Naso Tang??
 

Ok I have a 46 gallon tank and i relay want to keep a baby naso in there that is about 1-1.5 inches and trade him/her once they get over 4 inches? Iv asked this at a few fish stores (Ocean aquatics, King ed) and they said it "ya should be fine till it gets over 5 inches) so after it gets over that size I'm trading him/her for a baby naso(you gotta love naso tangs):biggrin: :lol:

naso tang
 

-I'm pretty sure a 46-gallon is 2 small, same as my idea of puttin' a bluechin triggerfish in my 33-gallon, but hey u can always try!

-Mind u nasos are the opposite of bluechin triggers, peaceful,reef compatible, and herbivores, but require 125-gallon minimum!

I can't see why any one would buy a fish and let it grow only to turn around and trade him back in for a smaller one.:question:

To each it's own

Correct me if i am wrong but don't Naso Tangs get their coloring when the mature? All the immature naso's i have seen are mostly a dull grey and only start to get the classic "make-up" on the forehead and lips etc when they mature.... and don't forget the streamers from their tail too....

Let me know if i am off base..... but wouldn't it be hard to give up a naso once it started to come into it's color and trade it for a immature individual....:wink:

because it will grow out my tank..

Ya it will be hard giving him/her up but what can you do.

If i may ask....what do you see in the juvy naso that is so appealing?

That they look relay nice. Ok maybe not to you guys but don't people have different taste. I do relay like it as an adult but how the heck am i gona keep a fish 10+ inches in my tank. It would be phcyco in there.

I agree, I 've had a naso since it was a very small juvi (4+years now) As a juvi they are very dull, basically grey. Didn't really "look" like a naso for a couple of years.

till what size do you think I can keep him how many inches>

Fish become pets. Or so I would hope is common..I myself don't think you should view them as trade-ins as they grow. :neutral:

Ya thats true I realy LUV fish right now all i have is 2 clown and 3 chromis but i have cichlids and ya for me running two tanks is a huge job i cant get rid of them so ill see for how long i can hold onto my naso tang.

There has got to be another fish you would like just as much that you wouldn't have to trade in? I had a naso in my 120 untill i took it down and yes they are beautifull fish but putting one in and then taking it out is to stressfull on the fish and you are going to risk ich and other diseases everytime you do this.Start small and work your way up. We all can't have what we want in our tanks and if we do then we have either gone up in tank size to do so or sacraficed something else. This is not the hobby to just go on a whim. Think about the best interest of the fish not what you really want. I have a kid your age and she is the same way with the naso but had to suck it up when we moved to the 90 as it just isn't big enough. They need a lot of room to swim and move about to be happy.

just my .02

It kinda sounds like you like the idea of a naso tang right now more than anything...

All that aside what happens when you have one that grows to big and you can't find someone to take it off your hands??

Just my 2 cents.... food for thought....

naso tang
 

-I agree and i disagree, i meen ya naso isn't the most compatible
fish for a 46-gallon but u know what, if he gave it a proper habitat,proper water conditions and proper feedings and of course compatibility I honestly think that a small naso shouldn't be 2 hard 2 pull off.

I believe a fish that's minimum requirements are a large tank require a large tank from birth. It's just in there genes.

There are a ton of fish out there that will do great in a 46G tank, why risk it

J

naso
 

-Ya i guess if it's too unnatural an environment that can be a problem, still an improvement from the 10-30 gallons it's kept in @ the fish store tho
that u gotta admit!

I'd say skip the naso, they grow really fast. In a 46 I would say skip all tangs, they will produce too much waste, and they grow far too fast.

Why not look into pygmy, or dwarf angels?

Dont get me wrong... i understand your sentiment... but i think having mentality is where the expression "Out of the frying pan into the fire" came from.... lol

Because dwaf angles nip at corals. Do you think a kole tang would be sutable

Do tangs really produce that much waste??

Not all angels nip, I've had quite a few that were model citizens, lemonpeel, singapore, white tail, emperor, regal. It seems that as long as you keep your fish well fed with a variety of foods they don't seem to stray.

Kole tangs still get too big. While they do clean glass and rocks quite well, they aren't small tank fish.

When you balance out what they do for the system, vs. what they take from it, its unequal. Tangs eat a lot, but they produce a huge amount of waste. Most of the food they eat needs to be added to the tank, vs. a fish like a sixline wrasse, who will eat pods, something the tank naturally produces.

Well i gusse i cant keep a tang at all then so im just gona get a lemon pell angle or somthing of that sort.:cry: :cry: :cry:

interestin' pic lol

Ok do you think this would be a sutible fish in my tank. My tank agine is 46 g and thos fish is rated uptp 50 g thats only 4 gallons to small) and the fish ihad in mind was a Mertensii Butterflyfish
My tank will mostly have about 50%sps.

Quote form Pet Solutions.com "Mertensii Butterflyfish, Chaetodon mertensii, is often found living on or around the reefs of the Pacific Ocean. Members of the genus Chaetodon make gorgeous inhabitants of fish only aquariums. Soft Corals and most Invertebrates should do fine with the Butterflyfish, but it may likely decimate Stony Corals, as they are a part of its natural diet."

This Butterfly feeds almost exclusivly on SPS.

Were are you getting your fish list from? you seem to be picking fish you can't possibly have success with

http://www.amonline.net.au/fishes/fi...h/cmertens.htm This is the fish you mean? I've never had one, and wow is it beautiful.
There is a butterfly called a Yellowtail (Chaetodon xanthurus), that looks almost identical except it requires at least 55g.

I know you have some SPS, and LPS in your tank alread. Do you plan to fill it with SPS, and LPS later?

Yes those sps and Lps and a bit of softies.

Is ther any tang sutible for my tank that I can keep in ther.

No...I wanted to say "not really" but that could be misleading. The correct answer is no.

Tell everyone you plan to upgrade your tank to a 90 or a 120 within the next 6 months or so and you will get some answers more to your liking. You still wont like all the answers but I am sure a few would be ok for you.

Scott

Would one of thess be sutible
-Yellow tang
-kole tang
-Scopas tang

Skip all the tangs, they are all far too large for your system. Try browsing through some online shopes for other fish that you like that might thrive better in a smaller tank.

One of the most common pitfalls:

Convincing yourself that you CAN keep a fish even though the chances of success are unstable.

You keep asking if there is any Tang you can keep in your tank which leads me back to what i said before .... you like the idea of a tang more than the actual tang itself....

No one can tell you not to get a Tang and no one can keep you from getting one if you decide to do it.....but ultimately you have been given a lot of good advice on tangs and their compatability in a system such as yours..... which should be enough to convince you that a Tang is not the best choice of fish for your setup.......

Dogboy out....

Ok I finally made up my mind and I am going to get a Lemon peel angle. What are the chances he/she will nip at my corals?

50/50

Oh man that sucks for me. Im mainly going to have sps corals and I dont want anything to nip or sample them.

Best bets, in my opinion, for pygmy angels would be a flame angel or a potter's angel. There may be a few others but these ones are spectacular fish in my opinion and should do OK in your 46. They'll for sure leave your SPS alone, where things might get dicey with pygmy angels is with LPS and clam mantles, but these two species in particular should be OK even with those.

One caution though: one or the other, not both. Like many fish, they don't take too kindly to other fish with the same shape in their territory, as they view them as competition.

i have a Blonde naso in my 65 gallon tank. Had her for about 1 1/2 yrs and she is definatly way to big for my tank. But I would rather Have a larger tank, than get rid of my favorite fish. There for, I just bought bigger tank from Mike @ Hidden reef. Along with another Blonde Naso, only a Male this time...

The male Naso's have the streamers, but usually dont grow out until about 4"