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Miss Kraken 06-09-2014 01:15 AM

Group Sale!: Berghia Nudibranchs (for your aiptasia problems)
 
Hey everyone, Fiona here!

Got an annoying aiptasia problem and chemical dosing, peppermint shrimp, copperband butterflys, blah blah blah, not working? We got just what you need - Berghia Nudibranchs!

Mother Nature's natural solution for these pests is the Berghia Nudibranch as they are:
  • small in size (1" - 1.5") and can fit through any crack and crevice in your tank
  • eats only aiptasia and nothing else (as mentioned above)
  • breeds like rabbits in a balanced tank with ample food source (aiptasia!) and adequate hiding spaces
  • very little bioload
  • reef and fish safe
  • will eat any sized aiptasia (even the ones you've been "nurturing" over the years)
For those in desperate relief of their aiptasia infestation, Kraken is carrying these suckers for a limited time of $20 each! When you purchase 4, your 5th one is FREE!


Shipping is $40 across Canada.


Please send in your orders by Friday, through pm or email!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UPJs...ature=youtu.be

Before and After footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGFO-...ature=youtu.be

bsung413 06-09-2014 03:31 AM

Anyone in Vancouver area who are interested and wants to get it together to save a few bucks on shipping?

Slyguy00 06-09-2014 03:36 AM

id be in on at least 2-4

Timbits 06-09-2014 03:42 AM

May be in as well tagging along :biggrin:

bsung413 06-09-2014 06:08 AM

Great!

We will wait till tomorrow and see if there are anymore person who wants to join!

Then we can organize this:)

Wheelman76 06-09-2014 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slyguy00 (Post 900758)
id be in on at least 2-4

I wouldn't go with any less than 4 in a tank your size Nick , maybe even 5 or 6. They need to be able to find each other to breed. The ones that you buy won't do a lot for your aptasia problem , it's the babies that are the real ferocious eaters. So going the Berghia route works great but can take a couple months before you start to notice a difference. I also wouldn't recommend using Berghia unless you have quite a few aptasia , because if the tank is too big and you don't have many aptasia they will starve to death before they can find the aptasia to feed on.

Here's a good read about Berghia and I would suggest anyone whos considering ordering Berghia to check it out so you know what to expect and how many you should order.

http://www.saltyunderground.com/pages.php?pID=23

Kraken 06-09-2014 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 900787)
I wouldn't go with any less than 4 in a tank your size Nick , maybe even 5 or 6. They need to be able to find each other to breed. The ones that you buy won't do a lot for your aptasia problem , it's the babies that are the real ferocious eaters. So going the Berghia route works great but can take a couple months before you start to notice a difference. I also wouldn't recommend using Berghia unless you have quite a few aptasia , because if the tank is too big and you don't have many aptasia they will starve to death before they can find the aptasia to feed on.

Here's a good read about Berghia and I would suggest anyone whos considering ordering Berghia to check it out so you know what to expect and how many you should order.

http://www.saltyunderground.com/pages.php?pID=23

He speaks the truth. Thats why when I introduced my bergia, I used a seperator box and put rocks with aiptasia in it. The top of the box is above the water level so the berghia are safe from predation and will find eachother easily (especially in a big tank). Ill show you guys my setup >=D

I had zoanthids that had aiptasias in them too so I just put them into the box to clear them off first and its very easy for the berghia to find as well.

Wheelman76 06-09-2014 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraken (Post 900788)
He speaks the truth. Thats why when I introduced my bergia, I used a seperator box and put rocks with aiptasia in it. The top of the box is above the water level so the berghia are safe from predation and will find eachother easily (especially in a big tank). Ill show you guys my setup >=D

I had zoanthids that had aiptasias in them too so I just put them into the box to clear them off first and its very easy for the berghia to find as well.

Great idea !! I'd like to see pics

Slyguy00 06-09-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 900787)
I wouldn't go with any less than 4 in a tank your size Nick , maybe even 5 or 6. They need to be able to find each other to breed. The ones that you buy won't do a lot for your aptasia problem , it's the babies that are the real ferocious eaters. So going the Berghia route works great but can take a couple months before you start to notice a difference. I also wouldn't recommend using Berghia unless you have quite a few aptasia , because if the tank is too big and you don't have many aptasia they will starve to death before they can find the aptasia to feed on.

Here's a good read about Berghia and I would suggest anyone whos considering ordering Berghia to check it out so you know what to expect and how many you should order.

http://www.saltyunderground.com/pages.php?pID=23

Thanks for the info jess! I guess ill have to get a couple more for sure.

monocus 06-09-2014 08:43 AM

berghia
 
great ,i was going to do a group buy to salty underground,but i guess you are just as good(better shipping price)

Kraken 06-09-2014 12:48 PM

Yup. Get your numbers in to me as soon as possible so I can make sure I have enough for everybody =)

monocus 06-09-2014 03:12 PM

berghia
 
so anybody in the gvrd who wants berghia pm me by thursday to arrange for shipping.i can hold the berghia in my berghia tanks and keep them fed until pickup

monocus 06-10-2014 12:54 AM

berghia
 
order so far:
monocus-12
slyguy00-5

bsung413 06-10-2014 01:54 AM

Yo! Sorry I been busy today. But I will let you know tomorrow how many I need'

Thanks

Kraken 06-12-2014 12:34 PM

Okay guys! Everyone who is interested in getting in on the Berghia, just send me a pm with how many you want. These will be shipped out on Monday so please let me know Saturday Latest! Only have around 25 left!

Bugger 06-14-2014 01:05 AM

I bought 10 of these in January of 2014 since that time I have only seen one grown adult and two babies. My aptaisa is still present after six month. These things have a gut the size of grain of sand and just one anemones is enough to feed one for days. Many people have tried these things but few report success. I have heard others with a simulair experiance to mine Mine probally ended up in a power head. I even used course foam pad to prevent them from getting down my overflo. 20 dollars for a small bug is a rip off. Just one 5 dollar pepperment shrimp would put a whole group of these things to shame. I put no faith in this creature nothing but disappointments. Sorry for being a Debbie downer but its a forum.

Kraken 06-14-2014 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugger (Post 901446)
I bought 10 of these in January of 2014 since that time I have only seen one grown adult and two babies. My aptaisa is still present after six month. These things have a gut the size of grain of sand and just one anemones is enough to feed one for days. Many people have tried these things but few report success. I have heard others with a simulair experiance to mine Mine probally ended up in a power head. I even used course foam pad to prevent them from getting down my overflo. 20 dollars for a small bug is a rip off. Just one 5 dollar pepperment shrimp would put a whole group of these things to shame. I put no faith in this creature nothing but disappointments. Sorry for being a Debbie downer but its a forum.

Thats unfortunate to hear. Could you let me know more about your system? For instance, what kind of livestock, how big the tank was..how did you introduce the berghia? Also how much liverock do you have?

The Berghia's are very delicate creatures so you really have to make sure you introduce them right and really have to let them settle in so they can get comfortable and hide in your live rock. Also, how big were your berghia's?

As for your claims of the berghia not being effective...I really beg to differ. Im making a video right now to show how fast they consume aiptasia. Naturally if you have 2 in a 200 gallon then its going to take a long time for them to populate. These guys work best in numbers, where they can spawn and its their babies that wipe out the aiptasia. Not the initial ones, although they are very effective as well.

Slyguy00 06-14-2014 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugger (Post 901446)
I bought 10 of these in January of 2014 since that time I have only seen one grown adult and two babies. My aptaisa is still present after six month. These things have a gut the size of grain of sand and just one anemones is enough to feed one for days. Many people have tried these things but few report success. I have heard others with a simulair experiance to mine Mine probally ended up in a power head. I even used course foam pad to prevent them from getting down my overflo. 20 dollars for a small bug is a rip off. Just one 5 dollar pepperment shrimp would put a whole group of these things to shame. I put no faith in this creature nothing but disappointments. Sorry for being a Debbie downer but its a forum.

Peppermint shrimp are 50/50 for eating aptasia. They are also know to eat acans and some lps. Mine ate my acans. Sorry but id way rather get berghias. Clearly you had some bad luck.

LoJack 06-14-2014 02:37 PM

Yup, or didn't do the homework and have a fish that likes to eat them. I've heard of tons of success with Berghia.

Bugger 06-14-2014 03:08 PM

Sure they eat acans but you can move those to the sump . They only eat aptisia if you starve the shrimp. comparing that slug to the peppermint shrimp is like comparing a Jar Jar binks to an Empire Walker. Like a skate board to a Mercedes. Here is my tank http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=101746
I have no wrasses or anything that would eat the slug
If you do a search on other forums you will find that my bad luck is shared by many other people that tried them.

Slyguy00 06-14-2014 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugger (Post 901509)
Sure they eat acans but you can move those to the sump . They only eat aptisia if you starve the shrimp. comparing that slug to the peppermint shrimp is like comparing a Jar Jar binks to an Empire Walker. Like a skate board to a Mercedes. Here is my tank http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=101746
I have no wrasses or anything that would eat the slug
If you do a search on other forums you will find that my bad luck is shared by many other people that tried them.

Why would you move your acans to the sump? Just so you can have a peppermint shrimp? That makes no sense. Im not exactly sure where you are going with your star wars comparison, but I think if you do some more research you will find quite the opposite.

Bugger 06-14-2014 03:37 PM

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hlight=berghia

Everybody here says the same thing

monocus 06-14-2014 04:40 PM

berghia
 
first of all berghia take time to do their job.if your looking for instant success-forget it.in this hobby you have to have patience.for a 50 gal tank you need 6-8 berghia,and you might see a start of the disappearance at 3 months.the good thing about berghia is they eat all the cells of aptasia without leaving anything behind to start new colonies of aptasia.also berghia only eat aptasia unlike other natural control methods.as for fish eating them;i don't think so.nudibranches have a foul taste that fish don't like.i've seen my lunar wrasse try to eat a berghia and immediately spit it out.as for not seeing them;they are nocturnal and can get "sunburnt" under lighting.another mistake people make is spreading the berghia all over the tank.i place my berghia in a shot glass together just before lights out and let them crawl out on their own as a group.they need to find each other in order to reproduce,and it's the babies that really are the aptasia destroyers.they also get into every crevasse,unlike any other control.there is also a myth about currents, flow,and pumps.berghia will go everywhere to get at aptasia,including inside a return pump and survive to the main display with no harm.there is no difference between a high flow or low flow berghia.it is the same berghia with better marketing to squeeze a few extra $ out of your pocket.as for survivability in shipping,it is better that they are at least 5/8"as i have found the smaller ones don't ship well

Kraken 06-14-2014 08:51 PM

Yes. Unfortunately thats the issue with most people who did not have very good experiences with bergia. I used to doubt it too as I did not like their price tag. But after using them myself, they are probably the best solution. I have 2 wrasses in my tank, and I was afraid that they would get eaten as well. So I took precautions and made sure the bergia were safe in an enclosed box with some aiptasia in there so they can get comfortable and start reproducing. Once they get going, they massacre the aiptasia in your tank in no time. Peppermints I tried, putting 20 in my tank, which got devoured by my hawkfish and my black tang for somereason ate them too =.=.....no clue why. Just remember you cannot just throw the berghia in there, especially with predation. They do not like a lot of light either and only come out to hunt at night as stated by monocus.

Sadly I didnt take before and after shots of my tank but the amount of aiptasia I had was disgusting.

If I can find my hands on a lot of aiptasia ill document the whole thing so everyone can see just how effective they are.

Kraken 06-15-2014 01:44 AM

OKAY!

I just filmed this video litterally last night. Sorry for the crappy quality but I shot it with the wrong settings on my gopro.

Here ya go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGFO-...ature=youtu.be

Hope you can see the aiptasia on the zoanthid rocks.

Slyguy00 06-15-2014 02:01 AM

Thats pretty awesome!


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