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Chin_Lee 07-20-2006 04:26 PM

Group order for Tang Heaven - NO MORE ORDERS
 
Hey everybody
I obviously don't learn very well from my previous group orders but here goes another attempt (although is amazing the number of people who expressed interests after the purchases are made)

I have been interested in buying some gracilaria for sometime now but the cost of shipping have been the primary holdback for not buying it earlier. But I'll put it out there for anybody who may be interested in jumping in on a group buy to miminize the cost of shipping.
The algae that I am talking about is the gracilaria spp. which is also known and sold as Tang Heaven by some retail outlets.

http://www.fragoutpost.com/user/uplo...39.236.221.jpg
The reason I want to get his is because I have an achilles tang that I really want to remain healthy and this algae is one of its natural foods in the Hawaii area. Some literature of this algae is as follows:
http://www.ipsf.com/tangheaveninstructions.html
and
http://www.ipsf.com/#anchor49645


The place I am planning to buy it from is the University of Miami that produces these stuff in their labs for Sea Hares to feed on:
http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/groups/sea-hares/
and
http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/groups/se...e-growout.html

The ordering web page is:
http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/groups/se...ug-prices.html

I have been given the membership pricing if I purchase 5 lbs or more which is $8 per pound (and the overnight Fedex shipping will be around $70 for 6 lbs)

The more people to jump in on the group buy, the less that the shipping cost will be. And to make things simple, lets make the purchases at 1 lb denominations.

Please reply if you are interested with the # of lbs you would like to order. If and when I do get enough interest, I will then post a closing date.

Xtasia 07-20-2006 04:35 PM

I'm in. 1 lb.

Ruth 07-20-2006 05:51 PM

Chin if you are willing to ship it up to me after if gets to your pad I would be in for 5 lbs.

OAcalgary 07-20-2006 06:27 PM

10lbs for me. pick up.

Chin_Lee 07-20-2006 06:32 PM

Cost going down
 
it looks like the shipping cost is dropping rather quickly as the volume of algae is increasing rapidly.

BTW - shipping costs will be divided by the weight of algae you are purchasing. (in other words you will pay for 1 lbs shipping if you order 1 lbs)

Please post your interest ASAP as this group buy may be ending very soon.

Willow 07-20-2006 06:34 PM

how much quanity do you think is in a pound of this chin? would it fill a juice jug?

Chin_Lee 07-20-2006 06:42 PM

???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Willow
how much quanity do you think is in a pound of this chin? would it fill a juice jug?

John
I was given the box dimension for 5-6 lbs which is 17"x17"x10" and that includes space for 2 lbs of ice and 1.5 lbs for the shipping container. So I will say 1 lb should fill a juice jug but thats just a guess.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 07-20-2006 06:58 PM

Put me down for 1 lb Chin. Thanks.

targa81 07-20-2006 07:13 PM

I would also like 1 lb , thanks, Mike.

jimmyray 07-20-2006 07:26 PM

1 lb please thanx Jim

Psyire 07-20-2006 07:40 PM

I'll take 2 lbs. (if you are willing to ship it once you recieve it)

Funky_Fish14 07-20-2006 07:43 PM

If you can ship it to me after it gets to your place... I'd be down for 3 lbs? I would pay for shipping to Edmonton ofcourse.

Thanks!

Chris

Chin_Lee 07-20-2006 07:48 PM

Re-Shipping
 
reshipping this item may not be good idea because it is an algae, the company recommends overnight delivery which is rather pricey. However I have no problems doing it but you may be dinged with double shipping. I would recommend doing a seperate order for Edmonton and Calgary if there is enough interest there.
Depending on the final total, I'll let you all know about shipping.

Funky_Fish14 07-20-2006 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chin_Lee
reshipping this item may not be good idea because it is an algae, the company recommends overnight delivery which is rather pricey. However I have no problems doing it but you may be dinged with double shipping. I would recommend doing a seperate order for Edmonton and Calgary if there is enough interest there.
Depending on the final total, I'll let you all know about shipping.

Im sure they would reccomend that though, rather than a group buy, as the group buy drops their profit margin... more individual orders would yeiled higher payments for each lb of algae, no:question:

I guess a second 'alberta' order would be a possibility, I personally am not concerned about the double ding for shipping though.

Thanks for the heads up on this and coordinating it all!

Chris

Chin_Lee 07-20-2006 08:01 PM

profit margin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky_Fish14
Im sure they would reccomend that though, rather than a group buy, as the group buy drops their profit margin... more individual orders would yeiled higher payments for each lb of algae, no:question:

I guess a second 'alberta' order would be a possibility, I personally am not concerned about the double ding for shipping though.

Thanks for the heads up on this and coordinating it all!

Chris

chris
the price of $8 per lb does not decrease with volume so there is no gain nor loss by recommending different orders. I'll see how things go by the end of today.

seashells 07-20-2006 08:20 PM

Hey, I'am in for 2 pounds!

Doug

Chad 07-20-2006 08:28 PM

I'll take 1lb if your still taking orders.

skylord 07-20-2006 09:04 PM

Im in for a pound.

marie 07-20-2006 10:07 PM

If you could send it up on the bus to me I would be interested in 2 lbs

Funky_Fish14 07-20-2006 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chin_Lee
I have been given the membership pricing if I purchase 5 lbs or more which is $8 per pound (and the overnight Fedex shipping will be around $70 for 6 lbs)

This was the conflicting satement that made me think what I did... it sounds like the purchase of at least 5lbs drops the price... If everyone were to order individually, not everyone would take 5lbs, as most are taking one or two. That would raise the price per lb for the business, no? Unless im clompletely misunderstanding the above statement. Anyways, thats not the point...:lol:

I am pondering an Edmonton order if anyone from AB is interested.. I already have 5lbs at least accounted for, and I wouldnt have a problem shipping portions to Calgary or north of Ed... at your own risk ofcourse, but algae shouldnt be tough to ship... cheato ships dry doesnt it? I would ship this wet ofcourse though. At your own risk though, if its not reccomended.

Chris

muck 07-20-2006 10:58 PM

We need a thread in the Edmonton forum Chris.. :cool:

Funky_Fish14 07-20-2006 11:30 PM

Right, this is in the Van forum... Thanks Ryan :lol:

Chin_Lee 07-21-2006 06:55 AM

OK heres what I have for Day 1:
Chin Lee - 5 lbs
Xtasia - 1 lb
Ruth - 5 lbs
OACalgary - 10 lbs
Seahorse - 1 lb
Targa81 - 1 lb
Jimmyray - 1 lb
Seashells - 2 lbs
Chad - 1 lb
Skylord - 1 lb
Marie - 2 lbs
_______________
subtotal - 30 lbs

Possible Edmonton order depending on their group buy interest:
Psyire - 2 lbs (i am assuming you will be part of the Edmonton group buy?)
Funkyfish - 3 lbs
Muck 2 lbs
______________
subtotal 7 lbs

Man thats a lot of algae!!!!

Willow 07-21-2006 02:30 PM

I think he means.. so long as the total order is over 5 lbs it will be at the $8 rate.... not if each person orders over 5lbs.

- Xtasia too lazy to change the user id.

Chin_Lee 07-22-2006 12:39 AM

Group buy closing on Sunday
 
Sunday night will be the closing of the group buy. I will contact the company on Monday for shipment on Tuesday and I'll pick it up on Wed. I'll keep you all posted.

Edmonton fellas: please let me know by Sunday night on your order.

Tigger 07-22-2006 05:46 AM

I will take 2 pounds.

Thanks for organizing all of this Chin

Chin_Lee 07-22-2006 03:47 PM

limit to one container
 
Hi everybody
I have been advised by the company that 30 lbs of algae will require 2 boxes for shipping. I will prefer to limit the order to one box and I am waiting for a response for the maximum amount that will fit into one box. Depending on the response, I may have to limit some people's orders (5-10 lb ranges). I have chosen this method so more people can get a portion of algae as opposed to first come first serve.
I will futher communicate with you via PM if this is the case with you and when I find out the maximum amount algae that will fit in a box.
Chin Lee - 5 lbs
Xtasia - 1 lb
Ruth - 5 lbs
OACalgary - 10 lbs (pending)
Seahorse - 3 lb (changed as per PM)
Targa81 - 1 lb
Jimmyray - 3 lb (changed as per PM)
Seashells - 2 lbs
Chad - 1 lb
Skylord - 1 lb
Marie - 2 lbs
Tigger - 2 lbs
Rikko - 1 lb
GMGQ - 1 lb
More1020 - 1 lb
------------------
39 lbs

Willow 07-22-2006 08:06 PM

since oacalgary is ordering it probably for resale and isn't in our local vancouver club area maybe we could limit their order.

Rikko 07-22-2006 11:44 PM

I'm in for 1lb for sure, if we can still get more people in on it.

Chin, I didn't see in this thread if they said what they are willing to fit into a box. If we can organize 2 full boxes that should be fine, though if you don't want to handle all the foot traffic to pick it up from you, maybe someone else could receive that box.
I'd volunteer myself except I'm in the corner of the North Shore and somebody more central (Vancouver/Burnaby/Coquitlam) would probably be best for everyone picking up.

What do you think?

GMGQ 07-23-2006 01:35 AM

Chin, I PM'd you for 1lbs. Thanks!

Willow 07-23-2006 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikko
I'm in for 1lb for sure, if we can still get more people in on it.

Chin, I didn't see in this thread if they said what they are willing to fit into a box. If we can organize 2 full boxes that should be fine, though if you don't want to handle all the foot traffic to pick it up from you, maybe someone else could receive that box.
I'd volunteer myself except I'm in the corner of the North Shore and somebody more central (Vancouver/Burnaby/Coquitlam) would probably be best for everyone picking up.

What do you think?

im in richmond and work from home.

Chin_Lee 07-23-2006 04:49 AM

one box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikko
I'm in for 1lb for sure, if we can still get more people in on it.

Chin, I didn't see in this thread if they said what they are willing to fit into a box. If we can organize 2 full boxes that should be fine, though if you don't want to handle all the foot traffic to pick it up from you, maybe someone else could receive that box.
I'd volunteer myself except I'm in the corner of the North Shore and somebody more central (Vancouver/Burnaby/Coquitlam) would probably be best for everyone picking up.

What do you think?

Good thoughts but the method in which I am picking it up I will need to do my darnest to keep it to one box.
Thanks
chin

Rikko 07-23-2006 06:23 AM

What method is that? Surely we could duplicate it for another 'receiver'?

more1020 07-23-2006 09:47 PM

I would like to take 2lb. Thanks!

Tigger 07-24-2006 06:56 AM

Hey Chin

Did you get my order, or am I listed under the wrong name?

Chin_Lee 07-24-2006 07:06 AM

cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikko
What method is that? Surely we could duplicate it for another 'receiver'?

I am mitigating my risk at this time with this group buy; I did not expect it to get this large.
According to the FEDEX website, overnight shipping for a 17x17x20" container is going to cost me about $135 US. I am hoping to get 15-25 lbs of seaweed into the container which will cost me an additional $120-200.
I am just not prepared to double that cost because I am already going to have to pay $255-335 USD in advance (~ $280-350 CDN).
For me to ship two boxes will cost me anywhere from $600-700. And we all know from a group buy that somebody will "change" their mind and I will end up with more than I wanted.
My apologies to those who may be affected but I just can't afford the risk on two boxes. I am waiting for a response on the maximum weight for one box.

For those who are interested in what this may cost:
A) Shipping of $135 USD is about $150 CDN so shipping cost will be anywhere from $6-10 per lb depending on how much will fit in the box

B) The algae is $8/lb USD which is about $9 CDN.

So be prepared to pay anywhere from

$15 to $20 per lb of algae.

If anybody would like to change their minds, please let me know.
Thanks

Xtasia 07-24-2006 04:17 PM

Chin, Why don't you just order the maximum amount and sell to hobbyists that reserved in priority sequence, then work your way down. From the looks of it, there appears to be more buyers than weed available so you should be in good shape. I'm also willing to pay you in advance.

I'd also make it clear that pick up should be on the day of arrival ro something of that gist or you might end up with holding onto weed until a "convenient day" sometime 3 weeks from arrival...

seashells 07-24-2006 06:24 PM

PM'd ya

Ruth 07-24-2006 06:43 PM

i'm still in Chin if you are willing to ship to me after it arrives (of course I will pay for my cost of the original shipping and the cost of shipping to me) Send me a PM and LMK cost and I will send $ immediately.

Rikko 07-25-2006 02:43 AM

I'd still be up for that, and considering the high upfront cost you're looking at, I think it's pretty reasonable to suggest everyone who's interested pay a deposit of what we think the final cost will be (and the final amount payable on pickup, because estimates are invariably wrong!).
Trusting one guy with 800 posts with 20 bucks of mine is easier than trusting a vast swarm of us with $700 :P


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