Found this thread handy, thanks. After reading and chatting with a few guys ive decided with apex lite. Its nice to have these threads to see the differences as the lists on these things are huge. Im not going to need the two features of the full version and even if i do later on down the road there is modules for them so its not like you cant make a lite a full version, just might cost a bit more down the road. I looked at profilux too but agree that its just not worth the extra expense, that and i dont have a tonne of room for the head unit. Just waiting for the price and itll get ordered. Christmas is a little late for me this year.

I am fairly happy with my Apex.

However it seems not quite ready as an off-the-shelf consumer product.

Particularly setting up wireless connectivity with a Mac, and doing firmware updates on a Mac, took quite a bit of research and work, installing programs on the Mac etc. And there have been a few bugs to deal with along the way, but the bugs seem gone now that I am on the latest firmware.

If you are happy tinkering around with computers, setting up networks, etc. then by all means get the Apex.

I think it's recommended (I think I read this somewhere...) to ensure your PC/Mac and the Apex are all hard wired with a network cable to your switch/router when doing Firmware updates...

I put in a network jack near the tank. :biggrin:

there seams to be one reocurring theam here problems with a MAC need I say more :mrgreen:

Steve

I got things working with my Mac.

It just took several hours of work to get it done.

So it depends on how computer savvy you are and how much time you want to put into it.

I have moderate computer skills (ex-machine language programmer 25 years ago and haven't programmed anything since then), for those with up to date computer skills it should be easy, for those not good with computers the Apex setup can be a pain.

I think this holds true for all 3 of the options.

As happy as I am with my RKE, Im in the thinking mode for a controller for my tank up north (where I work) and am thinking about trying the Apex... that way, when I move out of both houses and do the big upgrade I'll have the controller that I like the best. We'll see... I may just pick up another RKE. The nice thing about trying both would be that I could also try both of the mobile apps, and have both running and know where each alarm is coming from with no thinking.

Oh, and BTW... looking at the prices online, the 2 seem to be within $10... so the price difference is negligable.

In my opinion the Osmolator is really only reliable for smaller systems because it will only run for 10 minutes max and then shuts down with no reset. Once the 10 minute cycle ends & the light goes red & you need to reset it manually by unplugging it. A royal pain for a larger system, I only use mine as a back up unit.

Couldn't say it any better myself...I think every controller out there has it's fanboys, and there is always going to be debate over them. Go take a look at all three controllers at work, their history, and their support...to me it's a no brainer. I think some companies set the standard in the controller world, and others scramble to follow suit, and play catch up a lot of the time. Also can't wait to see the new graphic interface that profilux is coming out with...looks good!

Not a lot of Profilux supporters. Yes I have to admit that they are expensive (I got mine used)
I'll admit I know nothing about other controllers, but to point out some of the high lights of the Profilux unit
1) simple to use PC interface
2) Online Support Profilux Support Forum that is top notch
3) Unending expandability
4) 3rd party manufactures of lights, pumps, anything really have been integrated to be driven by Profilux

J

I'm not sure that's accurate. I support that it's a great product, and support has a good reputation. I would buy one today, BUT....for the basics to manage what I need comes in around $1400 after taxes. The Apex unit, which has a good reputation and good support as well, comes in at under $800 for the same functionality I require.
So far the only function the Apex apparently can't do(within my reqs) is create lightning effects...not something I desire on my setup.
Now if the Profilux was even close in price, I would buy it for sure, based on reputation, functionality and curb appeal. But for a difference of 600 bucks, I have to look at the Apex to fill my needs.