New to Saltwater - So Many Questions!
 

I hope I've got this in the right place!

I am in the process of starting my first saltwater tank. I have done all sorts of freshwater for the last ten years or so and I've been considering trying my hand at saltwater for a while, but I finally decided to do it a few months ago.

My set up;

-26 gallon bowfront
-Tunze Comline DOC Skimmer 9001
-Tunze Turbelle nanostream 6020
-Fluval Sea LED light strip (not fancy, I know)
-25lbs base rock (I may add a bit more)
-1.5-2 inches of sand
-C3 fluval HOB filter

I did not want to go live. I have a thing about segmented worms and wormy things with legs? It's weird, yeah, but I can't even handle PICTURES of bristleworms, so I'm starting off completely dead. The horror stories of people finding 5+ foot worms in their tanks definitely put the last nail in that coffin, no matter how rare it might be.

The tank has been cycling for about 3 weeks now. The levels as of yesterday were;

Ammonia - none to minimal. I can't quite tell if there is any colour to the solution or if it's just the light. I'll do another test in the morning and look at it outside where my living room lights won't confuse me.
Nitrite - 2ppm (down from 3 a couple days before, so it's going down now)
Nitrate - 50ppm
PH - 7.7

I know my PH is too low... Baking soda still the best solution? Or is there a better way? Will the PH have any effect on my cycle or can I wait to fix that until after it finishes and I do the water change?

When the time comes to start adding some life to it, what should I start with? I was thinking one or two nassarius snails to help stir my sand bed as well and one or two cerith snails? Would I be able to add a shrimp at the same time? I really like fire shrimp. Would one of those be okay to add early on, or should I wait until the tank is a little older? I know freshwater shrimp can be really finicky, does the same hold true for saltwater?

As for fish, I'm looking to start with a couple occelaris clowns. Then maybe some combination of a yellow clown goby, a tailspot blenny, and a firefish. Is hoping I can do them all too much? I know stocking rules for saltwater are different, but I'm not really sure how those rules work yet.

Thank you ahead of time for any help or advice you all might offer!

Welcome aboard and yes this is the right place to ask questions the more questions you ask the better off you will be.

Sorry just getting off nightshift so can't answer any of your questions just now but others will step up to the plate to help out

I went all dead rock with my new reef also. Not sure if its from the one small piece of live rock or from frags but I have bristle worms all over. So be aware of what goes in after.

The tank has been cycling for about 3 weeks now. The levels as of yesterday were;

Ammonia - none to minimal. I can't quite tell if there is any colour to the solution or if it's just the light. I'll do another test in the morning and look at it outside where my living room lights won't confuse me.
Nitrite - 2ppm (down from 3 a couple days before, so it's going down now)
Nitrate - 50ppm
PH - 7.7

I use a bulk soda ash from one of our many sponsors.


Nassarius usually need a seasoned sanded to survive but a couple would be ok, as long as tank is fed good and they can get some of the food from the surface. A few ceriths would be ok, as would a couple turbos as long as they have a bit of algae of some kind to eat. Fire shrimp are nice. They will eat most anything fed. Mine were bullies though and killed my peppermints & cleaners. Also tried stealing momma clowns eggs. Needless to say she put an end to their existence. I would like another pair but stick with cleaners & peppermints now.

I like clown pairs and they are good for a smaller tank. Bought my percs as baby tank born clowns. That was close to 15yrs. ago and still thriving. The male still tries biting me everytime Im in the tank. Would think after all that time he would trust me.:lol:
Never had a clown goby or not a big fan of blennys, {myself}. But many do. I prefer smaller gobies like various watchman gobies. Filefish are nice but bad jumpers. Be aware of that.

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OMG Brad... That is so mean! Lol!

Welcome to Canreef River! Worms are a fact of life when keeping a reef, so get use to them now. I started with all dry rock and am fastidious about dipping frags. My tank is 5 months old and I have worms, pods, bubble algae, sponges and aptasia all come in on frags. Life will always find a way into your tank. Also be prepared for your beneficial bacteria to take longer establishing with dry rock. If I could give you one piece of advice as one noob to another, use some live rock.

I wouldn't worry about ph right now adding sodium bicarbonate is only going to raise your alk with nothing to bring it down , the ph rising effect is very short lived.

Skimmer?

Your ph will get better once photosynthesis strats taking place in the tank :) but you can help it along by running a skimmer or more fresh air and good circulation :)

I started with a couple of hermits and ceriths, just to help maintain algae and diatoms.

I went base rock too, but I did use live sand to help with getting bacteria into the tank.

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Ya I wouldn't worry about adding any buffers to your tank right now, once ur fully cycled change 20% of your water and all should be good. Because you have a 26g weekly water changes after the cycle are the best thing you can do for your tank. Then you won't really have to worry about any buffers or anything.

+1

Seems like you are off the a great start.

Wow, thanks all for the responses - wasn't really expecting that! Good to know about the ph. I do have a skimmer but it's not running yet. I did a dumb right off the bat and need to wait until after a water change or two to get it going. (Ran out of ro water and figured a couple gallons of tap water wouldn't hurt. Stress Coat did though. Won't be making that mistake again!)

I'm just headed to work though, so I'll put up a better reply on my break. Just wanted to say thanks in the meantime!

Couldn't figure out how to edit my last post, sorry.


Dearth & Aquattro - thank you for the welcome! If it's all the same to you I think I'm going to ignore the link for the time being based on the response to it :lol:

Doug - good to know about the fire shrimp. Maybe I'll just stick with a regular cleaner with that in mind. I love the look of the fires, but not at the expense of any other shrimp I may want.

WarDog - I know I'll have to move a lot slower without the live rock, I'm okay with that. It's really only the bristleworms I'd have a hard time with, despite the way I made myself sound I'm not usually squeamish with these sorts of things. That just happens to be my weak spot. If I get them despite my best efforts then I'll deal with it, but I am going to do everything within my power to avoid them to begin with!


So you think my stocking levels will be okay? The last thing I want to do is try to stick too much in there and set myself up to fail!

You've all been totally awesome already. I can't stress enough how much I appreciate the help!

Your choice of fish is fine, all stay small and are usually peaceful. You can add all 4 fish you listed in a 26g. The blenny and goby are more sitters than swimmers. Don't be alarmed if your firefish disappears for a couple days when first introduced to the tank, they are shy at first and will hide in a hole in the rock work.

If you like Fire shrimp I would add them one day. Thats how mine behaved but yours may not. They are truly beautiful shrimp. I would add another pair but have 10 peppermints and besides momma perc would likely do them in again. :lol:

Ur no fun.

I have been told this on occasion, yes... But come on, I'm not going to walk into a trap I've been tipped off about!

Do you figure they'd be better if they were added after any other inverts? I'd like to get a couple sexy shrimp and/or pom pom crabs at some point as well. I'd rather just go with the regular cleaner if there's a high chance that they'll get killed by the fire. Would they be less aggressive singly, maybe?