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trilinearmipmap 01-12-2014 03:53 AM

Plumbing advice re: reliability of pvc unions
 
I'm going to re-plumb my tank after many years. I wanted to know people's experience with unions.

So far I have only had unions on drain lines which are over the sump, in case of a leak it would drip into the sump. None have leaked though.

I am looking at adding a couple of unions to the return line for ease of access, and these would be in the back of the tank. A leak would be a minor disaster.

Just wondering if people have experience on leaking or non-leaking of return lines which are under pressure.

Proteus 01-12-2014 03:56 AM

I have unions on return lines without issue.

The Grizz 01-12-2014 04:03 AM

Same here, always have unions on returns and never an issue. I use an o ring grease to make sure they don't dry out and seal tight.

trilinearmipmap 01-12-2014 05:21 AM

Thanks, will do it.

Madreefer 01-12-2014 05:49 AM

With correct primer and glue you shouldn't have any problems at all.

craigwmiller 01-12-2014 05:58 AM

Some have a flashing of plastic on the non-o-ring side of the union left over from the molding process... I use some 600 grit then 1500 grit sand paper to smooth it down. Saves the o-ring from distress.

The Guy 01-12-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap (Post 872831)
I'm going to re-plumb my tank after many years. I wanted to know people's experience with unions.

So far I have only had unions on drain lines which are over the sump, in case of a leak it would drip into the sump. None have leaked though.

I am looking at adding a couple of unions to the return line for ease of access, and these would be in the back of the tank. A leak would be a minor disaster.

Just wondering if people have experience on leaking or non-leaking of return lines which are under pressure.

I have unions on my return PVC piping to be able to take my check valve out for cleaning and it's never been a problem, just don't over tighten them. Do up hand tight then 1/8- 1/4 turn more with channel lock pliers.

mark 01-12-2014 01:09 PM

O-rings will deform. No problem leaking if left alone but if in a few years you take things apart might nice to have new ones available for when you re-assemble.

Last time cleaned CL pump noticed them rather flat, not leaking but took measurements to have next time.

Madreefer 01-12-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 872877)
I have unions on my return PVC piping to be able to take my check valve out for cleaning and it's never been a problem, just don't over tighten them. Do up hand tight then 1/8- 1/4 turn more with channel lock pliers.

That's how I tightened one a long time ago and I broke the bond where it was glued on. But I did'nt use primer. As for the o-ring seal i've never had a problem. It's actually a good idea to use unions on external return pumps in case your pump or pump seal goes, much easier than having to cut your plumbing.

1eyedjyde 01-12-2014 05:16 PM

its always a good plan to use unions around the wear items on your plumbing ie pumps, check valves, wave devices. It makes maintenance possible without having to dismantle your plumbing.

asylumdown 01-12-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1eyedjyde (Post 872931)
its always a good plan to use unions around the wear items on your plumbing ie pumps, check valves, wave devices. It makes maintenance possible without having to dismantle your plumbing.

+1, my pump would be unserviceable without them. The only problem I have had has been some slow salt creep around where the union joined the flex tube piping. I solved that by smothering the seam in aquarium silicone. I'll never be able to get half the union off the pipe, but all I really care about is being able to get the pump out for cleaning.

The Guy 01-12-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 872894)
That's how I tightened one a long time ago and I broke the bond where it was glued on. But I did'nt use primer. As for the o-ring seal i've never had a problem. It's actually a good idea to use unions on external return pumps in case your pump or pump seal goes, much easier than having to cut your plumbing.

I guess me being an HVAC mechanic by trade I forget and assume people would use a hold back on the stationary glued part of the union, also some O-ring lube is good idea on unions.
Hey Bill your new DT looks awesome! :lol:

Madreefer 01-13-2014 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 872969)
I guess me being an HVAC mechanic by trade I forget and assume people would use a hold back on the stationary glued part of the union, also some O-ring lube is good idea on unions.
Hey Bill your new DT looks awesome! :lol:

Hey thanks bud.


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