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cooper 07-04-2007 07:02 AM

LF: 36" T5 Light Fixture
 
Am looking for a 36" T5 light fixture. Pm if you have one for sale.

andresont 07-04-2007 08:20 AM

Makes two of us !

cooper 07-04-2007 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andresont (Post 258603)
Makes two of us !


Hey buddy

which would be a good fish store to buy a T5 light fixture......at a decent price. Brand new T5 light fixtures are very expensive..

tang daddy 07-04-2007 04:55 PM

I bought one from hidden reef a couple months back HO t5 56w 20000k for my fowler and i'd have to say best t5 I ever seen now I'm not too sure you might want to call them 1st but they may have lower k bulbs for the application so it's not as blue also OA can get these in.
Chris

cooper 07-04-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tang daddy (Post 258620)
I bought one from hidden reef a couple months back HO t5 56w 20000k for my fowler and i'd have to say best t5 I ever seen now I'm not too sure you might want to call them 1st but they may have lower k bulbs for the application so it's not as blue also OA can get these in.
Chris

What brand is it? was it epxensive?

tang daddy 07-04-2007 11:56 PM

it was fairly cheap don't know the brand made in China but what isn't $50

SeaHorse_Fanatic 07-05-2007 12:59 AM

These ones TD is talking about are the light strips, not the full T5 units (like a Tek). Great light for the price though.

cooper 07-05-2007 01:03 AM

Am looking for the full T5 light fixture (like a Tek or Aquatinics)with 4 or 6 bulbs and independant reflectors

Melina 07-05-2007 06:14 AM

I bought a 36" Tek-Light T5 High Output Fixture today from Hidden Reef for $449.99, it holds 6 bulbs. They also sell Aquatinics 36" 5 Lamp T5 (39W T5HO) for $439.99

cooper 07-05-2007 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melina (Post 258734)
I bought a 36" Tek-Light T5 High Output Fixture today from Hidden Reef for $449.99, it holds 6 bulbs. They also sell Aquatinics 36" 5 Lamp T5 (39W T5HO) for $439.99



You paid $449.99? does that include taxes? bulbs and mounting bracket?

Thanks

Melina 07-05-2007 07:15 AM

It includes the mounting bracket only. Bulbs he let me have all 6 for 100$ extra.

andresont 07-05-2007 07:30 AM

yeah buddy, everyone tells me that indivdual Tek reflectors are key key key, for T5. That is why they are pricy.
I am in the light upgrade mode right now (i want to keep SPS and clams) and trying to decide what to do, ither go with 2 x 250 HQI DE MH pendants or 6xTek T5.
If i will go T5 way it will have to be TEK with 6 bulbs because in 36" size even though they are High Output it is 39Watt bulbs not 54W, But brackets are creasy expensive arn't they ?!

tang daddy 07-05-2007 07:31 AM

Better to go with used mh half a grand I could buy alot of stuff!

Melina 07-05-2007 07:46 AM

Yeah but if you go with the mh then you'll need a chiller to run them which means a lot more money if you don't already have a chiller.

andresont 07-05-2007 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tang daddy (Post 258755)
Better to go with used mh half a grand I could buy alot of stuff!

You could be right depending on what kind of staff you are talking about :)
In this hobby $500 is only a beginning.

andresont 07-05-2007 08:00 AM

ATI Power Module
 
http://www.hiddenreef.ca/storefront/...&categoryid=90

Does anybody knows if this fixture has individual reflectors ?
Melina?

andresont 07-05-2007 08:05 AM

http://www.hiddenreef.ca/storefront/...categoryid=127

This light with 6 bulbs for $100 and legs for $70 is $700 after tax.
So tired of looking, reading and thinking almost ready to call Hidden Reef ....

SeaHorse_Fanatic 07-05-2007 09:27 AM

$449.99 plus $100 for bulbs = $549.99 + tax = $627.49.

cooper 07-05-2007 03:19 PM

T5s Vs MH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Melina (Post 258757)
Yeah but if you go with the mh then you'll need a chiller to run them which means a lot more money if you don't already have a chiller.

I think you are right (Melina), usually MH create a heck of a lot of heat so a chiller would be needed. After all it might be cheaper to for a Tek T5 LF.

Did you pay $627.49 after taxes for the light fixture, bulbs and mounting brackets? that does not sounds too bad.

I know I could buy a HQI light fixture with that money but then I might have to buy a chiller due to heat and I don't really want to spend more money on a chiller.

dreef 07-05-2007 04:53 PM

T5"s
 
Go with the teks,you won't regret it,very low heat,i decided to go that route a year ago.No central air and main floor,i use the legs,mounted lights 6 " off the top.I was VERY lucky :) bought a 2 week old fixture off RC.. 8 Tube 48 inch...307 CAN shipped too my usa buds, 2 hrs away....Got the tubes on sale (ati) 20 bucks apeice.

Melina 07-05-2007 04:54 PM

that total sounds about right... I bought and ro/di and a skimmer too, so the taxes were added to the final total. But yeah, it was 549.99 all together for the lights.

cooper 07-05-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreef (Post 258809)
Go with the teks,you won't regret it,very low heat,i decided to go that route a year ago.No central air and main floor,i use the legs,mounted lights 6 " off the top.I was VERY lucky :) bought a 2 week old fixture off RC.. 8 Tube 48 inch...307 CAN shipped too my usa buds, 2 hrs away....Got the tubes on sale (ati) 20 bucks apeice.


I am leaning towards getting the T5s instead of MH. My apartment is all glass, windows from floor to ceiling so heat in the summer can be a problem. I am going to keep looking for a used full T5 light fixture and if I can't find anything used then I guess I'll have to buy it brand new:sad: .

Melina 07-05-2007 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper (Post 258819)
I am leaning towards getting the T5s instead of MH. My apartment is all glass, windows from floor to ceiling so heat in the summer can be a problem. I am going to keep looking for a used full T5 light fixture and if I can't find anything used then I guess I'll have to buy it brand new:sad: .

that sounds like a cool apartment!
out of curiosity (I'm new at this), will changing the lighting in your tank have an adverse effect on the livestock in it? Aren't they sensitive to light changes, just like they're sensitive to changes in temp., salinity, ph, etc?

cooper 07-05-2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melina (Post 258823)
that sounds like a cool apartment!
out of curiosity (I'm new at this), will changing the lighting in your tank have an adverse effect on the livestock in it? Aren't they sensitive to light changes, just like they're sensitive to changes in temp., salinity, ph, etc?


It is a cool apartment, I love it! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: . Great view of the mountains and ocean:razz: .

I am not an expert but I think that when you go from PC to MH you have to adapt your corals slowly because they are sensitive to sudden changes.

Melina 07-05-2007 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper (Post 258829)
It is a cool apartment, I love it! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: . Great view of the mountains and ocean:razz: .

I am not an expert but I think that when you go from PC to MH you have to adapt your corals slowly because they are sensitive to sudden changes.

how do you do that I wonder?:question:

cooper 07-06-2007 07:05 AM

wow..... T5s are almost as epxensive as MH .........

andresont 07-06-2007 07:12 AM

Ok, does anybody have a link to the official info on how often do i need to change t5's? cant find it on my own...
I heard 6-9 month is this correct?

Melina 07-06-2007 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andresont (Post 258942)
Ok, does anybody have a link to the official info on how often do i need to change t5's? cant find it on my own...
I heard 6-9 month is this correct?

hmmm Mark at Hidden Reef told me 12 months, I'll have to look into that too

tang daddy 07-06-2007 07:22 AM

T5 can be more expensive than mh now if you go witha 400w then you will need a chiller just think about it this way tek t5 with 6 bulbs how much wattage are they combined as oppose to a 175w mh think the heat issues are the same the only difference is the money you save in the end changing 6 bulbs vs changing 1 also if you live in an all glass apartment then you should be investing in a chiller or going with a reverse cycle on the lights for the summer I had a 175w mh all winter long on my 65g it was fine now I have a 400w mh sitting 4in from the water and when it's 30 outside with the lights off, tank sits about 27c at 5pm when the lights go on 27.2 at 6pm 28 so I got a chiller, my 30g anmone tank no chiller on a reverse cycle 26.7 all night strong the light sits right on the tank so you don't really need a chiller if you run your lights at night for 175w mh but 400 is debateble hope this was helpfull.

andresont 07-06-2007 07:35 AM

Also we should keep in mind that T5 bulbs at 36" long are not 54Watts they a re what 39W?
Not sure if this makes less ,heat but less light for sure compare to 48" long bulbs

andresont 07-06-2007 08:07 AM

Hey Melina, can you pls tell me how much light spill do you have from you 36" Tek T5x6 unit. ?
Is there a lot of light on the walls etc.
Say if you are at the front of your tank on a chair and the light fixture is above your eye level do you have bright area in view?
THX.

andresont 07-06-2007 08:22 AM

T5 vs 250DE MH on reef central
 
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1149579
Check this out.
Scroll down for "hahnmeister's" tests and pictures.
I wonder if any of you guys agree with his statement about T5 sun bulbs.
Quote
If I wanted more from the T5s, I could use sun bulbs rather than aquablues, and use more blue+ or daylight lamps rather than the true actinics. Actinics really handycap the T5s overall output. Likewise, I could run the pheonix on a HQI ballast... so things even out.
End quote

cooper 07-06-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tang daddy (Post 258944)
T5 can be more expensive than mh now if you go witha 400w then you will need a chiller just think about it this way tek t5 with 6 bulbs how much wattage are they combined as oppose to a 175w mh think the heat issues are the same the only difference is the money you save in the end changing 6 bulbs vs changing 1 also if you live in an all glass apartment then you should be investing in a chiller or going with a reverse cycle on the lights for the summer I had a 175w mh all winter long on my 65g it was fine now I have a 400w mh sitting 4in from the water and when it's 30 outside with the lights off, tank sits about 27c at 5pm when the lights go on 27.2 at 6pm 28 so I got a chiller, my 30g anmone tank no chiller on a reverse cycle 26.7 all night strong the light sits right on the tank so you don't really need a chiller if you run your lights at night for 175w mh but 400 is debateble hope this was helpfull.

So you think that by doing the reverse cycle I would be able to get by without having to buy a chiller? The MH light fixture that looked at comes with built in fans and I wonder if that really helps to get rid of the heat.

tang daddy 07-06-2007 05:03 PM

It will move heat the fans but it also helps if you have fans blowing across the surface of your tank which will get rid of more heat 39-40watts x6 =240w vs 175w mh save on your electricity bill aswell more efficient also running your lights at night will be cooler for the tank just until the heat wave dissapates and in the daytime with the lights off your tank should be stable depending on where the sun rises and sets if your apartment is getting alot of sun I suggest you draw your blinds close so that it forms a trap for your heat between the window and your blinds also keep the windows open so that the air has a chance to escape with 175w mh you will be able to keep everything other than sps but some sps can be kept aswell beginer stuff like digis and montis up closer to the top.

cooper 07-06-2007 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tang daddy (Post 258966)
It will move heat the fans but it also helps if you have fans blowing across the surface of your tank which will get rid of more heat 39-40watts x6 =240w vs 175w mh save on your electricity bill aswell more efficient also running your lights at night will be cooler for the tank just until the heat wave dissapates and in the daytime with the lights off your tank should be stable depending on where the sun rises and sets if your apartment is getting alot of sun I suggest you draw your blinds close so that it forms a trap for your heat between the window and your blinds also keep the windows open so that the air has a chance to escape with 175w mh you will be able to keep everything other than sps but some sps can be kept aswell beginer stuff like digis and montis up closer to the top.

The MH LF that I am thinking about buying comes with 2X150 HQI + 2X39 T5s.

Melina 07-06-2007 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andresont (Post 258947)
Hey Melina, can you pls tell me how much light spill do you have from you 36" Tek T5x6 unit. ?
Is there a lot of light on the walls etc.
Say if you are at the front of your tank on a chair and the light fixture is above your eye level do you have bright area in view?
THX.

Sorry I can't tell you because the fixture will only be here on Tuesday and I don't even have my tank yet :biggrin:

SeaHorse_Fanatic 07-06-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melina (Post 258830)
how do you do that I wonder?:question:

You would adapt the corals by having the MH light higher & slowly lowering it &/or having the MH photoperiod short (say 4 hrs to start) and then increasing it gradually over the period of a couple of weeks.

If you have corals under lower light & suddenly brighten up the tank with more powerful lights without changing anything, then your corals might experience light-shock & bleach out or melt even (turn to brown slime).

Anthony

andresont 07-07-2007 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melina (Post 258943)
hmmm Mark at Hidden Reef told me 12 months, I'll have to look into that too

As per these guys the Aquablue+ is good for 24 month !

http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/cat...roducts_id=480


http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/cat...hp?cPath=28_39

Melina 07-07-2007 02:02 AM

Thanks for the info!

Melina 07-07-2007 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 258972)
You would adapt the corals by having the MH light higher & slowly lowering it &/or having the MH photoperiod short (say 4 hrs to start) and then increasing it gradually over the period of a couple of weeks.

If you have corals under lower light & suddenly brighten up the tank with more powerful lights without changing anything, then your corals might experience light-shock & bleach out or melt even (turn to brown slime).

Anthony

Thanks for the info!


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