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Delphinus 01-31-2005 08:30 PM

Tacky radio contest: person going into shark tank at Big Als
 
It appears the latest stunt for CJAY92's ridiculous contest is to place themselves in the shark tank when the shark is fed.

Bear in mind there are other animals in the tank as well.

What is your guy's opinion on this.

My initial reaction is one of disgust and disappointment. If nothing else, it seems extremely tacky.

Brodie, Rick, Tom, I can't believe you guys would stoop this low for a tacky publicity stunt. I'm very disappointed with you guys.

Delphinus 01-31-2005 08:40 PM

From www.cjay92.com

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Mission #3 - Dale Miskovich will be in a shark tank during shark feeding time tomorrow night at 7pm at Big Al's Aquarium Services on MacLeod Trail. He must remain in the tank until the feeding time is over.
With the pressures facing shark population in general, we don't need to perpetuate harmful stereotypes. Instead we need to promote respect, education, and conservation.

Making a cheap trick out of a ~24" shark hardly qualifies as such. What safeguards are in place to protect the shark from stress? What about the other inhabitants? Even with the safeguards in place to the animals, in the end this is nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt.

Willow 01-31-2005 08:42 PM

well if its like the tank here in richmond i wouldnt worry so much about the sharks as the monster bloody eel!

muck 01-31-2005 08:48 PM

Im dissapointed in Big Al's for agreeing to this... :evil:

Nemain 01-31-2005 08:50 PM

Sick. I can't say much for the radio station, maybe they just dont know any better, but Big Al's should have a little more respect for there sharks/fish.

Beverly 01-31-2005 08:56 PM

Missions One and Two are pretty tacky, IMHO, too. BA's is probably hoping the hype will bring more people into their store over the long term. Publicity is publicity is publicity. Remember, business ethics is an oxymoron :rolleyes:

Tarolisol 01-31-2005 09:55 PM

business ethics maybe an oxy moron but for a store that should try to promote against animal crualty this is sending the wrong message. I cant see the shark being to happy to have a full grown man trying to swim in his home while hes trying to eat. The stress something like this could cause is just not worth it.

christyf5 01-31-2005 09:57 PM

Ahh, maybe the shark will nip his leg and he'll sue :rolleyes:

or better yet, maybe he'll get Mycobacterium marinarum where the sun don't shine and still sue :razz:

Quinn 01-31-2005 10:11 PM

Absurd. I'm glad I've never shopped at Big Al's (and never will).

Coldwater 01-31-2005 10:56 PM

Thats sort of sad! Diving with a 2' shark is going to more likely kill the shark than the diver (maybe his breathing apparatus will fail?). Pepole will go diving and chuming with 10' blue sharks or Bull sharks and they dont get a radio anouncement. Thats going to be one of the first things I do when I learn to dive.

Matt

AJ_77 01-31-2005 11:40 PM

As long as he doesn't disturb that beautiful large Unicorn Tang. :eek: OK, and the shark and other fishes too.

wow... maybe they'll start selling dive trips? but let's hope for the best - when we were at the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago, the diver in their shark tank got bit on the hand, and bolted out of there... :mrgreen:

AndyL 01-31-2005 11:55 PM

Meh, I was trying to get through myself... If people wanna see a beached whale in a shark tank - so be it :mrgreen:

Just think of the reef tank you could have with 50,000$

Andy

Bob I 02-01-2005 01:23 AM

I would expect nothing more from an outfit like Big Al's. They have one good employee, but the rest are highly questionable. IMO :sad:

digitalsteve 02-01-2005 02:38 AM

what a jackass , i hope the shark decides it wants a different bait and goes full force for the worm!!!!

GO SHARK!!!

BlkWolfe 02-01-2005 02:56 AM

Boycotted BA's in edmonton for the inept staff...

Wont go back to BA's in Van after seeing their shark tank...

Never been to calgarys BA's and looks like i never will

Edit...i should point out im not extremely concerned about the shark, and some small balance of karma would be restored if the idiot doing the swimming gets hurt, more just against the general stupidity and boredom the creators of this must have.

magikof7 02-01-2005 03:13 AM

I went to BA's once and only once. Never ever again.
Their staff was questionable and they were selling these potentially beautiful LF Lutino Oscars that were dead, dying and absolutely covered in ick it was even all over the glass.The Oscars also looked starved. They were charging 15 dollars for them! When I said something within earshot of one of the sales ppl they misteriously disappeared and I was totally ignored, even when looking at other tanks (which some others were also infected with Ick)
I wasn't very impressed with their SW stock either.

digitalsteve 02-01-2005 03:19 AM

i noticed at the store in burnaby that they had a huge aiptasia issue in all of their tanks with corals in them. the staff wasnt bad but looked at you like you were nutz if you started talking about anything specific or asked specific questions. for such a large store , they really should have a staff member or 2 who knows what they are talking about.... and once again... .


GO SHARK.

Willow 02-01-2005 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalsteve
i noticed at the store in burnaby that they had a huge aiptasia issue in all of their tanks with corals in them. the staff wasnt bad but looked at you like you were nutz if you started talking about anything specific or asked specific questions. for such a large store , they really should have a staff member or 2 who knows what they are talking about.... and once again... .


GO SHARK.

i saw a sign in there last time i was there that said "fish room staff needed, no experience necessary"

digitalsteve 02-01-2005 03:54 AM

isnt that a comforting sign for a reefer to see

Cap'n 02-01-2005 04:17 AM

My money's on the eel.



Stupid stunt by a stupid station hosted by an apathetic aquarium.

AndyL 02-01-2005 04:26 AM

Personally my only worry in that tank is the lion... I haven't seen the big eel in that tank in forever - is it even still around?

Andy

Tarolisol 02-01-2005 07:35 AM

Lion ive never seen a lion in there. as far as i know the eel is still in there and BIG, thats what i would watch out for.

Bigals_brodie 02-02-2005 10:48 PM

After our CJ92 "Gerry Forbes Toughest Contest Ever" promotion, I’m happy to say, as I fully expected, the shark, eel, and everyone else in the shark tank are great.
Thanks to everyone who showed up and supported Big Al’s. I apologize if you were unable to get into the store just prior and during the shark feeding, the store was packed from the front to the back.
I’m disappointed in everyone who chose to jump on the “Bash Big Al’s” bandwagon regarding this promo. Maybe look deeper into the matter and ask questions before you start posting. It not like we just set up our shark tank yesterday and don’t know anything about their care.
A lot of planning, time and effort went into this promo, with the animal’s health being our number one priority.
Only one person, Tony, phoned me and voiced his concerns regarding this matter and I explained the safeguards in place to protect the animals in the tank, but you still posted your questions. Why?

Guys, We’re a business; we had a promo, that’s it.

Quinn 02-03-2005 01:33 AM

:rolleyes:

G1GY 02-03-2005 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigals_brodie
After our CJ92 "Gerry Forbes Toughest Contest Ever" promotion, I’m happy to say, as I fully expected, the shark, eel, and everyone else in the shark tank are great.
Thanks to everyone who showed up and supported Big Al’s. I apologize if you were unable to get into the store just prior and during the shark feeding, the store was packed from the front to the back.
I’m disappointed in everyone who chose to jump on the “Bash Big Al’s” bandwagon regarding this promo. Maybe look deeper into the matter and ask questions before you start posting. It not like we just set up our shark tank yesterday and don’t know anything about their care.
A lot of planning, time and effort went into this promo, with the animal’s health being our number one priority.
Only one person, Tony, phoned me and voiced his concerns regarding this matter and I explained the safeguards in place to protect the animals in the tank, but you still posted your questions. Why?

Guys, We’re a business; we had a promo, that’s it.

The only reason this event happened was just explained to everyone in your post.
Quote:

Thanks to everyone who showed up and supported Big Al’s. I apologize if you were unable to get into the store just prior and during the shark feeding, the store was packed from the front to the back.
But truth be told, most people where not there to support BA's at all! In fact they where there to witness a sensational contest gimmick. Nothing more and nothing less. :razz:

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I’m disappointed in everyone who chose to jump on the “Bash Big Al’s” bandwagon regarding this promo. Maybe look deeper into the matter and ask questions before you start posting.
Did you think of posting in this thread before the much publicised event?
After all if you felt that there was so much BA's bashing going on, it might have been more appropriate to try and calm people before rather than post defencively after. (Just my opinion though.)

Quote:

Only one person, Tony, phoned me and voiced his concerns regarding this matter and I explained the safeguards in place to protect the animals in the tank, but you still posted your questions. Why?
Did Tony or yourself post in this thread what transpired in your conversation? I don't see it! :rolleyes:
So asking why people still posted their questions makes no sense at all. (I think most people here are not mind readers!)

I don't care one way or the other what you people at BA's do with your fish and hope your promo(Gimmick) pays off for you.
Maybe you have attracted enough new buisness to justify the loss of old buisness that you could perhaps face.

I really had no opinion on the subject untill your "We're a victim of bashing" post.

Just like with with any other odd ball contest or promo there is always a chance that others will not be in agreement with you, BA's must have looked at things from all angles and decided that this was something they wanted to do. (Kudo's to you for that.)

You people made a buisness descision that you felt was right for your organization and went with it.

Now you have to accept that some people might not see eye to eye with you and deal with it.

Trying to come across as the victim of some kind of internet bashing might only further alienate those who have supported your buisness in the past.

(Feel free to pick on all the typo's in this rapidly punched out post if you wish.)

*EDIT*

No need to wory about me taking my buisness elsewhere...... I done that long before this contest ever even existed! :biggrin:


Cheers

AJ_77 02-03-2005 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigals_brodie
I’m disappointed in everyone who chose to jump on the “Bash Big Al’s” bandwagon regarding this promo.

Really?? Everyone??? :confused:

Get real.

Scavenger 02-03-2005 02:38 AM

No matter how you cut it, I see undo stress induced on the livestock we are supposed to treasure. A stunt like this in my opinion, may be beneficial for the said store. But, now who did you entice to buy your product? I'm quite sure it's not anyone who has the knowledge to keep the said livestock healthy and happy. Only to encourage someone to buy a marine organism that they may keep alive for a day or two. Sorry, I don't buy the "business promotion" aspect. In fact I choose not to buy at all.

christyf5 02-03-2005 02:56 AM

Did the shark/moray bite him?? :razz:

Bob I 02-03-2005 02:58 AM

I have always felt that the whole "shark feeding" thing was just a trashy gimmick. I, therefore have very little to do with BA's. Putting a radio guy into the tank made it even more trashy. My own feeling has always been that BA's cares very little about their livestock. This trashy event has done nothing but reinforce that feeling. :mad:

Willow 02-03-2005 03:15 AM

lets egg the place.. whos with me :drinking:

sumpfinfishe 02-03-2005 04:02 AM

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We’re a business; we had a promo, that’s it.
I can think of better more humane ways to hold a promo,
maybe having 10yr old kids bobbing for Nemo's would have been better :exclaim:

I'm not bashing the store, just the manager.
Grant here in Vanc put on a great promo last summer, and even though attendance wasn't huge, it sure gave me a positive outlook on his store.

G1GY 02-03-2005 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5
Did the shark/moray bite him?? :razz:

It sure did! :lol: (The blind eel.)

The guy works at the same company as me and I just read an inter-office memo from his supervisor.
:biggrin:

Delphinus 02-03-2005 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls_Brodie
Only one person, Tony, phoned me and voiced his concerns regarding this matter and I explained the safeguards in place to protect the animals in the tank, but you still posted your questions. Why?

Brodie

Edit: I had a large post here explaining my objections to the presentation of this promotion.

I have removed it. If you would like to discuss this matter privately with me, we can, but I think we can agree to disagree.

My views are my own. I have been a loyal customer of Big Al's since the Calgary franchise was opened, I have defended Big Al's in the past. I may continue to defend Big Al's in the future but basically on this promotion of this week, I'm afraid I have a difference of opinion with you on this one.

Cap'n 02-03-2005 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CptCleverer
My money's on the eel.


Guess I should have placed a bet with Brodie, but then, I have never had a hungry eel recovering from a week-long fast in my tank, so would not have as much experience in judging the reaction to having a human in such close proximity to its food source at feeding time. Brodie probably would have reminded me of how long he has been caring for eels, sharks and such and passed me off as an amateur. And then offer to sell me a shark egg.

G1GY 02-03-2005 05:27 AM

Very well put Tony.

There is a differance between ethical and unethical companies.



Brodie,
Would you lose any respect for the Calgary zoo if they done a promo of the same type to bring attendance up?

Delphinus 02-03-2005 06:48 AM

I'm sorry but I think I better close this thread now. The event is over and done with, let's move on.


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