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Jack 06-14-2005 06:30 AM

Eductors
 
Anyone out there using them?

rusty 06-14-2005 12:13 PM

Yep I am using one. I am amazed by the amount of flow that it creates. I have it on my return with a mag18 and if close the valve to the other return nozzle and only run the eductor my tank goes crazy.

Jack 06-14-2005 05:24 PM

Very cool. Where did you get it?

Chad 06-14-2005 08:07 PM

yes, please tell, I want to try this as well

mr_alberta 06-14-2005 08:58 PM

I got mine from Aquatic Eco Systems (and sold it to Rusty):

http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/.../9846/cid/2953

If you don't like the size of the eductor, you can pick up a penductor from MyReefCreations down in the US:

http://www.myreefcreations.com/penductor.htm

Chad 06-14-2005 09:20 PM

If anyone wants to do a group buy I am in..

These guys have free shipping for 4 or more.

http://www.kthsales.com/website/vend...g_eductors.htm

Gujustud 06-14-2005 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad
If anyone wants to do a group buy I am in..

These guys have free shipping for 4 or more.

http://www.kthsales.com/website/vend...g_eductors.htm

Put me down for one.

Skimmerking 06-15-2005 12:23 AM

Call Jayson at www.saltwaterconnection.com
He has them really cheap too.

mike

BCOrchidGuy 06-15-2005 06:41 AM

I made one about a year ago, I went to Norburn Hobbies over on Broadway at Holdom and bought a plastic spinner for a radio controlled airplane (spinner is the center cone shaped thing on the propeller) I used square plastic and then a short length of PVC that fit over the power head and it worked remarkably well. No pics though sorry. Total cost of it was well undre $10. Figure out what power head you are going to use it on, find PVC to fit over the out put and then find a spinner that will fit the out side of the PVC. Some spinners are perfectly cone shaped, the one I used had two screw holes that I used to attatch the square plastic to hold the spinner in place.

Doug

DiscusZ 06-20-2005 05:12 AM

Anyone have any video with these things active?


Jim

Buccaneer 06-27-2005 02:00 AM

I had 4 of them on my old 330G tank ( got them from KTH sales ) ... had them on 2 closed loops with mag 18's ... I now have a temp 270G setup with 1 on a mak 4 return and because the mak 4 is pressure rated it produces more flow than the mag 18's. Well worth the investment IMO especially for large tanks as you can produce 4 to 5 times the flow from a single pressure rated pump and cut down your eletricity costs :cool:

Invigor 06-27-2005 08:04 PM

so perhaps I want to use one on a dolphin ampmaster 3000 pump which aren't known for their high pressure ability.. I'm sure it would still increase the flow, but not as much as a high head pump

how do I go about finding the pressure at the end of my return line?

Jack 06-28-2005 04:19 AM

It really wouldn't be worth it on an Ampmaster. If i remember correctly they need around a good psi to work like they are supposed to.

Invigor 06-29-2005 01:12 AM

har har, It just occured to me that this penducter principle is why tunze turbelle streams are so high flow and well distributed...

It came to me after seeing this image:
http://invigor.sasktelwebsite.net/diytunze.JPG

which is how a 15w pump can do 1800gph. ahhhhh physics. without the stream's educter end on it, it would only be doing about 400gph. go figure.

time to play with some pvc and physics.

outtafocus 12-19-2005 03:15 AM

What is the result of the experiments? Were you able to DIY a eductor?
I thought I would dig up an old thread.

StirCrazy 12-19-2005 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invigor
har har, It just occured to me that this penducter principle is why tunze turbelle streams are so high flow and well distributed...

It came to me after seeing this image:
http://invigor.sasktelwebsite.net/diytunze.JPG

which is how a 15w pump can do 1800gph. ahhhhh physics. without the stream's educter end on it, it would only be doing about 400gph. go figure.

time to play with some pvc and physics.

Um.. a Stream isn't an eductor at all, totally different set up it is a propeller instead of an impeller. a eductor uses water movement to create more water movement in a siphon type idea.

Steve

KrazyKuch 12-19-2005 04:42 PM

Here is a pic of a DIY Educator followed by the link on how to make it!!!


http://www.canreef.com/photopost/dat...07Educator.jpg

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/dat...1407weduct.jpg


http://themantledmonster.thereeftank.com/ediy.html

outtafocus 12-19-2005 10:20 PM

Thank you for the links. I will have to give one a try.
It appears to get good flow out of an eductor you need a pretty beefy pump.
I will be trying this on a mag7, I doubt it will be much good. But I plan on adding a closed loop to my system one day, which this eductor may come in handy for.

Salinity Now 12-20-2005 03:42 AM

"Anyone have any video with these things active?"

Jim, here is a link from RC that shows them in action.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...s&pagenumber=1

saltynuts 12-20-2005 03:28 PM

enductors
 
i think i will have too build some for thhe new tank!
i,ll let you know how they work!

saltynuts 01-30-2006 12:01 AM

enductors
 
wow! wow! wow! i have two of them on my tank now with a mag 18.
and all i can say is wow! lots of flow now thanks kevin

KrazyKuch 01-30-2006 09:56 PM

I'm gonna have to come over their and take a look!!!!


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