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michika 02-07-2005 03:23 PM

falled pump suction cups and RTN?
 
My pump fell in my tank, and its path of flow somehow ended up directly on my Acropora. Its now pretty white on one side, which I'm assuming to be RTN.

How do I frag whats left of my favorite coral? HELP HELP HELP HELP!!!

This is not how I wanted to start out my Monday!

mr_alberta 02-07-2005 03:29 PM

If it is RTN, try to frag the remaining part of the coral about 0.5"-1" above the RTN'd tissue.

What could have happened is the pump ripped the flex off of the acro if it was blowing directly at it.

michika 02-07-2005 03:31 PM

I think thats what happened, is that still RTN though?


I've never fragged at thing in my life, how do I go about doing this?

Invigor 02-07-2005 03:33 PM

rtn??

mr_alberta 02-07-2005 03:33 PM

RTN as I know it, usually starts from the base up, but I'm sure it can start from anywhere really.

It probably isn't RTN, but it could start just from the stress of it all.

To frag it, take some pruning shears and cut like you are trimming plants back.

mr_alberta 02-07-2005 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invigor
rtn??

Rapid Tissue Necrosis (I think that's what it's called).

michika 02-07-2005 03:36 PM

The "whitness" is right at the base, but at the same time thats were the flow was going.

Woudl it be okay after I frag it to leave the white part in the tank? Just to see if it recovers?

bluetang 02-07-2005 03:38 PM

It is probably just colateral damage, from the high water force blowing the tissue right off the skeleton. Don't think it is RTN. just my 2 cents

michika 02-07-2005 03:44 PM

BlueTang, what would you suggest that I do? Frag!

bluetang 02-07-2005 03:50 PM

Hard to say. Maybe give it a day or two and see how the coral does. if it looks like it streesing out and loosing more tisue.. then frag frag frag. hopefully you will save some of it. Any pics of the damage?

bluetang 02-07-2005 03:51 PM

Edit.. sorry double post :rolleyes:

mr_alberta 02-07-2005 03:54 PM

Yes, I agree with BlueTang. Give it at least a few hours to see if more tissue starts flaking off. If it does, then frag like there's no tomorrow ('cause there really might not be for that coral).

michika 02-07-2005 03:58 PM

Pictures in a moment,

I don't remember it looking like this last night though, thats why I'm so worried

michika 02-07-2005 04:59 PM

Okay two pictures, sorry I'm no so swift with this computer yet and thus don't know how to resize, my apologies in advance! I played around with iPhoto, and I can't can't figure out how to work it.

<img src="http://www.karmathief.com/animalia/bluetip_acro_RTN_Feb%207_05.JPG" WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=200 ALT="Blue Tip Bali Acropora with RTN">

and

<img src="http://www.karmathief.com/animalia/bluetip_acro_rtn_Feb7_05_closeup.JPG WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=200 ALT="Blue Tip Bali Acropora with RTN (Close-up)">

Alright I can't figure out why it won't show, so help?

muck 02-07-2005 05:16 PM

http://www.muiscontrols.com/ryan/blu...tn_Feb7_05.JPG

and

http://www.muiscontrols.com/ryan/blu...05_closeup.JPG

muck 02-07-2005 05:17 PM

I resized them for you as they were HUGE!! :razz:

michika 02-07-2005 05:18 PM

I know, I miss photoshop, its this new iMac, I still haven't gotten the hang of resizing pictures or anything. Its brutal.

So Muck, do you think its RTN?

michika 02-07-2005 05:20 PM

The acro is probably one 1.5-2" high, so I guess I will be heading out for some tools later today.

It doesn't look like there has been any additional tissue loss since I first spotted this lovely Monday morning disaster. I'm going to give it until around 1pm then make a decision from there.

Any other opinions now that the images (properly size thanks to Muck) are up?

bluetang 02-07-2005 05:23 PM

Unfortunatly it does look like RTN :cry:
However, hold out and monitor it for a while. any more recesion, I'd say buck it a part.. :cry:

michika 02-07-2005 05:24 PM

I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and frag it ASAP before I have to go to work.

So once I frag it, snip it all apart what do I do with the good parts? Do I just glue them all down to rocks or what?

bluetang 02-07-2005 05:29 PM

IF you have any rubble rock, epoxy or glue a frag to each or if you are stuck for time. just place them in the sand untill you get home. Remember to frag just above the infected parts. Goodluck

michika 02-07-2005 05:35 PM

Alright, that makes sense.

What would I use to cut? Tin snips?

bluetang 02-07-2005 06:17 PM

I use wire cutters or just break them with my fingers..

mr_alberta 02-07-2005 07:01 PM

I would use pruning shears personally.

Also, the reason your pictures didn't show up is you are using HTML tags and not the build in Bulletin Board tags.

michika 02-07-2005 07:05 PM

Alright the deed is done. My once lovely Acro is now in 6 tiny peices. Now here is hoping that they survive! How do I convince my Acro Crab to move houses?

Harvey, just before I read your post someone pointed out to me that I forgot to close my tags! At least I know for next time.

G1GY 02-07-2005 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy
I would use pruning shears personally.

Most pruning shears are pretty big I've found. Wire cutters or side cutters seem to be what I see most people using.


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