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Aquattro 05-17-2014 01:31 PM

Free - AEFW
 
Just discovered some AEFW and decided I don't want them. Free for the taking, apparently all you can carry. Sorry, no shipping.

:neutral:

reefme 05-17-2014 01:40 PM

Should this be under buy/sell section?:lol:

Aquattro 05-17-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by reefme (Post 897343)
Should this be under buy/sell section?:lol:

Possibly soon as a "shutting down" sale ? :)

reefme 05-17-2014 01:50 PM

This hobby is so much fun...:lol: setting it up and shutting it down and over and over again.

Reef Pilot 05-17-2014 02:23 PM

OMG, you have my sympathies, for sure. That is probably my worst fear, and not sure what I would do if it happened to me. And don't think you need any advice, as you probably know more than anybody here about this pest and what to do with it.

But if there are any lessons or advice you can give to the rest of us on how to prevent it, would sure like to hear that. Do you even know how this latest outbreak got started?

Best of luck, with whatever you decide. Just hope this isn't the reason/excuse for you to shut things down for a while. At worst you can always start a new tank.... Might be fun,... and a chance to try out some new ideas.

Aquattro 05-17-2014 02:30 PM

"Fun" just isn't a word I'm using a lot today -lol

Not sure how they got in, I have a couple of possibilities. I added a frag once that was in for a few days that had them before I got it out, and I added a colony that had them that was well treated, but maybe I missed some eggs. The colony I dipped last night had at least 50 on it, probably more. A second colony had half that. A third had 1.

Honestly, it seems that no matter how diligent you are, they just always make their way in somehow.

At this point I'm not sure how to proceed, thinking leave it and see what happens. There's no way I can remove and treat the volume of acros I have.

I have been toying with the idea of a downgrade, so just kicking ideas around for that today. Jon just posted a cube I'm giving thought to.

The logistics are tough though, a replacement tank needs to go where the existing tank is, more or less. A downgrade also means losing my favorite fish.

Not sure what to do.

Dez 05-17-2014 02:39 PM

Oh no Brad

Aquattro 05-17-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 897351)
Oh no Brad

Had to happen one day, I suppose.

Proteus 05-17-2014 03:49 PM

Sad to here brad. I recently also picked up some at a bulk sale. I was seriously on the shut it down plane, but thought quitting is defeat. And while I have a small tank I was able to remove acros cut the dead spots off and dip and qt. With a big tank you kinda Sol for tgat route

You've talked about a cube in the past and while you do loose out on things like certain fish you gain in other areas. Like a single halide. Hehe

Reefer Rob 05-17-2014 03:51 PM

Oh crap!! Not sure what I'd do with so many mature colonies.

Aquattro 05-17-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus (Post 897358)
you gain in other areas. Like a single halide. Hehe

He's reading my mind!! :)

Aquattro 05-17-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rob (Post 897360)
Oh crap!! Not sure what I'd do with so many mature colonies.

If I go the upgrade (downgrade?) route, I can salvage all my remaining pieces. I'm not too upset about it, I had this change in mind for a while. It's just going to suck tossing out so much coral..

sumpfinfishe 05-17-2014 04:47 PM

Wow Brad sorry to hear, with all your experience though I thought you would be up for a challenge of dipping hundreds of acros, that really sucks man but im sure you will make the right decision on how to proceed. What about setting up a temp tank and dip system, you could just dip what you want and sell/donate the rest, or remodel the picnic table:cry::mrgreen:

Dez 05-17-2014 04:51 PM

I haven't added any corals for over 2 years because of the fear of diseases. And recently my good friend **** down his tank and have me some corals, and I got red bugs. Now I'm in the second week of treatment for that. So going forward, I'm going to stick to my gut of not adding any corals, even from sources I trust. Why do we do this hobby again?

Slyguy00 05-17-2014 04:55 PM

Just had this a few weeks ago. Interceptor makes easy work of Acro eating flatworm. Its a bit pricey, and you have to get it from a vet, but I used it and my sps has never been happier. It sure makes easy work of "the hardest flatworm to get rid of", just make sure to remove shrimp and hermits if you do. Good luck!

Slyguy00 05-17-2014 04:57 PM

Guess I should add for those who don't know, Interceptor is a dog worm medication that has proven to be extremely effective against all types of flat worms. Look it up online, its pretty impressive. You all seem to think its a huge problem, but with Interceptor its just plain easy. Bye Bye flat worms.

mrhasan 05-17-2014 05:35 PM

Dragonface pipefish....maybe?

Proteus 05-17-2014 05:45 PM

No predator would ever eradicate the pest only get fat off them and possibly "controll" them

Slyguy00 05-17-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus (Post 897380)
No predator would ever eradicate the pest only get fat off them and possibly "controll" them

+1

Madreefer 05-17-2014 06:14 PM

This thread sux!!!!!! Sorry to hear bout.

Wheelman76 05-17-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyguy00 (Post 897373)
Just had this a few weeks ago. Interceptor makes easy work of Acro eating flatworm. Its a bit pricey, and you have to get it from a vet, but I used it and my sps has never been happier. It sure makes easy work of "the hardest flatworm to get rid of", just make sure to remove shrimp and hermits if you do. Good luck!

I know interceptor works for red bugs , but I didnt think it worked for AEFW.

Werbo 05-17-2014 06:46 PM

Sorry to hear. Melanarus wrasse or Yellow wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus) may eat AEFW. Both are relatively cheap.

Aquattro 05-17-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 897387)
I know interceptor works for red bugs , but I didnt think it worked for AEFW.

Correct. Red bugs yes, AEFW, no.

Borderjumper 05-17-2014 07:40 PM

****ty!

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 03:22 AM

Interceptor absolutely works on acro eating flat worms. If you don't believe me look it up. And not only does it work, it works damn good, with no ill side effects. I just used this only a month ago. Type it on on google, some people dose it every 6 months just as a precaution. Not that I would recommend that.

Proteus 05-18-2014 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyguy00 (Post 897444)
Interceptor absolutely works on acro eating flat worms. If you don't believe me look it up. And not only does it work, it works damn good, with no ill side effects. I just used this only a month ago. Type it on on google, some people dose it every 6 months just as a precaution. Not that I would recommend that.

Show a link I looked and found nothing supporting this claim

Aquattro 05-18-2014 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyguy00 (Post 897444)
If you don't believe me look it up.

Can you look that up for me and post a link? Everything I just googled said no. Everything I've ever read said no.

Aquattro 05-18-2014 03:44 AM

continuing to search, and so far everything says no. Interceptor is specific to crustaceans, which AEFW are not.

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 04:01 AM

Lol this is crazy because I swear I read it lots before using it, and watched them fall off after using it. My sps have never been happier, and I certainly don't have AEFW anymore. But I may be eating my words as I cannot find anything on it either... So honestly not sure what the heck is up lol. But I got the pills from another member on here who also dosed it to treat AEFW with success. Im a little confused as to where I got my information then. Either way, it worked for me! i took out my shrimp n hermits, and dosed half a pill. Within an hour I saw them starting to move around and fall off my sps. For me the proof is in the pudding. But my mistake as I can't seem to find anything either..:redface:

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 04:03 AM

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f5...lrb-97900.html

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 04:04 AM

Lol all I could find sorry guys.

Aquattro 05-18-2014 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyguy00 (Post 897453)

My interpretation of that thread is it works for red bugs. I can't see it working,as the kill mechanism is targeted to crustaceans. No shell, no dead. I can test it if I get another affected colony, I probably have some Interceptor lying around. But I'd have to see it to believe it.

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 04:13 AM

Well I would be quite interested to see an actual test done. I do have a hard time finding much that really backs this up. But I could have sworn i read lots of info backing this up before or I don't know why I would have used it or why another member would have told me they had success with it as well? And if it doesn't work do you have an explanation of why my tank no longer has any? Other than Interceptor I haven't added anything. And they are gone so it had to of worked?

Proteus 05-18-2014 04:16 AM

The guy claimed to also have red bug, hence the interceptor.
Just like flatworms most dips don't kill redbug

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 04:17 AM

Still waiting for an explanation as to why it worked for me then? Also waiting for other members on here who have had success with it to chime in lol.

Wheelman76 05-18-2014 05:19 AM

I've read lots of info about interceptor killing redbugs , but never once read people using it to treat AEFW. Interceptor is a very effective treatment to use against red bugs and easy to use. I think if Interceptor worked to kill AEFW then people would not be so terrified about AEFW because it would be an easy fix to just use interceptor. Maybe you had red bugs too Nick and that's why your sps seem a lot happier? Not sure what to think

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 05:49 AM

Yea im not really sure either, iv been looking into this all night and there is only a few small posts claiming success with this. Jess after you questioned wether or not i had aefw or red bugs it made me wonder myself. I was only told they were AEFW but someone else but never really verified what they were. I could be completely wrong all together now. Here are some pics. What do you guys think?? If they are red bugs then sorry for the inaccurate info. I just tried comparing pics of the two and im starting to think maybe i was misinformed. :redface: sorry guys

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...pstnke5gdl.jpg
http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...psmn2pzvza.jpg
http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa69pxndu.jpg
http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...pskxjzqo8z.jpg

Aquattro 05-18-2014 05:55 AM

That looks like some type of flatworm, but not quite the acro eaters. You can't see them at all on the coral, only after they fall off.

Slyguy00 05-18-2014 05:58 AM

Thats the thing, I couldnt see them at all i just saw thewhite spots. I broke one off and dipped it and what you see in the pics is what fell off. When I dosed interceptor i watched closely and after time saw them start to move on the sps before falling off.

One_Divided 05-18-2014 06:30 AM

I recently tried a heavy dose of interceptor on all my monitpora sp. I had brown/black copepods and a species of montipora flatworms (these didn't seem to eat montipora, just live on it).. Anyways.. This was a 48 hr quarantined treatment (in order to starve any remaining fauna in the main tank). Interceptor did NOT kill the flatworms after the entire 48 hrs. Bugs died within a couple hours. So my point is: interceptor doesn't kill those flatworms, so I doubt it will kill AEFW's. I gave all pieces a heavy dose of RPS before adding back to the tank and haven't seen anything come back, but I think the AEFW's eggs are pretty resilient compared to these sissies.


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