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Ryan 03-19-2005 04:12 PM

Raising Pheasants
 
Well Seeing my buddy and I are big time hunters we dont like to sit and wait for seasons to come around. We are tired of shooting traps so we have beat the system and want to start to raise Ringneck Pheasants. Once we get a land permit we can legaly hunt them anytime we want hen or rooster. So I was wondering if anybody here has raised them and can give me some tips.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 03-19-2005 04:20 PM

Excuse me, but I think this is the wrong forum to ask about info to get animals to KILL FOR PLEASURE. :snipersm: :confused:

snaggle 03-19-2005 04:23 PM

I dont know about rasing birds. but as long as you are hunting them for food and not just fn I donot see a problem with it.


as for breeding you could try seting up in the same way as a chicken farm.

Brad

G1GY 03-20-2005 12:42 AM

I'd love to answer this question for you, but I'm just getting my fishing gear ready to go into the family room and catch some dinner in the reef! :razz: (Same deal isn't it?)

albert_dao 03-20-2005 07:48 AM

My dog's lookin' mighty tasty tonight.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 03-20-2005 08:11 AM

Come on over for stirfry seahorses & jawfish, yum yum. Now if I can only find my speargun..... :rolleyes:

Zerandise 03-20-2005 03:14 PM

you have fish and seahorse big enough to eat? nice!!! Wish my tank was that big!! wait a minute... dont they raise chickens for people to..... bah never mind it not the same. they are not as cute....

As an avid hunter of 25 year I understand where you are coming from. Tho i have hunted pheasant many time I dont know enough about raising them up to be of any help. I would think doing it like free range chicken would work.

P>S> this is most likely NOT the right board for this question. most likely wont get alot of positive resolts.

StirCrazy 03-20-2005 04:01 PM

Re: Raising Pheasants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan
Once we get a land permit we can legaly hunt them anytime we want hen or rooster. So I was wondering if anybody here has raised them and can give me some tips.

have you checked into the rules and regulations totally? I think you need to have a specific land use class and licenses and permits up the yingyang. a friend of mine used to do it and it was a very expensive proposition. Also when you get the land you have to get it so you are so far from any road, neighbors, ect.

Steve

Willow 03-21-2005 02:53 AM

dude its kinda like shooting fish in a barrel isnt it.

Xtasia 03-21-2005 03:05 AM

Growing your own vegetables and Fruits for Harvest... or keeping a cow for milk and meat? Growing Brine to feed to your fish?

He's not going to domesticate, hand feed or keep them for ornamental purposes... He's keeping them for the purpose of killing and eating them...

Don't h8.. Just answer if you can help.. Back if you don't :D

4ptbuck 03-21-2005 06:28 AM

I was wondering how this thread was going to turn out. My nick should give away my inclinations.

Ryan you might have a bit more luck at www.huntshoot.com

Seahorse, it's kinda funny you're all over this guy, yet who used to work at a fish farm?? Not much difference in my eyes.

btw seahorse does BioE mean anything to you??

4 pts...

SeaHorse_Fanatic 03-21-2005 06:42 AM

Yeah. Are you BioE too?

Ryan 03-21-2005 01:44 PM

Holy i didnt think i would get this response. Your right wrong forum. Also sorry i didnt make this clear. I am raising them then in august september realeasing them into variouse habitats where i hunt pheasants to reastock the population. This should give the birds enough time to checkout their surroundings. I am also raising them to train my dog not only for plain old hunting but for feild trials. Its not like i am going to take 5 out put them infront of a hay bail and shoot them i am going to let them go. Sorry for the confusion.

Stircrazy we know the permits we need now. WOnt be that bad cheaper than raising the birds. As a hunter i know my regualtions for how far i gotta be and what not. We have a feild given to us for these birds. Now all we gotta do is raise them.

Never knew you people were against reastocking wild populations.

Majestic_Aquariums 03-21-2005 02:13 PM

IMO there is nothing wrong with re-stocking wild game. Many operations out there raising ring-necked pheasants for release into the wild. But not onto their own property, for hunting purposes. I think it is a great idea to re-stock them, but for the right reasons. Could it be that they have seasons set up for a reason? I'm not a hunter, and some of you may dis-agree, but if it were up to me alone, I would make you at least have a perimeter fence around your property, to ensure that no more wild game birds can enter. If this is allowed, where does it stop? Let's start raising big-game, and what the hell! Lets offer this to Americans, to come on up here, pay us to hunt on our land?
Raise these birds, and release them. This alone will help re-plenish what you are shooting during the open season.
When your Discus get large enough, are you gonna have a pan-fry?

Aquattro 03-21-2005 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Never knew you people were against reastocking wild populations.

Um, I think restocking wild populations should be left to professional biologists. Are the birds you will release healthy? Have you done blood work on them? Will they have some disease that could wipe out the entire wild population? How do you know? Does the wild population NEED restocking? Do you have stats?
Really, if you do happen to raise some birds, please shoot them in front of the hay stack, and don't endanger the wild birds.

Willow 03-21-2005 02:16 PM

that scene from Thunderbolt and Lightfoot came to mind where the crazy drunk guy pulls the car over opens his trunk and starts blasting his shotgun at a trunk full of rabbits.

Ryan 03-21-2005 05:40 PM

Birds will be inspected before realease. How do i tell that they are mine. When you "plant" them you dizzy them and tuck their head under the birds wing. They wont move so when to dog points basicaly that scared the bird and flushes no different from if i were to hunt them during season. Apparently this board is full of non hunters so my replies on this are stopping before i **** a mod off.

I do have one question for you people though. Whats the difference between what i am doing and what a place like the canadian pheasant company in brooks is doing? Absoloutly nothing exept i am a smaller operation and i am not taking people out to hunt my birds.

Willow 03-21-2005 06:05 PM

i dunno dude you are talking for the most part to people who are trying to preserve life and your want to raise birds so you can shoot them! this isnt the right place for you, find a hunting board.

Aquattro 03-21-2005 06:37 PM

Ryan, while this is probably not the best choice of boards to post this on, my point only was relaeasing captive raised birds into wild populations. I'm just not sure it's all that simple. If it is, that's scary.

But ya, if there is a board out there, maybe cankill.com or something, it might be a better place to talk about killing. As a theme here, we're trying to preserve life, not end it. Although I'm sure we have lots of fisherpersons here....

anyway, good luck with your "project" .

rickjames 03-21-2005 06:53 PM

Just for the record, don't know if it matters or not, ring-necked pheasants were introduced to North America from Asia, so by releasing them into the wild you are not replenishing wild stocks, you are you just replenishing the wild numbers of an introduced species.

Also, Alberta is much more liberal with wildlife then B.C., for example, there are farm raised elk in Alberta, but they are illegal to farm in B.C., because they are a wild species here, and disease transfer is an issue.

powerboy 03-21-2005 08:00 PM

I have to agree that this site is probably not the best choice for the topic at hand. I am a hunter, have been for many years. I was taught to respect nature and all living things.

I find it interesting that people react so harshly to hunting, and all they say are things like, "how can you kill something?" and "arent you ashamed of the fact you murder for pleasure?" while these same people have no problem going to safeway and buying meat on nice little styrofoam trays, going home and savoring the flavor.

It is far more humane for a hunter to take a single animal with one bullet per year than the thousands of mutilated animals in slauhterhouses daily.
The conditions of these vile factories is disgusting. The pnumatic bolts driven into the heads of the animals kill far less that you would imagine. Chickens are treated even worse than cows. Beaks burnt off, stuck in little boxes so they cant move. Even wearing leather, or eating gummie bears or jello suports this activity. There are so many animal by-products in our daily lives I find it tough for people to use the "we preserve life" argument when we actually contribute to the slaughter knowingly or not.

On another note, yes you can say that reefers preserve life by trying to maintain species and further the quest to minimize impact of wild harvests. On the flip side to this, (as there is always one) how fair do you think it is to pluck these animals from the ocean (using cynanide) where their territory is vast and stick them into a tiny little glass box that more times than not, is far too overcrowded. As close as we may try to duplicate nature in our tanks, we never will.

All I'm doing here is playing devils advocate. There is always 2 sides, and sadly, most humans react with haste and think, for lack of a better term, that our poop doesnt stink.

Invigor 03-21-2005 08:32 PM

restock the wild population -- that's a good one! I figure if you want to grow phesants to eat, grow them in a barn and butcher them in the fall...releasing them to freelance around the earth seems a little dangerous...politically and animal healthwise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reef_raf
I think restocking wild populations should be left to professional biologists

sounds good to me

if you want to hunt, go shoot some magpies

Majestic_Aquariums 03-21-2005 10:28 PM

I am not opposed to people who hunt. I don't, but at the same time, it does have it's benefits-over-population for one. I do however have issues with anyone that wants to "beat the system" and hunt whatever, whenever. Sorry, Ryan, but I don't think it is too cool to raise a bird, basically domisticate it, (they do become fairly tame) Just to release it, shoot it, and call that a sport.
It has been along time since I was to Taber, but do recall seeing a Pheasant-raising operation locally when I was there. Why not run your Idea past them, maybe they can tell you what you want to know?

But as far as hunting goes, I have read your posts on the subject in the past, and didn't jump all over the idea of hunting itself. When I took my Hunter-training courses, one of the main things that we learned was Wildlife Management, and Preservation-this to me is neither.

Snappy 03-22-2005 12:14 AM

what powerboy said!

Quinn 03-22-2005 12:21 AM

When I was a kid I went through this odd stage when I was really hyped about learning to fish, so my dad stocked our pond with trout. As the hatchery guy was throwing the fish into the water, I was standing there with rod in hand, excitedly waiting for the first bite. In retrospect, it probably wouldn't have been as thrilling as the real thing.

Speaking of non-native species, a recent National Geographic issue covered this topic. Quite something - quite depressing.

For the record, my neighbour used to raise and release pheasants. He's long since moved away but a few are still running around my parents' place. Interesting to learn that they're not native at all.

StirCrazy 03-22-2005 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reef_raf
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Never knew you people were against reastocking wild populations.

Um, I think restocking wild populations should be left to professional biologists. Are the birds you will release healthy? Have you done blood work on them? Will they have some disease that could wipe out the entire wild population? How do you know? Does the wild population NEED restocking? Do you have stats?
Really, if you do happen to raise some birds, please shoot them in front of the hay stack, and don't endanger the wild birds.

there are all kinds of phesent farms in Alberta, and the majority are set up as ryan is describing, hatch, ween and let loose. I remember when I was a kid you would get the bejeasus scared out of you every 30 or 40 feet as they took to the air, now you hardly see them, but they are comming back. even though they are not a native they are common.

Steve

Ryan 03-22-2005 04:32 AM

i see them all the time at Sugar Factory lake but the small places where 8 guys walk in and take thier limits this is what i am trying to restock. This is no different than raising chikens or cows or most of you reefers raising brine for your fish and coral. But this thread is closed can a mod lock this thread so it doesnt go any farther

Majestic_Aquariums 03-22-2005 04:42 AM

hmmm.nevermind-a loosing battle

Aquattro 03-22-2005 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan
But this thread is closed can a mod lock this thread so it doesnt go any farther


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