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Griffin 04-02-2005 06:17 PM

Auto top-up help
 
I bought a kent float auto top up to use with my ro/di water except the pressure is pushing past the seal or the seal is no good (think the pressure though with the extra storage tank but no pump) so when i get home the sump is way past the shut off point = Does someone else sell or can i make a top off that will work the way i have it set up ie: water from ro/di system straight to the float. Or even a fix for the kent float. I do not have an area for a spare tank just for top up - I would even go for one of the auto top ups that are made to turn on a pump but instead open a gate valve - if someone knows of a electric gate valve that is salt safe.
Thanks for the look and info if you can share

Cheers
Rich

bear27 04-02-2005 10:34 PM

I do belive this will help you out
http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/s..._ID=ro-kpfshut

Griffin 04-02-2005 11:10 PM

excellent - thank you i will check it out

Cheers
Rich

Tom R 04-05-2005 02:37 AM

I have been using the Kent auto shutoff system with a Kent float valve for the last 2 years and they have worked great. I use a 45G food grade barrel to store the RO/DI water. I then use a Kent float valve in my sump to keep my sump at the same level all the time.

Tom R

chwkreefer 04-05-2005 07:10 AM

Would the Kent float valve and solenoid work in my case?

My RO/DI unit is in my laundry room above my sink. Could I install the solenoid and then run the line to my ceiling and run it along the trusses and back down into my closet beside my fish tank where my water reservoir is?

My reservoir is feeding my sump via a kent float valve, but as it sits now I have to constantly refill the reservoir. I would really like to automate the refilling process. I was planning on running a water line in between the floor joists when we were building the place, but then I changed my mind.

Does anyone see a problem with the idea of running the line through the attic as mentioned earlier?

Is there enough pressure to push it another 4' up into the ceiling and another 18' feet horizontally to the closet?

G1GY 04-05-2005 08:24 AM

You can run it waaaaay further than your talking about as long as it's only tube. I ran mine from the laundry room all the way across the house and up one levell. I also left an extra 20' of tubing coiled up in the crawl space so I could just pull the faucet all around that room and it works great. :smile:

BTW, I have the Aquasafe home plus unit.

Nemo 04-05-2005 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chwkreefer
Does anyone see a problem with the idea of running the line through the attic as mentioned earlier?

Is there enough pressure to push it another 4' up into the ceiling and another 18' feet horizontally to the closet?

2 problems that I see running it through the attic IMO

1. In summer attics get very hot unless vented well, small lines with water sitting will allow the water to heat up.

2. In winter you run the chance (very good one at that) of freezing and splitting the line.

Robert

chwkreefer 04-05-2005 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G1GY
You can run it waaaaay further than your talking about as long as it's only tube. I ran mine from the laundry room all the way across the house and up one levell. I also left an extra 20' of tubing coiled up in the crawl space so I could just pull the faucet all around that room and it works great. :smile:

BTW, I have the Aquasafe home plus unit.

Thanks Gary, I too have the Aquasafe home plus unit. Did you hook up a pressure solenoid to it?

Bill

chwkreefer 04-05-2005 03:05 PM

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Nemo,
The temperature is something that I've thought about too. My plan was to first see if there is enough pressure to actually run the line.

Secondly to deal with the temperatures effecting the water line. The obvious thing is to insulate the line. But I'll talk to a plumber about what I can do prevent line freezing. There are options available to attach to the line to prevent freezing.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemo
Quote:

Originally Posted by chwkreefer
Does anyone see a problem with the idea of running the line through the attic as mentioned earlier?

Is there enough pressure to push it another 4' up into the ceiling and another 18' feet horizontally to the closet?

2 problems that I see running it through the attic IMO

1. In summer attics get very hot unless vented well, small lines with water sitting will allow the water to heat up.

2. In winter you run the chance (very good one at that) of freezing and splitting the line.

Robert


fishface 04-05-2005 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom R
I have been using the Kent auto shutoff system with a Kent float valve for the last 2 years and they have worked great.
Tom R

does anyone know if you can mount this float valve without drilling your tank? i was hoping to set up a gravity fed auto top off for when i go on vacation and to use this (nothing permanent) but DONT want to drill. if not...any other ideas?? :rolleyes:

Delphinus 04-05-2005 05:07 PM

Sure, glue a baffle in there, or a 3" diameter pipe sitting on a flange, .. you're limited by your creativity more so than anything else. That said, I find it's way easier just to pop a hole in at the height you want, and be done with it. But, that assumes you have access to a glass drill bit or perhaps an acrylic sump.

fishface 04-05-2005 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus
Sure, glue a baffle in there, or a 3" diameter pipe sitting on a flange, .. you're limited by your creativity more so than anything else.

hmmm, indeed you are correct sir! gonna have to get creative...thanks for the idea!

G1GY 04-05-2005 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chwkreefer
Thanks Gary, I too have the Aquasafe home plus unit. Did you hook up a pressure solenoid to it?

Bill

I don't have a solinoid valve on it right now, but I've used them lot's at a car wash(Not for pressure, but for chemical additives pumped by small pumps.) I used to own and found that there's not much pressure needed for them to function properly. Also I don't think there's any significant loss in pressure by running the tube over the kind of distance your talking about.

:smile:

Griffin 04-06-2005 03:55 PM

I found that it was my kent top up valve leaking where they fused the two sides together - i picked up a float valve at canadian tire for a dehumidifier (10bucks) put it in and no level problems. It runs straight off my ro/di unit in the kitchen (25ft away and splits to the fridge for ice) I am going to start working on a topup container only cause i know having a unlimited water supply to the tank is playing with fire if something sticks. Thanks for all the info..

Cheers
Rich

fishface 04-06-2005 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin
float valve at canadian tire for a dehumidifier (10bucks)Cheers Rich

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