position you were in (cause i am a cheap ass) but in the end dishing out the cash for the best skimmer you can afford is the best thing you could ever do with a reef tank. for sure look into vertex and euroreef skimmers. imo they are the best bang for your buck. AC's aren't bad but i heard they are over rated for what they can handle and they are noisey.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 01-06-2009 06:43 AM

J&L is having Vertex on special for 25% off, similar to their Boxing Day sale pricing.

Best bang for the buck for in-sump skimmers at this price-point IMHO.

Anthony

phillybean 01-06-2009 07:16 AM

I'm using a ASM G3. I like it, but plan to mod it shortly.

I'd go with a MSX skimmer if I could re-do it (and I will when I get my 180 :))

michika 01-06-2009 01:27 PM

I love both Octopus skimmer's I've used; NW-200 and the DDNW-250

Brand new the NW-200 is ~$220. The thing worked like a dream, and I never had any issues with it. I regret selling it. You can view them here.

fencer 01-06-2009 02:00 PM

Guide to skimmers
1. Buy what you can afford
2. Buy at least double the capacity
3. Choose between needle wheel and Beckett style
Becketts are better but are sensitive to water levels
4. Choose accordingly to what you want to put in the tank(SPS water quailty requirements are higher)

reeferious 01-07-2009 04:43 AM

cheapo inadequate coralife skimmer 125
 
call me a cheapo or whatever you want. i've been running the same crappy(to you folks) underperforming coralife 125 in my 90 + 75 gal sump setup the last 5 years, yup same skimmer + pump still going strong. every month and half i have this urge to go to lfs and pick myself up a bubbleking or a royal exclusive skimmer which are not beyond my means, easily done if i resist impulse to grab those eyecandies for a month or two. then i look at my burgeoning algal growth and the health of things in tank and decided i could wait another month and a half b/4 i commit myself.


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