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albert_dao 07-18-2007 03:15 PM

I had to throw my underwear into the laundry just now...
 
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z.../Lager2081.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z.../Lager2061.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...ve/Lager41.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...ve/Lager31.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...ve/Lager11.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...erkstatt31.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...erkstatt11.jpg

Klaus sure has his stuff together eh?

Der_Iron_Chef 07-18-2007 03:17 PM

(I had to throw my underwear into the laundry just now...) X 2.

Daaaaaayum.

Mik_101 07-18-2007 03:18 PM

SKIMMER LAND....and much much more. lol

Justusfish 07-18-2007 03:20 PM

underwear
 
why use the laundry? A couple of spins in the giant skimmer and they'll be as good as new

michika 07-18-2007 03:20 PM

*drool*

Its like a toy store, but for reef addicts!

christyf5 07-18-2007 03:20 PM

Wow, thats like a reefers candy store eh?:biggrin:

Delphinus 07-18-2007 03:27 PM

How did this person get into my basement to take pictures of it????

Mik_101 07-18-2007 03:30 PM

Tony NICE BASEMENT man.

fkshiu 07-18-2007 03:58 PM

Check out all the Hagen boxes sitting on the ground. Lends credence to the rumour that the vaunted Red Dragon pumps are merely Hagen (yes, Hagen) pond pumps with customized impellers and volutes.

argileh 07-18-2007 04:40 PM

what brand are these skimmers

Raf 07-18-2007 04:44 PM

I laughed at the pic with the calculator on the desk.....money money money....!!!!!

fkshiu 07-18-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argileh (Post 260889)
what brand are these skimmers


They're Bubble Kings:
http://english.royal-exclusiv.de/ski...ubble-King.htm

Here's some US pricing:

http://www.captiveoceans.com/mm5/mer...de=Bubble_King

(now you know why Albert got his knickers in a knot . . .)

ClubReef 07-18-2007 05:18 PM

Imagine if one of the racks toppled over....

Mik_101 07-18-2007 06:15 PM

That wouldent be very fun. At all.

fkshiu 07-18-2007 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClubReef (Post 260898)
Imagine if one of the racks toppled over....

It's half cm-thick cell-cast acrylic: should be manly enough to survive the bump.

Chin_Lee 07-18-2007 06:34 PM

part number
 
Looks like the part number is PT352VDE but nothing comes up on online search

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 260872)
Check out all the Hagen boxes sitting on the ground. Lends credence to the rumour that the vaunted Red Dragon pumps are merely Hagen (yes, Hagen) pond pumps with customized impellers and volutes.


muck 07-18-2007 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chin_Lee (Post 260913)
Looks like the part number is PT352VDE but nothing comes up on online search

Maybe not but Hagen does have a model PT-352 pond pump. Im guessing the "VDE" is for the special mods that were done (if the rumour is true).

http://www.hagen.com/canada/english/...03003520010101

albert_dao 07-18-2007 07:01 PM

The pumps are of the same lineage as the Laguna Maxflow series. However, they're custom manufactured by Askoll for Royal Exclusive. Hahnmeister on RC went through a lot of work trying to replicate them with stock Laguna pumps. Not quite the same, but he came close with a lot of effort.

muck 07-18-2007 07:04 PM

Thanks for posting the photos Al-B!! :biggrin:

ClubReef 07-18-2007 07:06 PM

how much are the stock Hagens?

albert_dao 07-18-2007 07:10 PM

$100 - $225. But you won't get the head pressure of the RD's by modding them.

fkshiu 07-18-2007 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClubReef (Post 260924)
how much are the stock Hagens?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Laguna-Pond-Max-...QQcmdZViewItem

Chin_Lee 07-18-2007 07:12 PM

I believe the volute is also modified to accomodate the PF4 mesh

albert_dao 07-18-2007 07:36 PM

That and the increased airflow. Keep in mind that Hahn's mods were geared towards producing a GREAT skimmer pump, not a GREAT return pump, which the RD's are.

support@proline 07-19-2007 01:13 AM

Albert thank you for posting these pictures.
Klaus was kind enough to send us some pictures from Royal-exclusive factory In Colonge Germany.
I will ask Klaus again in regards to the similarities of the 2 pumps ,but I can assure you that they are not the same,Albert is right about the skimmer pump & RD difference & also thse are the new generation RD & the new ocean simulators that will hit the market by the end of september.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/reeftec/rd2.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/reeftec/rd3.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/reeftec/rd4.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ftec/rd4-1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/reeftec/rd5.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/reeftec/rd6.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/reeftec/rd7.jpg
You can see the different motor blocks being tested for a log time here also,tested in hotwater ,SW,also you can see the dimmable reddragon brushless,DC pump with the controller ,We will be showing these products @ MACNA ,the dimmable pumps are what we really excited about ,I will try to get a couple of pictures of different cross current wave designs in German Tanks using this system.
Regards
Jason

support@proline 07-19-2007 01:49 AM

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This is my own tank I am in the process of setting up ,
In the bottom picture you will see the 2 holes which will be used as an intake for an RDII pump ,the pumps will be dimmed @ opposite so
pump A 100% -------pump B 0%
pump A 0%--------pump B 100%
so you will create suction out of different holes in different amounts in a set period.
The holes on the overflow pane will be used as the output in a cross patteren,so the one line will blow the other @ 0 & vice versa.
This will eliminate the need for any Oceanmotions,Wave box & other methods ,the currents changes are alot more gentle & also the current will become less directional & more irregular

albert_dao 07-19-2007 03:25 AM

The, uhhh, jealousy factor is like x100234 on my end right now Jason...

support@proline 07-19-2007 07:05 AM

Don't Worry Al,the price is not going to be as bad as you think ,ofcourse more than other products but does the job of a few streams & wave boxes,I believe the smallest RDII pushes something more than 5000gal/hr .
It's an inovative approach IMHO,which makes it interesting ,I will keep you posted once I get the tank.:mrgreen:

albert_dao 07-19-2007 07:29 AM

Oh, how come the holes are so small in that tank man?

support@proline 07-19-2007 08:53 AM

Are you talking about the exit holes?
Originally was thinking 4x3/4" but the final design was changed to 4x 1",& the Intakes are 2.5" each . so I think that should be fine considering the union on the RDII I had in mind will work fine with 1.5" but we will use a reducer from
2.5" to 1.5"on each intake.

kari 07-21-2007 04:25 PM

Didn't notice any skimmers in the photos, just the shop tools.

albert_dao 07-22-2007 08:59 PM

You haven't had enough beers yet Kari.

lastlight 07-23-2007 03:58 AM

Best post ever?


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