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Animal-Chin 09-23-2015 11:00 PM

Are blood worms ok for saltwater fish?
 
I feed my fish Mysis, brine, krill and plankton but have never done blood worms. Does anyone else?

rishu_pepper 09-24-2015 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Animal-Chin (Post 964971)
I feed my fish Mysis, brine, krill and plankton but have never done blood worms. Does anyone else?

I feed blood worms about twice a week. My copperband butterfly seems to be the biggest fan, and the others eat them up without complaining either.

Piscez 09-24-2015 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rishu_pepper (Post 964976)
I feed blood worms about twice a week. My copperband butterfly seems to be the biggest fan, and the others eat them up without complaining either.

Ditto

Myka 09-24-2015 03:48 AM

Nutritionally speaking, saltwater organisms generally have a more complex amino acid profile than freshwater organisms. Bloodworms are freshwater critters and our reefs are saltwater so on paper bloodworms aren't the best choice as a staple diet. Does it really matter? Probably not, unless bloodworms make up a significant portion of the diet.

I don't normally feed them, but they are in my freezer because I used to enjoy training Mandarins to eat frozen food and I found some (few) took to Bloodworms better than Brine.

spit.fire 09-24-2015 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 964990)
Nutritionally speaking, saltwater organisms generally have a more complex amino acid profile than freshwater organisms. Bloodworms are freshwater critters and our reefs are saltwater so on paper bloodworms aren't the best choice as a staple diet. Does it really matter? Probably not, unless bloodworms make up a significant portion of the diet.

I don't normally feed them, but they are in my freezer because I used to enjoy training Mandarins to eat frozen food and I found some (few) took to Bloodworms better than Brine.

mysis are freshwater

George 09-24-2015 05:40 AM

This may be a little off topic, but mysis shrimps that are being sold in the aquarium trade are not all the same species. Some brands mainly sell fresh water mysis (PE). Some are brackish/fresh water (hikari). Some are advertised as saltwater mysis.
FYI, if you want to train a fish to eat, instead of blood worms, you can try live black worms. The movements of live black worms attract some finicky eaters.

albert_dao 09-24-2015 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by George (Post 964995)
FYI, if you want to train a fish to eat, instead of blood worms, you can try live black worms. The movements of live black worms attract some finicky eaters.

Live blackworms also have this miraculous properly of keeping fish mad healthy. I've fattened up and maintained so many finicky and/or challenging fish using these worms that I could probably buy a new motorcycle with the savings. Honestly, if they weren't such a pain, I'd have them on hand all the time.

Attractive prey movement + Very strong nutritional profile = great tool for acclimatizing and maintaining new fish!

Piscez 09-24-2015 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 964997)
Live blackworms also have this miraculous properly of keeping fish mad healthy. I've fattened up and maintained so many finicky and/or challenging fish using these worms that I could probably buy a new motorcycle with the savings. Honestly, if they weren't such a pain, I'd have them on hand all the time.

Attractive prey movement + Very strong nutritional profile = great tool for acclimatizing and maintaining new fish!


Hey Albert where does one get these blackworms?

gregzz4 09-24-2015 05:57 AM

Black worms - blood worms ... same thing ? I don't know as back in my freshwater days they were known as 'worms', and they were live.

So are they the same, or are there 2 kinds ?

albert_dao 09-24-2015 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Piscez (Post 964998)
Hey Albert where does one get these blackworms?

King Ed's had them years ago. Maybe check with Patrick at Canadian Aquatics?

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 964999)
Black worms - blood worms ... same thing ? I don't know as back in my freshwater days they were known as 'worms', and they were live.

So are they the same, or are there 2 kinds ?

Different animal. Bloodworms are a larval midge (an insect). Blackworms are an annelid (a true worm). Also not to be confused with Tubifex worms, another type of annelid.

Wheelman76 09-24-2015 07:48 AM

Canadian Aquatics does sell live ones but you have to buy a fairly large quantity. I can't remember exactly how much though.

rishu_pepper 09-24-2015 03:37 PM

I emailed Charles a few weeks ago, quoted $55/lb I think. I might try some if/when I get some finicky eaters.

Myka 09-24-2015 04:08 PM

Blackworms are a really good trick to have up the sleeve. They can also help to trigger spawning activity in fish that need a bit of a tip over the edge. Locally, I order them through Petland. A 5" ball is $20. They usually come in with lots of leeches which have to be picked out. The last batch I ordered died in only a few days, so I didn't even get a chance to feed any to my fish, but usually they live a few weeks in the fridge.

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Originally Posted by spit.fire (Post 964991)
mysis are freshwater

Piscine Mysis are freshwater, certainly. Piscine is based in the Okanagan of BC. The Piscine Mysis are an exception in that they have an outstanding amino acid profile which is why I said, "Nutritionally speaking, saltwater organisms generally have a more complex amino acid profile than freshwater organisms." :)

Piscez 09-24-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rishu_pepper (Post 965020)
I emailed Charles a few weeks ago, quoted $55/lb I think. I might try some if/when I get some finicky eaters.

$55 a pound!!!!!!!!!!! YIKES :drinking::drinking::drinking:

albert_dao 09-24-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Piscez (Post 965035)
$55 a pound!!!!!!!!!!! YIKES :drinking::drinking::drinking:

Totally worth it. I mean, mysis isn't far off, and it's frozen.

spit.fire 09-24-2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 965038)
Totally worth it. I mean, mysis isn't far off, and it's frozen.

you can also grow your own colony of blackworms so its kind of a one time purchase if you do it right


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