If i were to start a 60g reef what would i need?
 

Okay i found a guy thats selling a 60g tank and a 60g sump and maybe a pump what else would i need?

Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alright I'll start the list.

Stand
Plumbing
RO/DI water
Lights
Salt
Heater
Probably more flow
Test Kits
Refractometer,hydrometer
LR
Sand (maybe)

Way more stuff just starting the list.

add to that list...

a good protein skimmer

...and an understanding spouse!

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More Stuff
 

THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PUT IN TANK.. THATS THE FUN PART..EXPENSIVE TOO..:biggrin:

Lol i'm 13 maybe understanding parents
can you list the best brand and that kind of stuff

Brands
 

As for brands, if you are trying to keep costs down, try using this forum for good used equipment. There might be several opinions on different types of equipment so do your homework and read, read , read. Some people swear by German aquarium products, but there are lots of good products out there. Check Craigslist too. Being in Edmonton I encourage fellow reefers to suggest a good aquarium/pet store in your area. Maybe even some local breeders and suppliers. Remember the first No/No in a marine tank is to rush it and not do your research. I am always learning new things from this and other reef forums ...aint the internet great!!:biggrin:

oh i've been researching for like 3 months so i'm quite educated

equip
 

I second the skimmer.Better to get something rated for more tank than you have.Euroreef makes good skimmers and theres others I just dont own them and don't know.I have a euroreef rs100 on my 20g and love it.Make sure you take your time to no sense in rushing in and losing livestock.Clint

I'm just thinking about livestock as one piece of the puzzle i won't put the peices together until i get all of them.

I like Deltec skimmers.

I've used MCE600 & AP600 before.

Both performed really well (I've currently got a MCE600)

Deltec Skimmers

But I'm planning a 120-150g tank and everyone I speak to around here seems to be recommending Bubble Kings (if you have the $$$ that is!)

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If i buy a skimmer it will be for a 70g not a sixty so i get better results.
I'll buy everything a size 2 big

I'd recommend going even further than a 70g rated skimmer for a 60g tank.

The Deltec MCE600 Skimmer I was running in my 60g was rated for 120g for a heavily stocked tank or 200g for a lightly stocked tank.

Realistically it's probably only good for normally stocked reef tanks up to 90g or so.

Maybe the RS100 or RS135 Euro Reef skimmer or something similar, might suit your needs.

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Can somebody run me through the parts of a sump and show me a diagram. Also can you tell me what a skimmer does. As in what it takes up?
Okay heres the list of things that i think i'll need.
Light
Flow
Skimmer
Sump
Pump
LR
LS
DS
Overflow
Heater
Can you list the things i missed and the best brand for a 70g. H*** with the cost right now.

Just to help others help you better, what are you planning on keeping in your reef?

Hard corals? SPS? LPS? Soft corals? Clams? Zoo's? What kind of fishes? etc.

These might determine what lighting you'll need & if you need things like calcium reactors.

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If you can wait a week or so i'll be going to my local fish store and i'll look at what the have. this is my list so far

Fish

2 clowns
RedFire Fish
Longnosed Hawkfish
Magenta Dottyback
Lawnmower Blenny
CUC

Coral

Zoas
Dusters

Is there any other fish and coral that would go good?

Redfire Fish?
 

A Volitans Lionfish?

I'd be wary of keeping one of these in a reef.

I've heard of people who've successfully done it but personally I wouldn't.

They may chew up your CUC & be agressive towards your other fish.

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The Volitan Lionfish is nothing like the redfire fish. What are you trying to get at?

New list

Fish

McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Longnosed Hawkfish
Mandarin Goby
Clownfish
Magenta Dottyback
Lawnmower Blenny
Starfish

CUC?

Coral

Clam
Zoanthids
Coco Worm
Tube Worms

I wouldn't put a cuc in there, but then I have had a few bad experiences with them. But I know just as many who have had good ones. I would say if it catches your eye and you weigh any risks accordingly, then go for it. After all it's your tank :)

What is cuc in your eyes to me it is Clean Up Crew?

oops, not thinking sorry. Was thinkin CUCumber :)

That isn't what i had in mind but on the otherhand i've never seen one.

Sorry, by Red Fire Fish, I thought you meant one of these...

Or this

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LoL:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

What oxygenates the water in a saltwater aquarium?

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Your protein skinmmer does a good job of oxygenating.

Flow to and from a sump does as well
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Again...
New List

Fish/invertebrates

McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Longnosed Hawkfish
Mandarin Goby
Clownfish
Magenta Dottyback
Lawnmower Blenny
Harlequin Starfish

CUC (what kind should i get that will do all the jobs)

Corals

Clam
Zoanthids
Coco Worm
Tube Worms
Orange Cup Coral
Branching Hammer
Frogspawn
Pulsing Xenia
Orange Ricordea Mushroom
Orange Ball Anemone

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Read up on some of those fish. You have one that would likely starve in a 70 gal tank.

You also would need some expensive lighting if you want to keep clams.
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Brent is 100% correct about the starving fish!

I tried & failed to keep a Mandarin healthy in my 2 yr old 60g tank.

This was despite the fact that I built a 'pod safety zone' pile using LR rubble, had a large population on pods as a result & even had my Mandarin feed occasionally on fish roe & frozen food.

My Mandarin was not amazingly fat when I got him & he did fatten up a little bit, but eventually, despite my pod population being almost at infestation levels & my Madarin seemingly eating well, he got skinny looking & ended up in pretty bad shape.

I had him 4 months & he went from slightly skinny to really emaciated & I felt really sh***y about it :sad:

A harsh lesson learned despite the fact that I read up everything I could find & asked for lots of advice on forums.

I had to give him away to a friend with a 4 yr old 200g reef.

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I haven't looked up the fish but i have looked up the coral. Why would they starve? I found out the dimensions of the tank. It is 48x20x15 thanks.

Okay what would be the average Length and width of a overflow for a 60g tank?

Madarins starve in aquariums because they're extremely picky about what they eat.

They usually feed off copepods & amphipods in the wild, but despite making sure there was a more than adequate supply in my mature tank, it still starved.

With those dimensions, your tank would be around 62g.

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awesome. Thanks so any more things to add to my list. or anything wrong with it. (new one on pg 3) I am also getting a sump with it. The sump has the same dimensions. so my whole tank will be 122g :)

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How are you going to suport a tank with the sump being the same size?
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I don't know

How was it set up before?

Is the tank drilled?

How many baffles are there in the sump?

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I'll ask. I have my stand being built by me on google sketchup. if you have it i'll post it on the warehouse place. In a bit though.

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Typically a sump as smaller length and width than the main tank so that there is room for support under the main tank.

You need to know the interior dimensions of your stand before buying a sump
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