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lorenz0 09-11-2008 03:53 AM

doug those zoa colonies are amazing

Delphinus 09-11-2008 05:27 AM

I give it about 6-8 weeks before that shelf will be covered in zoos.

Tank looks nice, Doug. What new light are you considering? (sorry if this is answered in an earlier post)

fishytime 09-11-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenz0 (Post 344793)
doug those zoa colonies are amazing

I will confess that these zoas are the nicest ones I have so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 344817)
I give it about 6-8 weeks before that shelf will be covered in zoos.

Tank looks nice, Doug. What new light are you considering? (sorry if this is answered in an earlier post)

6-8 weeks??? They must grow faster for you.
Im thinking the Maristar 2x250w MH(ushio 10000ks on the outside 20000k in the middle) with 4x39w HOT5s(fiji purples). Galaxy ballasts.

Doug.

Delphinus 09-11-2008 04:14 PM

That would be a nice light combo. :)

Maybe 6-8 weeks is a little "overstated". What I've found with zoanthids though is that they reach a point of "critical mass" where all of a sudden they ramp up the sprawling rate. It seemed like you had larger colonies (as opposed to the little 6-7 polyps each frags that I always seem to start at :lol: ) so I thought maybe you were close. Could be more like a couple months though. At some point though you'll notice it, I'm sure. I find that what happens is of course they all grow at different rates and of course the really nice ones grow the slowest, and they wind up getting swallowed and they disappear. So something to watch out for if you happen to have any favourites.

Here's an interesting observation though, speaking of frag sizes. About 4 months ago or so I picked up a rock covered in blue zoanthids. There must have been close to 100 polyps on it. They did really well for about a month, then started dwindling away. Not real noticeable at first but eventually I was thinking, hey, didn't this rock have more polyps? I found a little clump of 2 polyps floating loose and I glued those to a frag disk. Starting from a frag size of 2 polyps is a pretty meek starting point, but that little frag is now about 10 polyps or so. Meanwhile though, the colony rock is now just a rock. For some reason the colony crashed. I have no idea why - if it's a predation or disease or just generic failure-to-thrive. But the little frag is doing well. It's like they need to be "borne" in your tank to be super hardy - otherwise it's a crapshoot.

Of course this stuff only happens to the nice ones. My reddest zoos crashed earlier this summer too, I have yet to find more of the same variety. Got a couple others "close" to the same degree of bright red but of course it's never quite the same. 30 or so other varieties in this tank and they all spread like weeds (although most were very slow to start), so I don't really think it's a environmental issue, .. just some adapt better or worse than others...

fishytime 09-12-2008 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 344867)
That would be a nice light combo. :)

Maybe 6-8 weeks is a little "overstated". What I've found with zoanthids though is that they reach a point of "critical mass" where all of a sudden they ramp up the sprawling rate. It seemed like you had larger colonies (as opposed to the little 6-7 polyps each frags that I always seem to start at :lol: ) so I thought maybe you were close. Could be more like a couple months though. At some point though you'll notice it, I'm sure. I find that what happens is of course they all grow at different rates and of course the really nice ones grow the slowest, and they wind up getting swallowed and they disappear. So something to watch out for if you happen to have any favourites.

Here's an interesting observation though, speaking of frag sizes. About 4 months ago or so I picked up a rock covered in blue zoanthids. There must have been close to 100 polyps on it. They did really well for about a month, then started dwindling away. Not real noticeable at first but eventually I was thinking, hey, didn't this rock have more polyps? I found a little clump of 2 polyps floating loose and I glued those to a frag disk. Starting from a frag size of 2 polyps is a pretty meek starting point, but that little frag is now about 10 polyps or so. Meanwhile though, the colony rock is now just a rock. For some reason the colony crashed. I have no idea why - if it's a predation or disease or just generic failure-to-thrive. But the little frag is doing well. It's like they need to be "borne" in your tank to be super hardy - otherwise it's a crapshoot.

Of course this stuff only happens to the nice ones. My reddest zoos crashed earlier this summer too, I have yet to find more of the same variety. Got a couple others "close" to the same degree of bright red but of course it's never quite the same. 30 or so other varieties in this tank and they all spread like weeds (although most were very slow to start), so I don't really think it's a environmental issue, .. just some adapt better or worse than others...

Ive had the same things happen. Some seem to take off and do well, some seem to take off then wither away and one just didnt do well from the get go. Wonder if it is related in any way to RTN in sps?

I lost these RPEs slowly over about three months Didnt seem yo do well right from the start. Tried them everywhere in the tank.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP0559.jpg

These two both started off well, then quickly crashed.:cry:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP0556.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP0604.jpg


One thing I noticed with a couple of my colonies. For about a week or so they would look bad and I would think, aw crap not another one crashin, but then they would open back up and I could swear that the polyps multiplied. Ever see that? Or is it just my imagination?

Doug.

JDigital 09-12-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 344792)
Did you ever pick up those 2 Tangs from my buddy?

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fishytime 09-13-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 345049)
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I didnt end up with the scopas but the regal is in my qt right now. Wish I had more cash when I went to see him but my truck just swallowed $1400 so money was kinda tight. The regal looks to be in fantastic shape ,ate the same night I brought it home and didnt get ichy. Will probably give it another week in the qt. I know some may say that two weeks isnt a long enough qt period, but I think its hard on fish like tangs to be in a small tank for any length of time. It is showing the same signs that the kole tang did when it was in qt; very skittish and and nervous. At least the regal is eating, not like the kole.


Doug.

fishytime 09-18-2008 10:24 PM

I was going through the some 900 pics I have in my photo bucket account and thought I would do another round of growth pics.

orange digitata
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP0488.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP0926.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1360.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1447.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP2155.jpg
green digitata
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP0862.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o.../IMGP0925a.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1450.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1558.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP2039.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP2208.jpg

fishytime 09-18-2008 10:29 PM

and more

hydnophora rigata
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP0573.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1201.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1878.jpg
green cap
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1333.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP2133.jpg
tri colour acro
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1833.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP1842.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP2064.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/IMGP2065.jpg

fishytime 09-20-2008 04:14 PM

I decided that the ugly, power sucking, non adjustable seio power head had to go. So I replaced it with another koralia 4. So in the tank now are; 2- K4s @1200gph each, 1- K3 @850gph, 1- K2 @600gph and a conservative 700gph from the return. Thats a total of 4550gph for 43.5 Xs turnover. Hold on fishies!!!


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