An Inconvinient Truth
 

Who has seen it? You owe it to yourself to see this movie. I'm in shock, I never knew the facts until now. It's insane!!

I want to see it, I'm guessing from your post that I should.

It really is a great film. I am guilty of having no interest in making a point to see it. It came on TV and I watched it, and I am glad I did. Sends a hard serious message that needs to be heard, and one that is often ignored. Just see this movie, you'll be glad you did.

Hey Scott, there's another thread in the Lounge about Global Warming as well. It was started by trimpellepimp (lol) or something and another member, Pinhead, makes some interesting points about climatologists and facts regarding global warming.

I think it will give you several hours of fun reading through it.

Probably would have found that thread in my original search if I spelt Inconvenient correctly!

Thanks.

Please note below is my own opinion only and I apologize if it seams strongly worded.

The author of this film is Not an honest man.
He fired his chief scientist for being in disagreement with his theory.

Every major point in this film is flawed that is why Al Gore would Not debate with any scientist on this topic, he was invited many times and refused.
I have a radio interview with climatologist with really good points (crashing all Gore's points) just about that issue and I can send it to anybody in MP3 format on CD for free (shipping included) if interested.
What good about this film, is that it’s a very nice PowerPoint Presentation and very expansive one indeed.

I agree that there is a global worming, that we need alternative energy and efficient cars etc. or burning of fossil fuels is ancient technology, I agree with all that; what I am trying to say is that ALL planets in our solar system are worming up including Pluto (!). There is no SUV’s on Pluto and Mars is there? LOL so why are the polar caps melting on Mars and Pluto?

Global worming IMOHO is Not human caused even though I agree that we do contribute to that.

Thank you for bringing that up.

There is another interesting thread on this topic from a month or so ago.

In that thread I made the point that politics was taking precedence over science, and instead of open discussion and scientific debate, anyone who disagreed with the global warming dogma was personally attacked, vilified, and bullied into acquiescence.

An interesting article I read the other day said that all the efforts towards improving energy efficiency and fuel economy in vehicles have been futile. Although average gas mileage has improved drastically since the 1970's, people are driving more kilometres and there are more vehicles on the road, with the net effect being an increase in gasoline consumption.

And they gave him a Nobel Peace Prize. :eek: I find it hard to listen a politician tell me anything. It seems like its always about money with those SOB's. I heard that Gore charges 100 grand for a speech on climate change. :turn-l:

Exactly !
Good point.
It is so hard to believe in what major media and politicians are saying because it is all controlled and biased. Just depends on who is paying.
Today is much easier to believe self funding researchers and entrepreneurs (like, Bigelow for example) at least they say what they believe and no one is controlling that.

Main stream media should be asking many important straight forward questions but DO THEY ?
All we get in the news is Paris Hilton and Trump LOL.

Its on par with micheal moore movies for fact.






PS.... I hate al gore.... and david suzuki

Snowing on Vancouver Island?.....that sure sounds like global warming to me.:razz:

you got that right. It's so freakin' globally warm here right now, I'm looking at real estate in Costa Rica!!

i think its a good movie to try and get some people moving, but its pathetically inaccurate, and when something is that outside of reality, who wants to give it any credit? Lol how'd he manage to get a nobel peace prize? *they must have ordered too many trophies*

Have you guys herd about earth’s north pole wobbling “theory”?
I mean we all know it does it, but the thing is that there is an opinion that it wobbles a lot more now that is why we have more unstable weather swings

that is true, that darn north pole keeps moving all over the place, its no longer 'on ice'
although what/how does that carry over to weather patterns around the globe?

My 0.02$
there is little chance that we will stop global warming before either
A) we run dry of oil and gas
b) the world 'sinks' underwater due to melting of the ice caps
c) something happens as a direct result of our stupidity that wipes out a good minimum of 20% of the world

Yay money and politics
(no offense intended)

I can quote someone who is trying to explaining just that, but that would bring me way too deep in the conspiracy theory section LOL

lol

Global warming!! only mean one thing to me. More money out of my pocket for this hobby!! A larger Chiller!!! Damn, and I thought my big purchases were finished/.....

Interesting topic, with good friendly discussion. We all share our own different beliefs on the subject it seems. But, we can all seem to agree on one thing, and that is, that Global Warming is real, and is happening. To what extent and the results of it seems to be the area which no body can predict.

The movie sends at the very least, one simple message. Do your own part whenever you can. Simple enough, and surely it can't hurt to start making small changes to your daily routine. I already have, and to what extent it will "help" or make a difference I don't know, but at the end of the day, you still feel good about doing something positive for the environment.

I have to say I have learned a lot more about Global Warming since yesterday's viewing of the movie. It has opened my mind, not just the movie, the discussions and my readings. I'm glad I learned more about this than simply from viewing that movie, because at the end of that show your basically sitting saying to yourself "we're doomed" "we're goners" , or if not us, our future generations. It's like saying bye-bye to the earth (which could be possible?). That's my interpretation... but it is also said, we're the problem, and also the solution. Who knows what will happen. Pray for the best and do your part when you can, but I think aside from all that, and doing your own part, we're just going to be along for the ride. Maybe none of what is said to happen will happen, some people believe this is just a blip. That's a nice thought, but it can't hurt to prepare for what's possibly ahead?

Just note, this is not the stir the pot, I am sharing my young minded, non-scientific point of view, that's it, that's all!

I see my rant on this subject from last night has disappeared.

Sorry Mods and anyone else I may have offended. Sometimes I just get a little grumpy.

As OCDP said above:
"The movie sends at the very least, one simple message. Do your own part whenever you can. Simple enough, and surely it can't hurt to start making small changes to your daily routine. I already have, and to what extent it will "help" or make a difference I don't know, but at the end of the day, you still feel good about doing something positive for the environment."

I agree whole heartedly. It just makes me mad that a hypocrite like Gore makes millions off of creating hysteria, and people lap it up. I have no problem with people making lots of money, but doing it by creating hysteria and panic is not called for.

I was going to say pretty much the same thing actually , just forgot how to spell "hypocrite" …LOL

lol, i wonder how much fuel he used filming the movie

one quick q for all u people out there
Bio-fuels, way of the future, or just plain moronic?

(i think moronic personally, cuz its gonna take more energy to grow those fields of corn then you get out of it, etc)

It will also take up all the avaliable land to grow the bio fuel. So where will the food crops grow?
Honda just released a hydrogen vehicle with zero emissions , however natural gas is still used to produce hydrogen,So the emissions are still about a half of what regular gasoline engine would have. but things can change in the future

Honda Clarity

I'm a farmer, burn biofuels I say LOL. It's been good for the grain side of my business, pretty bad for the livestock side though.

In all seriousness, I think it's pretty foolish burning food in our vehicles, but most North Americans would rather drive than eat cheap food. So it is the consumers choice where to utilize that product. I guess I should be thanking the enviromentalists for driving up the price of grain. It is absurd to use a necessary food to power things we don't need, but hey what do I know.

Aside from feeling like we shouldn't be using food as fuel, for the obvious reason that grain feeds people, is the fact that we have water quantity issues now too. There isn't enough water anymore to supply irrigation for those grain fields in many parts of the Country. You can't grow grain without water. So, we will have the ever increasing problem of being able to grow enough grain to both fuel our vehicles AND feed and water the people AND feed and water our livestock.

In my opinion, the solution is fossil fuel conservation and encouraging the production of both low fuel consumptive vehicles and hydrogen fuel technologies coupled with affordable solar and wind solutions to heat and light our homes (and tanks).

The trick here is to provide AFFORDABLE solutions and offer government grants to encourage people to make the switch.

The most difficult part of the whole thing is finding ways to make people see how we have to start doing something.... anything, no matter how small it may seem. And I don't care if you call it global warming, or whether it's a man made problem or natures cycle, and I'm not a Gore supporter. But it's obvious to me that we have to change our way of life so there will be a future for the next generations.

This trend of bigger homes and bigger cars and bigger everything really needs to change. We live in a land of plenty, but will our children?

To bad hydrogens main emmision is water vapour which is the number one component of green house gases.

Back to the subject of weather
 

http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...020_323701.htm

Magnitude-7.4 earthquake rocks Caribbean
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...Earthquake.php
Global warming
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.aler...to.of.day.html

How Do You Live Without Electricity

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.aler...ectricity.html

You have to remember what audiance the movie was made for. The average educated proactive person on this board knew about global warming long before the movie came out.

Unfortunatly there is a large percent of our worlds population (america) that did not. I think its about time we had some Green Propoganda. The petrolium industry have been using it years. Al Gore is just fighting back with the same weapons.

As what HillBilly said, the overall outcome of the movie is to realize that we have a significant impact on the earth and we should do our part to help out.

If you want to be mad at Al Gore for making money why not be mad at the CEOs of every international corporation that do absolutly nothing for the common man but rape the earth.

Individuals like Al Gore and David Sazuki are not perfect and we dont have to agree with all there opinions but they have done more good for the common man and the planet then anyone on this board ever has or will.

Its easy to judge someone from a computer.

This is just my opinion and I could be wrong.

Jon