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Sick and Tired of Waveline pumps
Ok, so long story short I've gone through 3 controllers on my Waveline 12000's. 1st gen controllers were awesome! But they burned out their poorly designed cooler fans, thus in turn burn't out the controllers.
2nd Gen controllers = very poor pump performance (at least on high head applications) 3rd Gen - no change from 2nd gen (at least the ones I got) I have to say, there is a definite, audible difference in RPM from my 1st Gen to the other two, so it seems like it allows the impeller to ramp up further. Now I hear there is another gen that is Apex ready. My question (because it appears RLSS customer service doesn't like it when you keep asking them why their products suck): Does anyone know if these pumps are PWM controlled or how to test if they are? How can I mod something to drive these pumps? |
Yup! Feel your pain. I scrapped both my 10,000's and went back to the tried and true mag drives.
The DC's are great pumps for a while, but unless you fork out huge cash for the big name brands, they will just end up in the garbage. |
What happens when the controller dies? It doesn't have variable speed or it doesn't work at all?
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Myka, when the controller dies, everything dies :(
Fishy,Fishy: I was under the impression (when they first came out) that Waveline were the top of the line. These are definitely NOT Jabeo pumps. Codfather:You are my hero! Has it been working well? Mind if I pick your brain a bit? My boards are way different than yours, but I don't mind poking about a bit to figure out what's going inside. Unfortunately my boards are also not as nicely identifying what wires are doing what. Here's a pic of the latest gen board: http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/...psi3ilgzq8.jpg The wires in the top left are what's coming from the AC/DC Meanwell power supply. The black, White and green wires are headed to the pump. I tried metering them out with my voltmeter but the readings were haywire, constantly moving all over the place. Any idea's? |
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Everyone thought the Waveline pumps were top of the line until the big players released DC pumps that were in the $500+ range and we realized that the Waveline is a cheaper model (and performs as such). Not as cheap as the Jebao, but it may as well be with all the failures. |
Ya, what's weird is with the 1st generation controller I got with the pump, I was probably pushing over 1000 gph. According to the factory charts I should be able to push over 1300 gph at 12' of head, so I figured it was probably close.
A friend had their's running far earlier than mine, but it fried the controller because of poor cooling design. RLSS sent us all new controllers even though I hadn't even run mine yet. My friend ultimately shut their tank down and got out of having a tank because of the damage everything caused - but that's a whole other story.... So I finally have mine up and running and since I still had old controllers, I decided to run them side by side with the new controller to see the difference when I filled up my 210. I'm running 2 separate returns that run side by side so the comparison should be spot on. Well the new controller I bet doesn't put any more than a few hundred gph. It totally sucks compared to the old controller. I would TOTALLY be open to running it wide open with no control. With the head pressure I'm running at I need all I can get. I just need to figure out how to make that happen without burning up the pump :) |
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I had to run a powersource similar to that one, but due to the moisture in the fish room, it too eventually died. |
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