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Quinn 01-08-2003 04:20 AM

local hydroponics shops
 
i'm thinking of buying MH ballasts and reflectors from a weed shop, any places in calgary you people would suggest?

EmilyB 01-08-2003 04:24 AM

Yes, there is one that has nasty ignorant employees - it's by the meat deli...

There is a good one with professionals...hmmm...let me check...

Bumper Crop and Quick Grow are the two I've been to. Check them both out.

Canadian Man 01-08-2003 06:38 AM

I have never looked into the weed shops :lol: But you will probably find some good deals there. let us know what you find

spikehs 01-08-2003 07:04 AM

deals on what? :shock: :D

Samw 01-08-2003 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EmilyB
Yes, there is one that has nasty ignorant employees - it's by the meat deli...


Speaking of employees at hydroponic shops, at the only shop I've ever visited, the first thing the employee says to me is "Is that your Dodge? Don't you know that Dodge cars are junk?". Wasn't impressed.

Son Of Skyline 01-08-2003 07:12 AM

I bought some MH lighting from the weed shop and I saved a ton! I also bought a Mag18 for cheap there.


First time I walked in a guy was just walking out with his new "Mushroom Growing Starter Kit"...the shop guy says to him..."Hey you should probably put that in a garbage bag"....and the guy walking out goes..."It's ok, my car's just outside"... :lol:

rossb 01-08-2003 04:05 PM

I have purchase parts from both of the "hydroponics" stores. Of the two mentioned quick grow(QG) (it is on Edmontrail and about 15th street on the east side of the raod) is cheaper by quite a bit. You can get a 175 W Mh, reflector and ballast (in the 5000K range) for $175. Their plumbing parts are cheaper as are their meters (75ish bucks for a reconditioned Ph meter). The sell ballasted screw in CF lights in the 6500K range for about a buck a watt (85W -$89, 95W -$100, 125W -$120).

The other place Bumper Crop is quite a bit more expensive but is kind of uptown. AT QG ..well I was in there before xmas and the clerks were smoking, the customers were smoking and everyone thought it was quite normal. At BC I think they are going for the legitmate customers and they sell some excellent indoor/outdoor self watering products. Lights are more expensive and they carry lights above 175 Watts. They have good prices on Mag drives. They are also next door to base electronics..a great electronics store.

Josh23 01-08-2003 04:26 PM

I have bought from Quick Grow on Edmonton Trail as well. I found that they had really good prices on pumps and plumbing parts. Im not so sure about lighting as I have never looked at it. I did hear however that the lights would create a green glow as they are used to grow plants, not sure how correct that is.

Josh

Delphinus 01-08-2003 05:14 PM

A Metal halide ballast is a metal halide ballast. A bulb, is not necessarily a bulb though. So yeah ... don't buy the plant bulbs, but the ballasts are fair game (assuming they have a good deal on it).

Ross hit the nail on the head as for descriptions of both QuickGrow and BumperCrop. QuickGrow, good selection, good prices, but you better like the smell of tobacco smoke. Stupid smokers. (Sorry to all you smokers out there who I just offended. Um ... actually, no, not sorry. Stop smoking you dumb person!) Bumper Crop ... far more upscale. Have all the parts you need and then some (e.g., replacement Mag drive impellers IN STOCK!!), prices are not bad (I paid $50 for one of my 250W MH ballasts there).

Quinn 01-08-2003 08:13 PM

i may have misunderstood, but does this mean that the weed shops don't sell anything about 175w? i'm interested in 250w and 400w, either way, i'll have to check it out.

it is legal to possess magic mushrooms in canada provided they are not dried adults. in other words, you can have spores and live ones (in manure or whatnot).

Delphinus 01-08-2003 08:19 PM

Although it's always worth checking into, it's somewhat doubtful to find much in the 175W size at the hydroponics stores. 175W is of limited use for the plant growers -- they like 400W and 1000W usually. You mmmmight be able to find 250W ballasts if you call around. The reason I got such a good deal on the 250W ballast that I purchased was that none of the plant growing buyers were interested in it, thus the store was really all too happy just to unload it when I called and asked for one.

Josh23 01-08-2003 08:51 PM

Tony.
With that 250 watt ballast from the hydroponics shop is there anything you need to look for or is a ballast a ballast. I would assume this ballast you bought would be similar to a standard PFO single bulb ballast.

Josh

Aquattro 01-08-2003 09:08 PM

Josh, what bulb do you want to run with this ballast?

EmilyB 01-08-2003 09:26 PM

Good point Brad.....these ballasts run 10kk REAL yellow Josh, if you were leaning that way.

Delphinus 01-08-2003 09:43 PM

I've not heard many good things about 10000K bulbs in any brand in the 250W size. I shouldn't say that. What I mean is, I've known a few people to be disappointed after switching to 10000K's in the 250W size (Deb switched from 14000K [then switched back, what, about 6 hours later]. :P And DJ88, who was switching from 250W Iwasaki! You'd think it'd be the other way around.) I've heard good things about the 400W size (DJ88 switched to 400W 10000K and LOVED it, I saw his tank in person and agree the colour was sweet). I know I love my 175W 10000K's and I just run them on typical Phillips M57 ballasts which I picked up from HD at what ... $30 a ballast or whatever silly deal it was (boy I wish they still sold MH ballasts ... I notice they still sell HPS ballasts but I guess us aquarists cleaned them out on their MH stock). Not the least bit of yellow (in my opinion). Granted, it's not as blue as Deb's tanks, it's more of a "crisp white" colour. In my opinion, anyways. For all I know I'm colour blind .... 8)

Bob I 01-09-2003 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rossb
I have purchase parts from both of the "hydroponics" stores. Of the two mentioned quick grow(QG) (it is on Edmontrail and about 15th street on the east side of the raod) is cheaper by quite a bit.

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That would be 15th Avenue, because E Trail is a street. I just drove by on my way to Pisces, and I can't recall if it is before 16th Ave, or past.

Quinn 01-09-2003 09:06 PM

looks like it won't matter. i've found a guy in the united states that will sell me a dual 400w setup with new iwasaki 10k bulbs for $150 US. i'm going to have to shipped through my companies broker on the border and i doubt shipping will be more than $100. sounds like a good deal to me, now i can start designing my canopy.

Canadian Man 01-09-2003 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teevee
looks like it won't matter. i've found a guy in the united states that will sell me a dual 400w setup with new iwasaki 10k bulbs for $150 US. i'm going to have to shipped through my companies broker on the border and i doubt shipping will be more than $100. sounds like a good deal to me, now i can start designing my canopy.

Iwasaki's are a 6500k bulb?

Quinn 01-09-2003 10:53 PM

they don't come in 10k at all? i'll have to check on that one. either way i'm planning to go with actinics as well so i think i'll be ok.

rossb 01-09-2003 11:03 PM

rcipema corrected
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That would be 15th Avenue, because E Trail is a street. I just drove by on my way to Pisces, and I can't recall if it is before 16th Ave, or past.
that would be correct. I lived in Red Deer too long...and now I can never get the streets and avenues correct (in either city)

Bob I 01-09-2003 11:33 PM

Quote:

that would be correct. I lived in Red Deer too long...and now I can never get the streets and avenues correct (in either city)
Streets run North / South, and avenues run East/west. And here is another goody you may or may not know. Even numbered house numbers are North and East, and odd numbers are on the south and west. I have an odd feeling you wanted to know that. 8) 8) :D

Quinn 01-12-2003 10:19 PM

red deer is a pretty screwed-up place. apparently it has the highest population of whites per capita in the world.

luckily i travel enough, i can remember which way the roads run.

Bob I 01-12-2003 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teevee
red deer is a pretty screwed-up place. apparently it has the highest population of whites per capita in the world.

Really?

Canadian Man 01-12-2003 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teevee
they don't come in 10k at all? i'll have to check on that one. either way i'm planning to go with actinics as well so i think i'll be ok.

Sorry to take so long :?
The Iwasaki bulbs are a 6500k bulb.
You of course can get many other flavours of bulbs.
5500k, 6500k 10 000k, 14 000k, 20 000k ....... :wink:

Quinn 01-12-2003 10:52 PM

no problem. turns out they were 10k germans, therefore hamiltons probably right? the setup will be shipped this week. now if only i could find a used 120gal. i don't want to spend 1/3 of my startup budget on a tank. it needs to cover skimmer, tank, lighting, pump, etc.

Josh23 01-12-2003 11:26 PM

Just wondering if anyone here has ever bought a reflector from a Hydroponics shop and if so how much did you pay, how well do they work, and would you recomend it.

Josh


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