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Aqua-Digital 11-05-2008 06:20 PM

Balling method calculation
 
BALLING METHOD CALCULATION :idea:

http://shop.faunamarin.de/media/cont...ethode_eng.pdf

Here you can determine your systems draw based on averages or starting the balling light method

Fauna Marin 01-13-2009 07:04 PM

HI Michael

You forget one very important thing

With Calciumreactors you can add ( depending of the Material which you use ) a lot of Po4 and H2Co3 in your system.
The Ph Level will going down and this brings Po4 back in solution.
Blling light will work as an PH Puffer and will stabilize the PH against and Calcium reactor
this will bring more stabilitiy in your tank
If you add the Trace Elements which are developed for grow and coloration
you will add the Trace element in the right ammount how the corals grow and not more or to much.
Here you can see some tanks which use the Balling light system several years

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...ulytotal13.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...er/bild5-1.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...ussschnitt.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...amtansicht.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...eder/22000.jpg

Aqua-Digital 01-13-2009 07:22 PM

Yes i forgot about the stability of pH using balling great point. Balling of course keeps pH very stable and of course you are not running the risk of PO4 deposits

Fantastic photos absolutely stunning

Jason McK 01-13-2009 07:30 PM

link does not work for me

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Fauna Marin 01-13-2009 07:42 PM

hi Jason

Yes i see it i need to make the links new cause we made new webpage
greets claude

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-13-2009 10:21 PM

I would like to see that link as well. This is something I am very interested in since I do not want to use a Calcium Reactor. Look forward to the new link!

Aqua-Digital 01-13-2009 10:23 PM

While Claude gets his link sorted

try this one

http://reefdreams.de/rechner/ballingcalculator.html

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-13-2009 10:36 PM

Thanks.

Im sure I could get this info from reading a bit more but I will ask anyways....

Do I need to use the ProfiLux conroller to use the GHL 3 pump stand alone dosing station?

The reason I ask, is because I do not want to have to change my controller right now. Although if I could go back I would have bought a Profilux instead of Neptune ;) The ones I have seen people using are awesome!

I am still just trying to get my head around the Balling method but I really like the concept.

EDIT: Ok, read some more :D Certainly something I want to do and it looks like the dosing pump has a built in controller?

I LOVE how easy this makes things...I can see why this method is so popular in Europe. I was about to buy a Ca reactor and I am now very glad I did not.

fkshiu 01-13-2009 10:44 PM

What is the difference between Balling and Randy Holmes-Farley's two-part (or more accurately, three-part with Mg) dosing scheme?

Aqua-Digital 01-13-2009 11:13 PM

Hi

No you do not need a profiLux aquatic computer to run the dosing pumps, the stand alone doser has a built in controller that runs the show for you.

In regards to two part etc, this is a question we get a lot and very complex :(

Two part is just that it does not have all the elements that make up the balling system, the main one Claude informs me is stability and avoiding ionic imbalances.

Using the Fauna salts you are guarranteed the exact trace elements to avoid all negative situations, most of these come from people using low grade salts trying to save a few bucks, there are plenty of what we call DIY salts on the market that have chemicals such as Bromide in them, ice melting salts come to mind :(

When two part first came out there was a great deal of difference in balling and two part but if you now look at the recipes you will see they have evolved into what the balling system generally offers, many now also employing the magnesium elements. So depending on where you read, NO you may not see much difference. What is different however is in the quality of salt supplied by Fauna Marin and the extra trace elements embedded in the fauna Salts and the guarrantee of purity everytime.

So to recap, two part used to be different but now looking at the evolution of their system it is remarkably similar ;).

don.ald 01-20-2009 09:32 PM

link does not work?
 
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Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 357391)
BALLING METHOD CALCULATION :idea:

http://www.faunamarin.de/eng/manual_balling-methode.php

Here you can determine your systems draw based on averages or starting the balling light method

well picked up my doser and balling package today from progressive. the link here does not work for me
but i found what i was looking for in another thread

Aqua-Digital 02-07-2009 01:12 PM

Here is a reminder to the dosing of salts using the balling method as so many are now changing from calcium reactors to balling method after seeing the dramatic results balling can give.

Balling Instructions:

You need three solutions in three separate cans:

Container 1 = 2 kilogram Calcium Chloride-Dihydrate in 5 liter reverse-osmosis water

Container 2 = 2 kilogram Magnesium Chloride-Hexahydrate in 5 liter reverse-osmosis water and 250 gram Magnesium Sulfate-Heptahydrate

Container 3 = 500 gram sodium hydrogen carbonate in 5 litre reverse-osmosis water

**** IMPORTANT - If you wish to use smaller quantities then dived the amount of salts accordingly, for example in 2.5L of water halve all the above weights.****

Now, all three containers are connected to a GHL SA 3 doser. Each solution has to be dosed according to the size of the tank. At the beginning, CA, MG and alkalinity have to be checked daily. and the dosing quantity has to be adjusted at the controller. The GHL SA dosing controller is very suitable for that, as each channel can be adjusted individually and the solutions can be dosed twice a day at 5 minutes intervals.

After around two weeks, the tanks personal consumption will be known and adjusted. The quantities in each container can now be calculated and varied by you. Through Balling-light a small quantity of sodium chloride will arise in your tank. To avoid accumulation it should be compensated by periodical water change (10% each week). Also, always check the salinity of your water and adjust it if necessary.

Essential trace elements needed for the growth of corals can be dosed
automatically.

Ultra Trace B solutions.

Add to container 1 (to the Calcium Chloride-Dihydrate) 25ml of the Ultra trace B strontium complex
and 25ml of the Ultra trace B heavy-metal-complex.

To container 2 (to the magnesium) you add 25ml of the Ultra trace B Iodine-Fluorine Complex.

And that is it.


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