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Gizmo 06-19-2005 12:37 AM

Yellow Tango insano
 
I dont know what happened, but my yellow tang is flipping out attacking everyone in the tank. He's scratched the hell out of the foxface, the clowns hold their own, and everyone else ran for the hills and is hiding. Any reason this sort of behavior should occur? The foxface and tang have been co existing for about a month now, added within a week of each other. I'm at a loss. :mad:

Beverly 06-19-2005 01:01 AM

How big is the tank and how big are the fish? Are they being fed enough? Is there a lot of competition during feeding?

Gizmo 06-19-2005 06:18 AM

He's in a 70. I feed them a good chunk of seeweed once or twice a day. They still fight, then go to their own sides of the tank...

StirCrazy 06-19-2005 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo
He's in a 70. I feed them a good chunk of seeweed once or twice a day. They still fight, then go to their own sides of the tank...

I had a foxface and a yellow in a 90 and I wouldn't do it again, they were constantly on each others nerves but I also had a tone of rock for hiding so no major fights erupted, now add your clowns to this and you have enuf to drive any self respecting tang insain. I think you need to either get rid of the foxface or the tang personaly.

Steve

Gizmo 06-20-2005 12:40 AM

I've moved him in with my breeding clowns temporarily, where he seems to be keeping to himself. If I let him stay there for a few days and move him back to the other tank, will he recognize the tank as his territory still?

StirCrazy 06-20-2005 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo
I've moved him in with my breeding clowns temporarily, where he seems to be keeping to himself. If I let him stay there for a few days and move him back to the other tank, will he recognize the tank as his territory still?

If he doesn't he soon will again.

Steve

Gizmo 06-20-2005 03:35 AM

Stupid Tang.

I can't empisize how pee'd off I am. I talked so SOoO many people about my fish want list. I had both on there and EVERYONE I talked to said they would be fine togeather. AI staff, here, other fish boards .. And now I have to get rid of a fish. :rolleyes: Don't mean to lose it but I fought with this problem all day and ended up buggering up other things like my lighting canopy. .. nother story...

trilinearmipmap 06-20-2005 03:41 AM

As I understand it, recommendations about fish are general ideas with a lot of variation from one individual fish to another. For example Yellow Tangs are supposed to be a little aggressive and territorial, and not tolerate other similar fish (Purple Tangs, other Yellow Tangs, etc.) However there will be exceptions to every rule. I would use people's recommendations as a baseline to start with, recognizing that every fish is different. My YT is a bit aggressive toward my Hippo Tang and Copperband, but nothing extreme.

With FW fish (I used to breed Angels) I found a definite relation between temperature and aggression. By lowering the temperature 2 or 3 degrees, the aggression level went way down. Just an idea, might work, might not.

Johnny Reefer 06-20-2005 04:45 AM

My Yellow Tang and Powder Blue Surgeon are best of buddys. They were purchased at the same time, quarantined together and introduced into the show tank at the same time. The Powder Blue is a bit larger and the Yellow is pretty much its shadow. Follows the Powder Blue all over, most of the time. It's cool.
Not sayin' Yellow Tangs aren't aggressive. Just, in my case, my Yellow isn't. Mind you, it's a 135g tank with only those two fish, 5 Green Chromis and 2 False Perculas. Maybe that's why. (Tank's 4 months old. More fish to come).
:smile:

Gizmo 06-20-2005 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap
I found a definite relation between temperature and aggression. By lowering the temperature 2 or 3 degrees, the aggression level went way down. Just an idea, might work, might not.

I am going to give that a try. My temp has been high at 85degrees, I installed a radiator today to bring down the temp, but it will be the night before it is cooler, I did notice that when I added him to my other tank where the temp is a stable 80, he is very calm.

mark 06-20-2005 02:44 PM

Gizmo, what are you using for a radiator?

Gizmo 06-20-2005 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mark
Gizmo, what are you using for a radiator?

I'm using the Black Ice Xtreme with a 120mm 12v fan attached using an eheim pump to circulate out and in to the sump.

www.hwlabs.com/products/blackicextreme.html

Usually for computer mod's

Johnny Reefer 06-21-2005 04:11 AM

The description of that radiator your using says it's got copper in it.
You sure that's gonna work okay and not kill your fish? :confused:

Gizmo 06-21-2005 02:05 PM

:eek:

Gizmo 06-21-2005 02:12 PM

Hey how about that, I'm a freakin idiot. Sould have read the specs better.

I managed to kill off all of my inverts.

How do you go about testing or removing copper from a system. :mad:

Johnny Reefer 06-21-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo
How do you go about testing or removing copper from a system.

For testing, there are simple test kits available. I have a Salifert. Forget how much I paid for it. Salifert kits are pricey, but you get what you pay for. They are the best, IMHO.

As for getting rid of copper...I maybe wrong but it is my understanding that once it's there, it's there and you can't get rid of it.
When I converted one of my 135g tanks from fresh to salt, 4 months ago, I was cautioned by my LFS to make sure that I did not use any equipment that might have been exposed to any copper medications in the past because, if that were the case, there would be a certain amount of copper left behind in the equipment and that equipment could not and should not be used on a marine system.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I think you might have to start from square one again.

I'm not 100% sure on this, however, and maybe someone else has a different opinion on this.

Anyway, good luck.

danny zubot 06-21-2005 02:53 PM

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I would check your levels first, then do a 10% water change and test again. Do this a couple of times and you will find out where you stand with the copper situation.

Johnny Reefer 06-21-2005 03:22 PM

A post has recently been made in "Product Reviews" (coincidence?) regarding a copper removing product. (Cuprisorb). Maybe this would help your situation.


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