This Happened Across the Street from Us
 

Sorry, I've just got to vent......

I'm sure, by now, many Edmontonians have heard about this horrifying story...

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjourna...0e8ba2&k=98852

Yesterday, we heard about this sickening event when the school involved, which is just across the street from us where our daughter attended Jr. High, and the EPS posted notices in our building's foyer :sad:

This morning during rush hour in front of our building, a very visible cop was stopping traffic driving both north and south on our street. He gave drivers papers to fill out and return to him.

At noon, when I got back from food shopping, there were cops in the building going from door to door, collecting information from residents and giving out a written description of the man who did this unspeakable crime :eek:

Just now, I saw four cops walk toward the school from the Jasper Ave area.

This neighbourhood is in police lock down. Thank goodness!!!!! We can only hope the cops found enough forensic evidence to convict the evil person if/when they catch him.

....end of vent.

One word. "Castration!!!"

The Scary thing is, My 2 oldest where at the local swimming pool here in the grove on Sunday, where a Black man came up to them and gave $5 for the vending machines :eek:

They took the money, but they ensist that he didnt ask for anything and just left, we have notified the TLC and now thinking maybe i should call the RCMP out here as well

WE have had this discussion with our kids over and over, but sunday was the worst i think they have heard it from us

better yet a bullet between the legs and then between the eyes

tie him down and let the mother of the girl at him

I'm at a loss for words. I don't know what to do to the man...cut his arms off? I certainly don't want my taxes going towards keeping creeps like him alive..even in prison.

Pretty spooky. My daughter goes to that school. I hope he is apprehended soon -- I suspect we'll find it's someone who isn't completely balanced. There seems to be some backlash at the school, though, which I find distasteful. The school takes normal precautions, but you don't want to send your kids to prison. Some parents are taking the perspective that the school should (have been) a fortress. I hope that this practically unprecedented incident doesn't put everyone into a fear-based bunker mentality. That would be a real shame.

Matt

FYI Mark,

From the literature the EPS left with us....

FULL DESCRIPTION OF THE SUSPECT:

- Adult black-skinned male
- Wearing a red shirt, and a red and white jacket
- Clean shaven
- Medium length black hair with one orange or yellow streak on each side of the head coming from the middle
- No sunglasses
- Skinny build

I can't even say what I think should happen to this SOB as I would probably be kicked off the board. I have no patience or sympathy for these sick individuals that do disgusting things to little children. They don't belong in society - they don't deserve my $ to keep them in prison - they are absolute slime.

I agree with you 100%.
Debbie

The thing I hate most about these situations is that once the person is caught there never seems to be anything done. Look at the man who only got three years for producing numerous amounts of photographs of him assaulting kids. They had evidence on him committing the crimes however he still only gets three years. This man also assaulted numerous amounts of people in the past.

It is these types of situations that make me really think about having children. Sure I cant prevent them from some things but not everything and crimes like this can destroy a child. It would be nice if we could even have support from the justice system.

Sorry I feel like screaming. Thanks for letting me vent.

Is Oliver a primary to Jr. High now? I didn't think there were any schools in Edmonton that were grade 1 through 9

Steve

Oliver School has an elementary program, and also hosts the "Nellie McLung" Jr. High program. It is an all-girl's Jr. High.

I agree with this one too. Hell hath no fury as a womans scorn!
:twised:

A quote from today's story on the event ....

The rest of today's story. Don't know why they did not post the sketch of this guy like they did in today's newspaper ....

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjourna...e14c4e&k=63578

I would think a guy with that description would stand out like a sore thumb ,someone must recognize him!
This is obviously a very sick person who needs to be confined for the protection of the public.

Side note. I don't think his color is relevent. And he may have just been friendly an nice. :redface:

no the scary thing is that people are still scared of BLACK people! If a white man gave your kids money for the vending machines, you'd probably think he was some nice man..

I feel sorry for the little girl, but im happy she wasn't raped...

But I feel really REALLY sorry for the scores and scores of black men who fit that general description who will be pulled over and harrassed until they find this man... because i wouldn't wish to subject anyone to the harrassment that our racist police force can dish out...

Just my two cents.

Why do people always have to go looking for stuff like this?

I read that as a descriptive term used in the same way you would say white, tall, fat, old, asian or purple. As for relevance, the description of the guy who attacked the girl in the school was of someone with black skin.

Now that's just offensive, I think you owe Beemaster an apology. He's given you absolutely no reason to asume that.

Okay WTF!! I dont care the the damn colour of a person is! you come up and give my kids Money, Candy, Toys, or whatever and yea I am going to be concerned, who the hell are you to think just because he was black that i would be more concered? on a sidenote, do you even know what colour i am?


The relevence of his skin colour was due to what happened at a school here in edmonton, where a little girl was sexual assaulted by a black man!

Mark,

Did the guy at your kids' pool match the description, particularly the streaked hair, of the guy at the school?

Such a tragedy.

I heard on the radio this morning, a report of a black male with the same description came into a salon to get a hair dye. Retard. He'll get what's coming to him, and then some.

Nope, he had short hair, almost shaved - My daughter after we showed her the discription of the man from edmonton stated that he also had 2 kids with him, so maybe it was just a nice guy and not a sicko, but still scared the shit out of my wife and me

Its just there are scary things that happen in our world now, and being a parent, you try not to take those chances! then again look what just happened right in a school, thats just plain scary. I personaly wouldn't blame the school, but what do you do?

Scott,

I hope you heard that radio thing correctly. Haven't been hooked into tv or radio all day. If it's true, everyone in Edmonton will sure feel safer for their kids. But then, there's always gonna be more of those monsters out there :sad: Like Mark said, you just can't take chances with your children :neutral:

Watched the news last night and read the paper today. The guy has not been caught yet :bad-word:

All he'd have to do is shave his head or wear a hat of some sort to disguise his streaked hair. He may have even streaked his hair just prior to his crime, then shaved his head or dyed his own hair back to normal so people who know him might not have seen the streaked hair which is his most distinguishing feature.

This guy is smart. He must watched the school for some time to know how and when to get in. He may be miles away from here by now, or he may be scoping out some other facility where there are children :2gunfire:

alright, the comment was said in haste, so mark i do apologize for the insinuation in my comment...

i said it because it seems that everytime something like this happens, it immediately flies up that every black male "could be" the perp. Take a look at the description of the guy again... with his head shaved, he's about average... my point was moreso that as much as we feel sorry for the little girl for her terrifying experience. we should feel sorry for the scores of black men with short hair that fit the description.

As much as we all would like to think, our police force is full of racist police officers, as much as it is full of good ones. Of course, if you are white, you would never even know.

would the same thing be happening if the perp was not black? or maybe if the little girl was black? or of native heritage?

this happens over and over in our society, nothing gets done until a white person disappears or gets hurt. (like out on the Highway of Tears in BC)(Native women have been going missing on that highway for two decades, and then all of a sudden a white tree planter woman goes missing...and all of a sudden RCMP are all over it.)

i think the relevance of anyone's skin color doesn't need to be mentioned, and if indeed people's skin color is irrelevant, then why mention it? if it makes no difference of what color of person approaches your kids, and he doesn't fit the description,why say?

I think that if we really want race to not be such an issue... we should start treating it like what it really is.... NOT REAL.

Next time you go to point out someone, or describe someone... See if you can do it without mentioning race, skin color or ethnicity... Its harder than you think. We treat race like a description, like fat or thin, short or tall, despite the fact that the negative consequences for all of us go far beyond that.

I don't mean any of these statements as inflammatory, but just think them over, whether you agree or disagree... its all worth a thought right?

(p.s. I attended Oliver school for junior high, and honestly, this guy would just have had to enter any door except the front door, and there is a secluded washroom in a long hallway, or thru the back door and there is one right beside the empty gymnasium. Scoping out the school would really not be all that necessary.)

I am glad they are getting kids to go in pairs now... they should have been doing that all along...these bathrooms are so secluded away from anything...no one would hear if you shouted for help if you slipped and hurt yourself.

If the shoe fits..................
If the description was that of a slim white guy with tattoos I wouldn't be supprised when stopped and questioned. I would be a victim of chance and would not even dream of saying that it was because of anything other than that.

Exactly! So why then would it not prudent to look at the "average" person (That fits the description.) as someone of intrest? Anything else would be irresponsible IMO.

I'm sure you won't find anyone who doesn't feel for the little girl and her family, but I myself don't feel sorry for anyone else who might fit the description. The description is what it is and that's all. Anyone that wants to turn this into something other than an investigation to find a pedo (White, brown, yellow or black.) should maybe re-evalluate things.

:rolleyes: What you mean by "racist police officers"? Do you have something to support this? If not, I would suggest that you don't make a statement like this unless you have enough valid material to support this. (Opinions of people you know do not count as valid material.)

Did you even take the time to read up on all the particulars on this case!?! The "white tree planter woman" was indeed not the first victim, but was the only victim who's family kept up a constant search. They had countless family, freinds and vollunteers searching and kept pressure on the media and the law enforcement community to help them with their search. This alone was the reason for her dissapearance to be more in the spotlight. To make some kind of claim that law enforcement concidered her life more of a loss than the others is just specullation and has little substance.


Like it or not our skin colour is likely our most distinctive feature. So why then would it not be of importance to describe me as "A pasty white guy that should get more sun."?

I too mean no harm with what I've posted in this thread, but do find that more often than not people are very quick to hop on the "racisim" band wagon to try and not trample on someone elses feelings. After all, it's not like Rodny King got beat up on the streets of Edmonton last week.

FWIW, I'm not a big fan of police officers in general. I myself have had the lions share of dealings with them in my younger years and have little or no respect for many of them. That being said, anyone with nothing to hide has very little to worry about when dealing with them.