changed my mind to no, works great creates nice flow but being in my living room whenever the tv is off or at night and in the morning all you can hear is the damb motor speeding up and down and it was making me a bit crazy.
so i broke down today and bought a tunze 6105 and a single controller, sorry doug couldnt justify another trip up thier.

some other updates in the last week or two, i did a 50% waterchange and slipped a strip of carpet under the one side to level it out better, i put a 1way valve on the return just for safety, when the power is off the sump gets kinda full and i just want to feel a bit safer.
ive dumped around 80lbs of rock in their. i gave up on making achways once i put a few of the biger chunks at the bottom they took up alot of space and im happy with how it looks,

im also thinking about changing the tek's for a aquaphoton 250w with 4xt5's having the lights cramed in the hood are a bit annoying so far.

i sent albert a message about the skimmer and he said it should be super quiet also and if i wanted he waould talk me through messin with it, but the thing has shut up all of a sudden or i just got used to it cause im not hearing the humm from the skimmer all week, i do have to make a stand out of glass for it still, the eggcrate one is no good, the skimmer has been pulling out some gunk every couple days and ive had it skimming kinda wet so its just a tea color for now but looks promising

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/djdirtyc/010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/djdirtyc/008.jpg

i guess redcoral gave me a free gift for buying rock today, thankfully he decided to sit at the front of the tank instead of in the rocks,he is now in my qt tank
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...rtyc/011-1.jpg

That's too bad the vortech isn't working out in that tank, It just gives such a nice clean look without any cords.

that was the whole point, kinda annoyed but the tank needs to be as silent as possible and with the tank where it is the vortech was not workin, the tunze isnt silent either but its better.

you know, every time I start swinging one way for a power head for the 50 gallon, a post like that pops up and then I want to go in a different direction....*sigh*

i have 2 on my other tank and never noticed a sound cause everything else covers it up and the motors are tucked behind the tank, on the cube it wasnt really tucked away in a corner or anything and the sound was driving me nuts, we arnt talking a huge noise but when its the only noise it was quite obvious, i was getting a real nice wave which is what i wanted but the splashing water in the overflow and the pump speeding up and stoping was a killer.
im not overly upset with having an extra vortec for the 300g though.
im really liking the flow coming from the tunze though too bad they dont have some cheeper controllable sizes, the ability to aim the power head is nice too

Just as yourself, with the vortechs on the basement tank they are not a huge issue for noise, but I can see in your living room right beside the couch the "whir" of the vortech especially on pulse mode could get very old fast.

I'm sure your groupers will enjoy the extra flow :)

no vortech for the bedroom tank then!

+1 with the groupers. Everytime I see one in the LFS I almost buy it. Then I think of the one in your tank.

update's this week,
i made a glass stand for the skimmer and finally got rid of the eggcrate one,the skimmer now sits level and is working great, the first 2 weeks or so i was kinda like what the heck good is this thing then all of a sudden it started pulling out a good 1/4-1/2 a cup per day of juice,its not super dark but i turned it down a bit to see how it does skimming a bit dryer

i bit the bullet and ordered a giesmann infinity fixture with 4xt5's and a 250w halide so hopefully ill get some higher par numbers with that, the numbers are high enough for almost anything i want but not as high as my other tank and thats what i want.

i put a leopard wrasse on hold for the tank but i gotta do something with the mantis in the qt before i can pick it up,ive herd they can be tricky to keep but ill find out soon i guess, tyhe tank is filled with pods and ive noticed 2or 3 flatworms so im a bit ****ed about that but maybe the wrasse will help before i have a real problem,
par numbers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...arreadings.jpg
thats all i can think of right this sec