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A bit Disappointing
They were out of same base rock I wanted.
When asked when they would have more in stock I was told they didn't know as their purchasing manager is away till the end of the month. So I would only be able to find out when they would get any at that point. So could be 1 month could be 3 till these rocks arrive. Not sure I want to delay my build for 1-3 months on a vague guess. |
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i have some live rock
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if you want limestone as a foundation go to a landscaping place-also for lace rock or lava rock
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Have you tried speaking with Jeff about this issue ?
If that doesn't work out, honestly, you're better off using live rock I regret using base in my build, as do many others |
I think you'll find far more people regretting the pests that came with their live rock...
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OK, so you think more people have problems related to using base rock (maybe a nutrient release if not properly prepared, take a long time to become "live") than problems related to using live rock (cost, die-off, aiptasia, majano, dinoflagellates, bryopsis, predatory hitchhikers, many other rarer/deadlier/more difficult to eradicate pests, and not to mention the destruction of live habitat in the ocean)?
OK then |
Curious Mikellini what is your rock of choice if it does noy come from the ocean?
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Live rock is the only way for me 😄 by the way I have houndreds of pounds pest free willing to let go of some cheap if needed.
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OK, I can't leave well enough alone :)
Most threads I read from people using dry/dead rock end with algae problems. In time, they also suffer all the other pests introduced from corals bases, etc. Quote:
die off - seriously? It's a few days curing and skimming aiptasia/majano - can happen regardless of source of rock bryopsis - algae, it comes in with other stuff as well, keep your nutrients in check Predatory hitchhikers - almost always easy to remove Rarer/deadlier? - not even sure what you're talking about Destruction of habitat - again, seriously? Unless you have a tank of rock, I'm guessing you have some ocean creatures in your tiny glass box. I'm sure they appreciate your effort to preserve what used to be their home. Although the fact that they will eventually die in your livingroom probably reduces that appreciation by some degree. I have used at least 500 pounds of real live rock over the last 12 years, mostly bought from J&L. I once got a mantis. It jumped out of the rock back into the box it shipped in. Troublesome indeed. Another time I got 9 isopods. Nasty little blood suckers. Took 20 minutes to catch them and it was kinda fun. Mostly I just had really nice tanks with 0 nutrient or algae problems ever. Biggest regret? I'm a bad resource for giving advice on dealing with problems encountered with everything you claim is bad. ok then. |
Some of the engineered rock is pretty cool, the ceramic stuff would be nice. Ya it's expensive, I didn't know J&L carried any I'll check it out. I've always kinda done live rock but I see the benefit of engineered.
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I won't argue with your nearly 15000 posts, obviously time well spent. All I was saying is that using properly prepared dry rock is a cheaper method that is better for the environment and less likely to introduce pests. Obviously the original poster agrees to some extent. Don't get your tighties in a bunch man :)
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And nothing is in a bunch, just expressing my opinion. I do that a lot. Nearly 15,000 times, in fact. I'm just willing to bet, that in 95% of the cases, if J&L offered premium live rock from the real ocean for the same price as dry quarry rock, people would take the real rock. It's a price thing, and I get agitated by all the made up excuses about pests and the environment. We're not in a "care about the environment" kinda hobby. And anytime I've pressed the topic, the pressee eventually admitted it was solely based on money. Perhaps you're a purist and really believe all of your own post, but if so, you're a rare one. |
15000 posts... Big party whats the plan free frags from all vendors?
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I didn't really mean this post to turn into a debate of live vs not live.
Was just stating my disappointment in the rather vague response I got. It made me feel as a customer that my business wasn't important, and that they were unconcerned about losing a potential long term customer. |
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Yes we derailed your thread, sorry. As a new consumer they could have provided a better answer I agree. Nothing happens fast in this hobby, at least nothing good. J & L is good don't write them off from one bad answer.
Good luck I hope you find some rock. |
I like base rock.
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You could order if from Eli at Fiji Reef Rock. I believe it's free shipping over $200.
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+1 on the Fiji Reef Rock from Eli. Way betther than the Marco Rock or whatever it is at J&L, I've used both. Just be sure to cure the PO4 out of it before you use it.
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Its a new tank doesn't even have water in it yet-well it did just to check for leaks and stuff. And he does seem to have some nice stuff.
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I guess back to the point - the only thing you could be disappointed about is that no one was able to answer your question. Being disappointed that they don't have rock in stock and for whatever reason, you feel this will delay your build - is your own choice. there are plenty of other people that will have rock for sale.
I would say the situation just sucks but is the reality of how other businesses also operate - purchasers get time off too. |
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Its not like I was looking for something thats rare or had to be special ordered. |
I'm not sure on the base rock j&l sells but eli from fijiji reef rock has some nice pukani rock. I purchased from him about a month ago about 74 lbs I gave it a bleach bath and meta tic acid bath and put in tank then I purchased 60lbs live Fiji rock that had lots of coralaian alga on and being new to the hobbie was worth it checking out all the critters living in it and new growth coral on the rocks. And I think by doing that I never really seen a tank cycle but I let it run with nothing in it for a couple weeks. I have had fish and coral in tank for about a week now. I have hair alga on the dry pukani rock that the fish love eating and the Fiji rock is building more corelane http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psgh4k36sx.jpg
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Rsisvixen,
Sorry for the delayed reply, I'm not getting notification emails from Canreef and I've got to look in to that right now. Please feel free to contact me to discuss the type of rock you are wanting. I can understand your position, and this situation has no doubt been complicated by the fact that we are making some changes to our dry rock offerings and our purchaser is key in that. Normally our staff are able to give you an ETA that will be relatively accurate. Talk to you soon - I'll do my best to bring you up to speed on our base rock situation. Jeff O'Neill J&L Aquatics Ltd. |
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