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kari 04-09-2008 12:11 AM

Zeovit reactors - *testing done*
 
While having a bit of extra time on my hands I was planning on building some zeovit reactors. If there is interest for more then 3 I will get on it.

Pricing will depend on current acrylic cost and the number of units being built but it will definately be less then retail.

Design will be similiar to what you see in the stores (round design.) Construction will be all cast with quality fittings.

If there is enough interest I will draw up the plans to fit everyones setups and work out the final price tag.

Der_Iron_Chef 04-09-2008 12:13 AM

I'd have to say....my personal interest is contingent on price. Sorry, not very helpful, I know!

dsaundry 04-09-2008 12:45 AM

Gotta agree with "The Chef"..Depends on price..even a ball park figure.. between $____+$_____. :biggrin:

Nate 04-09-2008 01:04 AM

I think...
 
I think my order has already been placed...correct me if I am wrong Kari....

Myka 04-09-2008 01:18 AM

I would be interested as well based on price. The Zeovit Reactors seem to run about $230 including a pump for the 1.5L version. How much better do you think you can do on price?

Would it be clear acrylic or white or other? A ball park figure would be good...and you're just talking the reactor, no pump or anything right? Are you including the plunger thing in your design to clean the Zeovit media?

JOEL 04-09-2008 02:09 AM

I may be interested as well based on price.

whiteice669 04-09-2008 02:14 AM

ditto with all above, keep me posted

Tom R 04-09-2008 02:53 AM

Keep in mind that a 1.5 liter reactor will only do a small system. I have the 3 liter reactor and use about 2.5 liters for my 425G system.

Tom R

Myka 04-09-2008 03:00 AM

1 litre per 100 gallons according to the Zeovit guys. Have you tried running more media Tom?

1.5 litre works for me. :)

Der_Iron_Chef 04-09-2008 03:01 AM

Big enough for me :)

aussiefishy 04-09-2008 03:49 AM

you have PM

steve fedyk 04-09-2008 04:02 AM

Can they be bigger like 5L. I would be intrested I one :mrgreen:

fencer 04-09-2008 04:18 AM

I have seen Kari's work on his skimmer. If he is making it it will be a good job

kari 04-09-2008 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate (Post 316733)
I think my order has already been placed...correct me if I am wrong Kari....

Your on the list Nate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 316738)
I would be interested as well based on price. The Zeovit Reactors seem to run about $230 including a pump for the 1.5L version. How much better do you think you can do on price?

Would it be clear acrylic or white or other? A ball park figure would be good...and you're just talking the reactor, no pump or anything right? Are you including the plunger thing in your design to clean the Zeovit media?

1.5 litre sounds pretty small, but no problem, can make a few smaller ones aswell.

The main tube will be clear cast acrylic. Other colored parts can be used but keep in mind colored acrylic is near double the cost.

Yes to the plunger thing with a little extra.

I'll get the cadd drawing finished this weekend plus the price tag.

Thanks

wayner 04-09-2008 04:54 AM

Here's a new design - fyi

http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12440

michika 04-09-2008 04:58 AM

Kari,

Can you make other things with your skills beyond zeovit reactors?

Myka 04-09-2008 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kari (Post 316809)
1.5 litre sounds pretty small, but no problem, can make a few smaller ones aswell.

The main tube will be clear cast acrylic. Other colored parts can be used but keep in mind colored acrylic is near double the cost.

Yes to the plunger thing with a little extra.

I'll get the cadd drawing finished this weekend plus the price tag.

Thanks

I'm game with the clear acrylic. I look forward to the CAD and the price tag! :)

Delphinus 04-09-2008 06:35 AM

I'd be interested in what the price would work out to on a 5l reactor. As you know I was about to make one anyhow but would happily defer to letting you make one instead. :)

To all - Kari does exceptional acrylic work BTW. :)

Railskinner 04-09-2008 10:02 AM

Reactor
 
so what is the purpose of this reactor,functions. 1st ive heard of this unit.

wayner 04-09-2008 01:48 PM

1 lit here also.

digital-audiophile 04-09-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railskinner (Post 316854)
so what is the purpose of this reactor,functions. 1st ive heard of this unit.

http://zeovit.com/ For all your zeo questions.

Zeo is your God! :)

Nate 04-09-2008 03:14 PM

for those of you...
 
for those of you questioning as to karis acrylic abilities...he is the sh!t. Builds some great stuff

Phanman 04-09-2008 04:12 PM

id be down for a 1.5-2 L pending price of course

Delphinus 04-09-2008 04:23 PM

I guess I should have asked if you're OK with building multiple sizes in this "production run". If not, no worries, let me know. I can't imagine too many people want 5l or 7l reactor. :)

christyf5 04-09-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate (Post 316886)
for those of you questioning as to karis acrylic abilities...he is the sh!t. Builds some great stuff

ditto on that! :mrgreen:

Jaws 04-09-2008 11:50 PM

I'm in for one if the price is right too. I look forward to hearing more.

kari 04-10-2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 316814)

I want a cnc router so bad :lol: , maybe I should try saving money for a change. I like the design though.



Priced the materials today but I need to get the drawing done to define the price. Anyone see any of the Sedra pumps around.


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kari 04-12-2008 05:46 PM

Drawings are done but are in PDF format. I need to find some web space to link them.

andresont 04-12-2008 05:59 PM

I am interested also , but in the small unit 1L or less.
My tank is only 66 Gal minus live rock , i only need about 1/3 of a bag or so.

tagging along for the price and shipping cost.

How about just running it with a power head? do we really need a sedra pump ? This will bring the cost down and shipping waght as well. JMO

kari 04-12-2008 06:47 PM

Here's the drawings. Sorry but apparently I can only plot drawings in autocad sideways:lol:.

4.9litre Joe tradition style- http://www3.telus.net/salomaa/ks/zeo...odel%20(1).pdf

Can't get the price down to make it attractive mainly due to the cost of the 3ft of acrylic tube. 6" 1/8"wall cast pipe is not available at this time:rolleyes: and would need to be manufactured with an added cost so I went with 1/4"wall tube. The 2 tubes alone cost $125 making the total material cost $178. Probably not worth making and better off to hit the store for one.

Alternative Horizontal Design- http://www3.telus.net/salomaa/ks/zeo...HORIZONTAL.pdf

Maybe get in much less trouble by not doing knockoffs I came up with different design that would be much more cost effective. This sealed cylinder would take up much less space and could be wall mounted in a cabinet or fish room wall. Flow control would be with a speed fit valve. The pump would be placed in the sump with 1/2" connection.

Any thoughts on this:question:

Myka 04-12-2008 06:57 PM

Where are you finding the acrylic? Are you getting a discount or paying full retail? I wonder if I could help find some cheaper...

Would a 1.5-2.5 L media capacity reactor be $178 as well, or would it be a bit cheaper? What were you thinking of adding on top for your time?

andresont 04-12-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kari (Post 317714)
Here's the drawings. Sorry but apparently I can only plot drawings in autocad sideways:lol:.

4.9litre Joe tradition style- http://www3.telus.net/salomaa/ks/zeo...odel%20(1).pdf

Can't get the price down to make it attractive mainly due to the cost of the 3ft of acrylic tube. 6" 1/8"wall cast pipe is not available at this time:rolleyes: and would need to be manufactured with an added cost so I went with 1/4"wall tube. The 2 tubes alone cost $125 making the total material cost $178. Probably not worth making and better off to hit the store for one.

Alternative Horizontal Design- http://www3.telus.net/salomaa/ks/zeo...HORIZONTAL.pdf

Maybe get in much less trouble by not doing knockoffs I came up with different design that would be much more cost effective. This sealed cylinder would take up much less space and could be wall mounted in a cabinet or fish room wall. Flow control would be with a speed fit valve. The pump would be placed in the sump with 1/2" connection.

Any thoughts on this:question:

i like a horizontal unit a lot !
This would make shaking/ moving media so easy. And will save the space too.
I dont care how thick the walls are as long as it will hold the water. The only thing is that it will become non transparent very(?) quickly due to scratches.
Other then that its very good. And I would actually prefer horizontal unit myself.
Good work !

kari 04-12-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 317716)
Where are you finding the acrylic? Are you getting a discount or paying full retail? I wonder if I could help find some cheaper...

Would a 1.5-2.5 L media capacity reactor be $178 as well, or would it be a bit cheaper? What were you thinking of adding on top for your time?

I am purchasing it at $44.37/ft ( 6"OD 1/4"wall cast ), $30.58/ft (6"OD 1/8"wall cast - none available), $29.22/ft (5-1/4"OD 1/8"wall cast.) The prices will very by the week.

For a smaller reactor I would just shorten the tubes and price would change equal to cost of the tube. Labour time would not change and could do it for $80.

The horizontal design is much less in materials since it is much shorter and no inner tube while acheiving the same volume. Should make one and find a guinea pig.

andresont 04-12-2008 10:09 PM

can you please elaborate on how small horizontal unit will shake the media with 25 degree rod rotation?
How will this be done?
thx

kari 04-12-2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andresont (Post 317748)
can you please elaborate on how small horizontal unit will shake the media with 25 degree rod rotation?
How will this be done?
thx

The 25deg number was something I quickly winged but will probably be a larger angle. Using the 6" pipe I figure the media section length will be 13" long for 5 liter, 11" for 4 liter, 8" for 3 liter, 5.5" for 2 liter.

The head scratching part that remains is the water in and out connection. John guest type fittings may not work and I will have to find something else that can be just as easily disconnected.

I'll put one together right away and see how it works.

steve fedyk 04-13-2008 01:09 AM

If the price is right I'll take a 2.5L reactor.:mrgreen:

Der_Iron_Chef 04-13-2008 02:01 AM

It sounds really interesting. I'm intrigued!

Richard_Dicosimo 04-13-2008 02:40 AM

i have been looking into building a skimmer lately and have priced out some 6" acrylic tubing all 1/8" and if you buy a 6' length from industrial paints and plasitcs in Calgary they will sell it to you for 105$ nearly halfs your main chamber costs.
they are located in the industrial park in the s.e. near chinook center, they also had the 6" in stock when i was there last wednesday. also i found a site on the internet www.k-mac-plastics.com they aslo sell the acrylic tube for less then you say you can get it IF you buy in a 6' lengths. hope this helps you some.

Richard

EmilyB 04-13-2008 05:08 AM

Kari, you can guinea pig us any time. We will pay for anything that makes life/tanks better...:lol: Plus Carson likes you. :mrgreen:

Psyire 04-13-2008 05:18 AM

That horizontal design is very interesting, I say definately build a test unit. It just might be the ticket.


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