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Seriak 03-15-2008 04:07 AM

Censorship
 
Can posts and/or replies get deleted by moderators with no explanation as to why? Just curious.

Pan 03-15-2008 05:01 AM

Yes

hillbillyreefer 03-15-2008 05:07 AM

Yup. Has happened before and I'm sure it'll happen again. Maybe even tonight, lol. I like to stir the pot on occasion. The only post I've had binned was not well thought out. It was derogatory to a celebrity and in no way would I consider it censorship. I posted it late one night and got up in the morning to change it and it was gone. I talked to the mods and actually apologized for it, way out of character for me.

vazgor 03-15-2008 05:21 AM

cencorship
 
yes i have had mine censored too but i have to say mine wasnt outa line with my beliefs but they are just too rednecked for this sight and i guess thats the the way they want to play it well thats up to them its all part of being a free socity i guess as long as they dont ban me for my point of view i guess i just have to play by there rules :)

Aquattro 03-15-2008 05:51 AM

Official answer is yes, if we feel a post has no place on the board/thread, violates board rules or otherwise is meant to distract from the enjoyment of the board. An example is today I removed some smart *** posts in someone's for sale ad. They weren't buying or asking any pertinent info, and were therefore removed.

Seriak 03-15-2008 06:31 AM

Interesting. This board has changed in the year I was gone.

hillbillyreefer 03-15-2008 06:47 AM

I've only been here for about 6 months. What's changed? I find it a friendly, respectful community. Some sites aren't that friendly, and don't allow for exchanges contrary to their mods, this one does. Please explain your last comment.

Brad

Pan 03-15-2008 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seriak (Post 310004)
Interesting. This board has changed in the year I was gone.

No the user base has :)

Samw 03-15-2008 08:50 AM

Seems like its gotten better. Getting rid of noise is good.

Aquattro 03-15-2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seriak (Post 310004)
Interesting. This board has changed in the year I was gone.

Actually, that has been our policy for many years now.

michika 03-15-2008 04:50 PM

Aquattro? Get bored and felt the need for a Friday night make-over?

SeaHorse_Fanatic 03-15-2008 05:20 PM

Yes, I find that the board has been well moderated for years, with bans and deleted posts only when absolutely necessary. Its great when board members on a site can have healthy discussion without getting into all sorts of unnecessary drama.

Anthony

Der_Iron_Chef 03-15-2008 07:04 PM

It's a free society, yes. If people want to be petty and rude, they are free to go elsewhere! They are also free to not agree with the rules and policies before joining. :)

mark 03-15-2008 07:13 PM

Censorship is a really strong term (or action) and getting your posts edited on a private board doesn't even come close.

Seriak 03-16-2008 01:30 AM

As defined

Censorship : deleting parts of publications or correspondence

It definitly is censorship, but definition aside I would just like to say I disagree with the practice of deleting posts without a explanation being given. Everyone gets off topic etc on occasion and my slightly sarcastic remark about a person's inclusion of tax into the savings one could make on their sale was far from worthy of deletion. When moderators do not require the extra step of an explanation, I believe they no longer think things through as they can just click "delete".

As for this board changing, I guess I chose my words wrong. The board is great, the members are great, I just find the rules a little too strict now. (Maybe the rules has always been in place, but until now I had never seen it used and I have seen quite a few posts worthy of deletion in years past far outweighing my little comment) I miss Bob's gruff attitude and grammar checks.

But like you say. Their forum, their rules! Live with it or go somewhere else.

I have said my peace.

Love you all!

:)

marie 03-16-2008 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seriak (Post 310144)
As defined

Censorship : deleting parts of publications or correspondence

It definitly is censorship, but definition aside I would just like to say I disagree with the practice of deleting posts without a explanation being given. Everyone gets off topic etc on occasion and my slightly sarcastic remark about a person's inclusion of tax into the savings one could make on their sale was far from worthy of deletion. When moderators do not require the extra step of an explanation, I believe they no longer think things through as they can just click "delete".

As for this board changing, I guess I chose my words wrong. The board is great, the members are great, I just find the rules a little too strict now. (Maybe the rules has always been in place, but until now I had never seen it used and I have seen quite a few posts worthy of deletion in years past far outweighing my little comment) I miss Bob's gruff attitude and grammar checks.

But like you say. Their forum, their rules! Live with it or go somewhere else.

I have said my peace.

Love you all!

:)

You are a victim of history. Too many times, threads in the buy and sell went down in flames because some people strongly disagreed with the asking price...even though they never had any intention of buying :rolleyes:

Now it's just easier to do away with all superfluous posts

mildcustom2 03-16-2008 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der_Iron_Chef (Post 310090)
It's a free society, yes. If people want to be petty and rude, they are free to go elsewhere! They are also free to not agree with the rules and policies before joining. :)


I agree that derogatory comments have no place in this society and everyone should conduct themselves with the utmost respect and honour, however at what point do these rules and policies become an infringement on the basic civil rights ( the law in this country ) that our society as a whole was created on (speaking in general terms here).

I preffer to listen to everyones opinion on discussions and form a conclusion based on my own thoughts. Sometimes there is no harm in listening to someones rants and raves as they may have a valid point as long as it is respectfull ( it is only slander if its not true ). The best part of our society is that we have the right to agree or disagree and this is what make a discussion interesting.

I do agree that the staff at canreef have a responsability to be held accountable for there actions to a certain point when it comes to deleting a post. However in my opinion some people should cut them a little slack, they do one heck of a job in maintaining a decent, respectable forum. I can only imagine how much work is involved in keeping this forum running.

My hats off to the staff at Canreef.

Thank you for all your hard work.

P.S. Thank to all who listened to my rant and rave.:lol:

Regards
Sean

titus 03-16-2008 08:23 AM

Hello,

Quote:

It definitly is censorship, but definition aside I would just like to say I disagree with the practice of deleting posts without a explanation being given. Everyone gets off topic etc on occasion and my slightly sarcastic remark about a person's inclusion of tax into the savings one could make on their sale was far from worthy of deletion. When moderators do not require the extra step of an explanation, I believe they no longer think things through as they can just click "delete".

As for this board changing, I guess I chose my words wrong. The board is great, the members are great, I just find the rules a little too strict now. (Maybe the rules has always been in place, but until now I had never seen it used and I have seen quite a few posts worthy of deletion in years past far outweighing my little comment) I miss Bob's gruff attitude and grammar checks.
Generally speaking, it'd be nice to have a full explanation for each action we do. 90+% of the time when one of the Staff members sight a potential problem, we'd put it on our watch list and discuss amongst ourselves whether we do the actual explanation part.

However, also speaking on general terms here, it is impossible to do this for every single thread. It is simply non-practical. So sometimes when there are threads that we know is of a similar nature to a previous case, we just go ahead to delete it. Actually we move it to a private area.

If you see a thread/post gone and you do definitely feel that it doesn't violate any rules or even touch the grey area realm, then please PM us and we'll revisit the case.

Titus

Doug 03-16-2008 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seriak (Post 310144)
As defined

Censorship : deleting parts of publications or correspondence

It definitly is censorship, but definition aside I would just like to say I disagree with the practice of deleting posts without a explanation being given. Everyone gets off topic etc on occasion and my slightly sarcastic remark about a person's inclusion of tax into the savings one could make on their sale was far from worthy of deletion. When moderators do not require the extra step of an explanation, I believe they no longer think things through as they can just click "delete".

As for this board changing, I guess I chose my words wrong. The board is great, the members are great, I just find the rules a little too strict now. (Maybe the rules has always been in place, but until now I had never seen it used and I have seen quite a few posts worthy of deletion in years past far outweighing my little comment) I miss Bob's gruff attitude and grammar checks.

But like you say. Their forum, their rules! Live with it or go somewhere else.

I have said my peace.

Love you all!

:)

http://216.187.96.54/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=24704

This is likely why the post was deleted. If its the post I,m thinking of. Please correct me if wrong. As already mentioned, there was to many problems with the buy/sell and postings. We were asked to correct this by members and came up with the policy that appears in the sticky at the top of the forums.

Those are just deleted, as they have no place in someone,s ads, as posted. Most other times, when posts are deleted, {they are usually moved first for discussion & not deleted}, the poster is notified why, either in the thread, {eg. post edited because of such & such} or by pm.

Hope that helps explain some of the policy and as the boss said, we dont get them all right and some are replaced. We just try follow the rules set down for posting by the board and many calls are straight foward but many are also tougher to call.

Thanks


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