Livestock Group Order **CLOSED**
 

Alright, some people are getting confused with the other group order thread (you know who you are :mrgreen: ), so I'll split the two apart. This thread will deal only with the livestock order.

Here is the list thus far, if you want to be on that list, PM me with your order (less confusion and clutter in the thread that way). Also, please specify what type of snails or crabs you'd like and not just the general term "snails":

http://members.shaw.ca/harvwong/AI%20group%20order.txt

If the table doesn't line up properly, please change the font to "courier" and you should be good to go. :mrgreen: Also to ensure you are looking at the most current copy of the list (and not some version that is in your cache), please hit "refresh" a couple of times on your browser.

Currently I am waiting to hear back from 2 people locally for pricing. If those are a no go, then we will look to JL, AquariaCanada, etc.

We also need to set a firm end date (pre or post Christmas) for this order, so if you have a preference, please chime in. Majority rules on this one. Post Christmas would mean 1st or 2nd week of January.

Doesn't matter to me whether it's pre or post Christmas. Will go along with the majority.

Post Christmas please :razz:

-Richer

Post Christmas for me too.I would also like to drop the 20 blue leg hermits from my order and add 10 more cerrith and nausarius snails each for a total of 30 of each snail.

hey Harv

sent you a pm

this for critters only, or can we sneek a fish or two in?

Please vote in the delivery/end date poll.

Voted 'post'. :biggrin:

That does mean after right? :confused:

Don't matter to me I'm open :cool:



Big Thanks to Harvey for all the leg work he is doing :smilecol:

Don't just thank me, special thanks also to muck, Nemain and Tsunami for some behind the scenes work.

Yes, post means after :mrgreen: .

If the order ends up coming from J&L I wouldn't mind also adding on a fish or two.

I need my christmas money so post would be best for me.

We probably could get fish in on the order, but I doubt we will get a discount on them...

Well, if we MO the livestock, at least some of the shipping is saved :razz:

-Richer

Yeah, for fish orders, I doubt you'll get any sort of discount since you aren't ordering a large amount of fish. However, you will most likely save on shipping (assuming it is MO).

So far, I've only heard back from Ivan at Aquaria Canada and his prices easily compete with J&L's prices. I'm still waiting to hear back from JL's to see if we can get any more of a discount with such a large order, as well as a couple of places locally.

I know this planning has been going on for a while, but I've just decided that I may want to get in one it. I'd like to get a cleaning crew together. After christmas is good for me, but how much after would the orders be in? So is there still time for me to place an order, or am I too late?

Jess

I know this planning has been going on for a while, but I've just decided that I may want to get in one it. I'd like to get a cleaning crew together. After christmas is good for me, but how much after would the orders be in? So is there still time for me to place an order, or am I too late?

Jess

Your not too late. The order will be placed beginning of January most likely.
Post what your looking for and Harvey will add it to the list. :biggrin:

Any updates from the retailers? Anyone other than aquaria.ca reply yet?

-Richer

Unfortunately no. Please be patient though as muck and I are doing our best to find a reputable and cheap supplier.

No worries, take your time. I was just wondering how things were progressing. I appreciate everything that you two are doing :razz:

-Richer

I have been away for a while and it looks like you two have been busy. Put me down for a few snails. Quantity will depend on the price, but say about $30 worth.

I'll pm you a price list when we figure out where the order will come from. Then you can decide exactly what you'd like. Thanks.

Do you know where the livestock will be coming from? J&L? AI? I've been looking at some things from J&L that I'm interested in. I want a cleaner shrimp, blue leg hermit crabs, arrow crab, margarita snails, and nassarius snails. I'm not sure about quantity yet though, so I'll gt back to you on that.

Though we haven't decided yet, we might go with Aquaria Canada as they have some pretty good prices and Ivan over there has been very helpful and fast in his email responses. Also, I have heard very good things about his products and service.

I know some reefers out there were interested in getting fish, so if you want to order one with this group order, please let me know what you want so I can start a list going for that as well. The earlier we set a closing date on the order, the more time it will give our supplier (whomever it may be) to find any "hard to find" items.

Once again, thank you all for your participation and patience.

How will things be shipping? Will it be like JL and we'll have to pick up at the intn'l airport?

Is there a list of what ships well and doesn't as far as livestock goes?

once all the details are sorted out they will be posted here... :cool:

If the weather stays cold, I think Air Canada would be the best way. Then one of us locals can go pick it up and divide it out.

I would like to set the end date for this group order to be Wednesday, January 5, 2005, NOON so please get your orders into me by then. We will most likely be going with Ivan at Aquaria Canada. He has a very good reputation and has been one of the few to respond to emails promptly.

If you would like to order fish, please pm me with the type that you want (scientific names would greatly reduce confusion as well).

Thanks for all the work you guys have been putting into this group order. Are we going to get to know the prices before you finalize the order? I think knowing the price will make it easier for some of us to give you a final number.

-Rich

I would not order any livestock from jl
 

I was in vancouver the past weenkend and thought that myself and my buddy would stop in at jl aquatics. we went there expecting a hole of great things. but to our surprise the store was smaller than AI. as we continued to look around we were not happy with the livestock. every tank had ick, velvet or some sort of sick fish, even dead fish. not very impressed. i do not think they quarratine their animals there. we phone in approx. 4 days before we got there to hold 2 rbta for us. Allan said that would not be a problem. when we got there not a thing was on hold for us. they had 4 rbta 2 of them were barley hanging in there because they were in with a green carpet , that was stinging the hell out of them. the other 2 rbta were in the tank above. one look good and the other was above average. well i wanted the the nice looking one but they told me no because it was on hold for someone. i told them that someone was me. then told me they had no record of this. at this time i was getting very ****ed off with this and there customer service was poor. after fighting with them for awhile i said bag the other one up but i expect and discount for all the problems. and you can guess what they said. my buddy who has shop online with before said that they were great. he was singing a differnt tune when we left there. yes they have cheap dry goods and cleaning crews. that is the only thing that i would buy off them. but there livestock is a ticking time bomb if you buy from them. if they even make the fight. i also feel the staff is there just for a job. i did not find them very knowledgable. Big Als in burnaby is a joke to. AI may be a little over priced but they have quality and staff that knows what the hell is going on. as far as i am concerned you pay for quality.

Nice language :mad: , and does this kind of rant really belong here :question: I hope a mod takes care of this.

I've actually invitied Ivan to come over and post in this thread....maybe when he gives me some concrete prices, I can post them.

Motox has a point though, I think the point is just that at this time he saw no quality in the livestock and while his wording was to the point I think he does have a valid reason for posting in this thread.

He's just trying to let us know about what he saw this weekend and how it might affect our potential upcoming order from JL. Although it does also belong in Vendor rating, it still is a valid point of reference for this thread.

Hi everyone,

Sorry about the wait. Muck should be posting some prices that Ivan at Aquaria Canada sent him in the next day or two. Also, for fish, since some are hard to track down, I was wondering if those interested in getting some can PM me with their fish list by December 27. This should give Ivan at Aquaria Canada a bit of a head start to track down some of the hard to find stuff (if anyone is looking for that kind of thing). Remember, this is regarding the fish only.

For those who have ordered cleanup crew, please let me know what snails/crab/shrimp you want and the quantity that you want if you haven't done so already. There is a list that's updated on the first page. If I've missed anything or entered something incorrectly, please let me know ASAP.

Happy Holidays,
-Harvey

I have a revised list, but give me a day or two to figure it out. Some of it does hing on price though so I think I might be better to wait until the price list is out just for reference.

We have decided to go with Ivan at Aquaria Canada for our Invert order.
Here is pricing for the inverts based on the quantities we have confirmed.
Shipping will be extra. (Although it shouldn't be that much with all the people we have in on this order... :mrgreen: )

SNAILS
Astrea - 1.35
Margarita - 1.59
Cerith - 1.59
Nassarius - 1.35
Trochus - 2.99
Turbo - 1.99

CRABS
Scarlets Hermit - 2.99
Blue Leg(sml) - 0.99
Red Leg(sml) - 0.99
Emerald Crab - 8.99

OTHERS
Cleaner Shrimp - 14.99
Peppermint Shrimp - 8.99
Mangrove Pods - 14.99


If anyone wants pricing on something other than on this list pm me as soon as possible and I will try to get it for you! Also as Harvey said we need to know the fish people are interested in ASAP as well. We do need to give Ivan some time to source everything... :cool:

order.
 

would like to get 20 turbo snail.who do i talk to.
as well. 10 blue leg.
and 10 red leg.
thanks ed

Aside from the cost of the livestock is there a shipping cost? Would all our orders be shipped to us individually or what? And what about the arrive-alive policy?